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[gundamkyoukai]

Fallen it has. But it is still a juggernaut, nobody else comes close. This is a gen of multiplatforms, exclusives don't matter anymore.

Exclusives will always matter but they are just not as big as people think .
It's the big boys exclusives that help push consoles and the smaller ones that make the console catalog look better .
Also it always great the look for the next break out IP .

 

[Gotdatmoney]

Fallen it has. But it is still a juggernaut, nobody else comes close. This is a gen of multiplatforms, exclusives don't matter anymore.

It really is not a juggernaught any more. Its launch is a third of the previous game and half of super smash bros brawl. It launxhed to less sales than Titan Fall. 1 million for Halo is thoroughly mediocre. It probably will not end up the best selling exclusive of the gen in NA. At the currrent rate its going it may not even pass 3 million without bundling. (Maybe this one is out there but the game is massively underperforming, its going to sell less than WiiU titles)

 

[ethomaz]

I see a point or two reduction as pretty typical, but I think you have to look at the means and medians and not the top 10 games (which are like....almost all ports?).

MGS did almost the same (93 vs 94).
Bloodborne is the best rated From Software.
The Witcher 3 did amazing too.

I only focused in PS4 but Super Mario 3D World did 93 too.

Well I just see the review scale fine.

But half this list are ports. If you take them out the highest will be MGS V at 93.

At this point last gen we already had GTA IV and Mario Galaxy at 98, Bioshock at 96 and LBP at 95.

We don't have games on the scope/size or quality of GTAIV, Galaxy, Bioshock or LBP yet.

Like I said there are a noticeable drop in quality and size of the games (low content)... and this gen is being remarkable by tons of bugs too.

When a game have the quality/size of old games it gets great scores (BB, TW3, MGS, SM3DW).

 

[RexNovis]

Except Splatoon.

.

 

[allan-bh]

GOWU ~ 371
U ~ 259

Standalone Gears and Uncharted not so hot, I was expecting more.

 

[ethomaz]

Standalone Gears and Uncharted not so hot, I was expecting more.

It is hard to sell standalone when you have over 1m sold via bundles.

 

[RexNovis]

Standalone Gears and Uncharted not so hot, I was expecting more.

Not sure why anyone would expect remasters to do big numbers with so many colossal AAA games releasing this holiday season. They were both carried by their respective bundles.

 

[slavesnyder]

Not sure why anyone would expect remasters to do big numbers with so many colossal AAA games releasing this holiday season. They were both carried by their respective bundles.

It almost seems as if they were created for them.

 

[ethomaz]

About Uncharted vs Quantum Break I found something interesting...

Amazon 2016 Best Sellers

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2016/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar

#8 Uncharted

Quantum Break is out of the TOP100.

 

[Gotdatmoney]

It is hard to sell standalone when you have over 1m sold via bundles.

Even with bundles I dont see how those would even be considered bad numbers. They are still remasters at the end of the day. And I think they will have decent legs.

 

[RexNovis]

It almost seems as if they were created for them.

Intelligent design indeed.

 

[Yurikerr]

We don't have games on the scope/size or quality of GTAIV, Galaxy, Bioshock or LBP yet.

Like I said there are a noticeable drop in quality and size of the games (low content)... and this gen is being remarkable by tons of bugs too.

When a game have the quality/size of old games it gets great scores (BB, TW3, MGS, SM3DW).

I'm more in line with Kev that this gen the scores dropped a little. And to be sincere and don't rate GTA V and LBP nowhere near their MC scores. I don't agree that we had a drop in the quality and size of the games.

Maybe as i'm happier with this gen offerings until now, I consider this specific games scores overblown.

 

[Die Squirrel Die]

It is hard to sell standalone when you have over 1m sold via bundles.

Doesn't that only apply to people who don't already have a system? I know $299 was an attractive pricepoint, but enough that people will buy another system to play the game?

 

[ethomaz]

Doesn't that only apply to people who don't already have a system? I know $299 was an attractive pricepoint, but enough that people will buy another system to play the game?

I will talk most about the Uncharted Collection... it is a collection focused in new PS4 buyers that didn't have a PS3 last gen.

Most PS4 buyers that are ex-PS3 users didn't care about it.

The bundle main purpose is to make non-PS3 users buy a PS4 and get into the Uncharted series before Uncharted 4 launch... it was a genius move from Sony.

 

[benny_a]

Most PS4 buyers that are ex-PS3 users didn't care about it.

Because they know that Uncharted sucks while there are 70% of PS4 owners that don't know that yet.

Those sneaky bