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Nioh |OT2| You Can Be My Yojimbo Anytime
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Question, did I begin the DLC too early?
I'm level 116 and have started to get Green Gear at this point but I reached the first DLC boss and he either does 3/4 of my health or outright kills me with an attack that deals over 2k. Was I supposed to come at this much higher level?
I'm level 116 and have started to get Green Gear at this point but I reached the first DLC boss and he either does 3/4 of my health or outright kills me with an attack that deals over 2k. Was I supposed to come at this much higher level?
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Man, I beat WotW and dipped my toes in WotD, but just for kicks I tried the 2nd DLC in WotS and... I still die a lot (granted, I used the starting tonfa they gave us to grind the proficiency points to unlock the dojo mission for most of it, so I was a bit underpowered, but still), grab attacks from namahage still OHKO, and the duel boss right at the start (
) slaughtered me (I only won after coming back with more kodama so I'd get 5 elixirs instead of 3).
Either I'm rusty or this thing will be insanely hard on NG+ and later...
Date Masamune and his wondrous coloured dual swords of fucking annoyance
Either I'm rusty or this thing will be insanely hard on NG+ and later...
Phoenix944
Member
I finished the new DLC mission (well except for the twilight one) and I can't help but feel a bit disappointed :/ It's really short...
Is it the last DLC for this game?
Is it the last DLC for this game?
DreamedLint
Member
There's one more dlc, but it's in this same region in a different time of year.
My biggest issue with the tonfas is how redundant most of its skills are. The canceling mystic art is super fun, but it would be nice if the big lunging uppercut that promises to send enemies flying would actually launch enemies or move them very far at all. Juggles with those things would be super cool.
On a side note. It really is a bummer how some weapons get interesting mystic arts like the tonfas dragon stance canceling (or the spear's stance switching augmentation), and others like the single sword get a boring parameter boost.
My biggest issue with the tonfas is how redundant most of its skills are. The canceling mystic art is super fun, but it would be nice if the big lunging uppercut that promises to send enemies flying would actually launch enemies or move them very far at all. Juggles with those things would be super cool.
On a side note. It really is a bummer how some weapons get interesting mystic arts like the tonfas dragon stance canceling (or the spear's stance switching augmentation), and others like the single sword get a boring parameter boost.
GamingPheasant
Banned
Ugh, Date clan is kicking my ass in WotD. Did the second guy have to be the Yokai version instead of his redeemed version?
"The Sparrow Flies Again" is the only mission left, and my gear is still in the low 200s and +10s. I guess it's time to do some upgrading.
"The Sparrow Flies Again" is the only mission left, and my gear is still in the low 200s and +10s. I guess it's time to do some upgrading.
So in preparation for when I buy the DLC, I have been playing Nioh again.
Aside from the obvious fact it's a great game, I'd like a few of pieces of advice:
1) What's the best way to obtain high level gear? If it's more complex than just run through the game on NG+, is there a guide out there?
2) What level is recommended for the DLCs?
3) I love the sword too much. I just can't switch from it, every other weapon feels like crap in comparison! What weapon do you guys use?
Aside from the obvious fact it's a great game, I'd like a few of pieces of advice:
1) What's the best way to obtain high level gear? If it's more complex than just run through the game on NG+, is there a guide out there?
2) What level is recommended for the DLCs?
3) I love the sword too much. I just can't switch from it, every other weapon feels like crap in comparison! What weapon do you guys use?
Phoenix944
Member
What I did to farm gear is beating the revenants. If your level isn't too high comparing to the level of the revenants you kill, you can get a lot of stuff. So just go in the mission with the higher difficulty you can and farm there.
That said, you still have a lot of loots in NG+ (and beyond). So you should farm only if you feel that you're underpowered.
About the weapons, I used to go with dual sword. It's like the sword but better imo
Now I have a Kusarigama which I love, and a spear. I plan to go with the tonfas once I get a good one.
Tonfa damage is super low as well, thought urgency would be the the iai equivalent but it simply isn't
getting good ki damage is okay, but not great, with shove but yeah that uppercut kinda sucks. Long recovery time if you don't use the mystic art. It's so much more work with tonfa to kill regular enemies, you can do the same with single and dual swords in just a few hits. Maybe I have to use the tonfa gun, maybe that's where the damage is but I doubt it. They seriously need to buff it. Aside from extremely low damage, my main problem with tonfa is that demon dance breaks ki flux like the spear stance change move.
Also, is it just me or is this dlc far more jaggier in terms of graphics. Maybe I just forgot how Nioh looked.
Also, TN doubled down on the repeating assets in this dlc with date family fights being 2/3 of the sub missions which all take place in old sub-mission areas. Ugh, Nioh has its problems and this ain't helping.
I am actually quite disappointed with this dlc levels and bosses compared to the first.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Is there a list of Special Effects and what they do anywhere? Some of them are worded rather ambiguously.
demosthenes
Member
I've found hitting options helps explain things better.
Here is a community weapon and armour reforge table. Even though it's a little out of date as TN has added a lot of new effects, it still is useful.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16ATVIr-dSH-n10925y_KLLihv1ucjmYXSSSEg_WqmnU/htmlview
I agree, the skill and special effect descriptions are not just worded ambiguously there are very often straight up wrong and hopelessly mistranslated. For example there is a new effect called 'bonus after evasion attack (attack x2)' the tooltip description states that it grants the specified bonus when an enemy hits you with an evasion attack. This is not the case, it is after YOU hit an enemy with an evasion attack.
Some the worst and hopelessly confusing tooltip descriptions in the business. Hinders and actively hurts your understanding of skills instead of helping. Another one is 'parry disabled by guarding enemy'. Has nothing to do with a parry of course, it stops your attacks from bouncing off a blocking enemy, which is very useful.
demosthenes
Member
Didn't I just download 1.14 yesterday?
It's a quick bug fix. It removed the only powerlevelling thing in the game that I am ever bothered to do ;(
Well TN made leveling in WotW much slower than it used to be in WotD if you are level 300 or level 400. So the fastest way to power level was three souls over and over again but very boring.
I am level 400 and I just quickly speed ran four missions in region 1 of WotW and gained enough amrita to get halfway to level 401.
In 1.15 this power level method is removed along with other bug fixes.
Luckly I didn't download 1.15 in rest mode last night, so I turned off the internet on my PS4 just in case I want to power level. Probably wont but the option to have is good.
I am level 400 and I just quickly speed ran four missions in region 1 of WotW and gained enough amrita to get halfway to level 401.
In 1.15 this power level method is removed along with other bug fixes.
Luckly I didn't download 1.15 in rest mode last night, so I turned off the internet on my PS4 just in case I want to power level. Probably wont but the option to have is good.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Ah, I didn't know about that. Thank you.
Amazing. Thanks so much for this!
Yeah, I've fortunately avoided the whole forging business so far, but I only realised last night that I have no idea what any of the effects actually mean. This is a great help.
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
Member
So dont update if i wanna power level a bit on three souls on WotW? Thats the stage im on now anyway and i was hoping to power level a bit based what was said in the previous page of this thread. What do i have to do just beat the stage for a mission reward or is there some item that is easily farmable?
Yeah,
It says the update is ready for me so I can't close my game haha
nvm, can't go online without the update
Phoenix944
Member
You can delete the downloaded update, no?
Nope, can't. At least I dunno how. I am almost LV400 now anyway.
demosthenes
Member
Delete the install file of the game but don't delete saves? If you really wanted to.
Go to downloads, the patch file should be there, hit the Options button and select delete.
This 1.15 patch came out way too soon. Amrita gain should be higher than it currently is on wotw and patching those 3 missions is a real demotivater.
It wouldve been nice if the next patch did some major tonfa fixes. A lot of flashy, but useless moves, demon dance followups in low stance is bugged, and little reason to use other tonfas other than gunsticks because of the end of combo follow-ups.
It wouldve been nice if the next patch did some major tonfa fixes. A lot of flashy, but useless moves, demon dance followups in low stance is bugged, and little reason to use other tonfas other than gunsticks because of the end of combo follow-ups.
Yeah, really shows where their priorities lie. They just want to keep people mindlessly playing for as long as possible.
What's even worse is that I just did an old WoTW ghosts of sawayama amrita run w/full fanatic Amrita find setup gives roughly the same amount of Amrita as in WotD around 250-300 mil.
Lol what are they doing?!
I wouldn't mind doing sawayama, demon king or marobashi runs in WotW if they gave more Amrita.
The reason why people are doing three souls is entirely cos of this. It's incredibly boring yet people are essentially forced to. I don't even wanna level up anymore but seeing the Amrita are the same as WotD is silly.
And in terms of gold, Restless spirits gives 2mil in WotW now instead of the 1.5 mil in WotD. Oh wow how generous of them.
It's not, it's just stupid
Disappointed that they seemingly care less about tonfa being a viable weapon. They're so much fun but do pathetic damage and the demon dance into low stance doesn't work (which is kinda ok cos I wanna go straight into gun devastation anyway). But still should work anyway though.
Come on team ninja, I love your game but still...
100%TrophyMaster
Member
Of course they patch that WotW mission when I'm almost to the region lol
I'm level 284 and struggling so I was hoping to
get there and abuse that since I'm not seeming to level at all due to how much Amrita you need. Looks like I'm playing offline for awhile *sigh* so I can avoid the patch
I'm level 284 and struggling so I was hoping to
get there and abuse that since I'm not seeming to level at all due to how much Amrita you need. Looks like I'm playing offline for awhile *sigh* so I can avoid the patch
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
Member
My game says its in update 1.14 and psn says its currently up to date ?
The Update is still not live in NA I don't think. It is live in JPN and EU. You still have time to pull out your ethernet cable if you want to do that.
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
Member
Oh man i was thinking of the three angry gods mission and not three souls mission. I still got a ways to go.
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
Member
Just as long as you don't install it as well. I'll be doing some grinding tonight.
Emperor_Uriel
Member
Holundrian
Unconfirmed Member
Hope people complain enough and they adjust the Amrita numbers.
I think team Ninja has been very keen on following feedback so far/overall.
Would be a bummer if it stays unchanged cause catching up will be a pain.
I think team Ninja has been very keen on following feedback so far/overall.
Would be a bummer if it stays unchanged cause catching up will be a pain.
Isn't there 1 more DLC coming? Most likely they will make changes.
Pic?
Can someone help me access the dlc?
I have the season pass and completed the dlc1 area just fine. But this one for some reason keeps asking me to buy the dlc even though I already "bought" in the store and it checks installed...
Edir: Restarted PS4 and it worked...
I have the season pass and completed the dlc1 area just fine. But this one for some reason keeps asking me to buy the dlc even though I already "bought" in the store and it checks installed...
Am I missing something?
Edir: Restarted PS4 and it worked...
It's this one in the top right hand corner. Also the way of the demon mission rate should actually say way of the wise, yet another mistranslation among hundreds in the game.
The defiant honor tab actually has two way of the demon mission rates. One is at 100 and the other at 90, I suspect the 90 is the way of the wise one and that cos I'm still missing the twilight on the difficulty. So should be the same thing for dragon on the north, but that still doesn't solve the ????? marks.
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That mistranslation is all the more strange as it is correct on another tab:
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
Member
Man you guys were not kidding about that farming strategy. I can complete the level in under a min and then level up twice. Damn.
Emperor_Uriel
Member
The other thing is, I'm not sure what to level at this point.
I'm at 401 with the following stats:
Body- 99
Heart- 40
Stamina- 29
Strength- 17
Skill- 99
Dexterity- 99
Magic- 25
Spirit- 35
Stamina seems like the obvious choice, except that I use 3 pieces of Tatenashi gear which gives me a "Equipment Weight Damage Bonus A" that boosts my attack by a decent amount if I'm over 30% equip weight. I'd actively be making myself weaker attack-wise if I raised my Stamina.
Everything else is either soft-capped or useless.
I'm at 401 with the following stats:
Body- 99
Heart- 40
Stamina- 29
Strength- 17
Skill- 99
Dexterity- 99
Magic- 25
Spirit- 35
Stamina seems like the obvious choice, except that I use 3 pieces of Tatenashi gear which gives me a "Equipment Weight Damage Bonus A" that boosts my attack by a decent amount if I'm over 30% equip weight. I'd actively be making myself weaker attack-wise if I raised my Stamina.
Everything else is either soft-capped or useless.
100%TrophyMaster
Member
Thank you guys for the 1.15 heads up---I was able to disconnect my PS4 about 30 minutes before the update launched and I'm so glad I did. Finally made it to region 4 and gained 5 levels with my first run of the three souls mission. Plan to farm until I'm at least in the 400's level wise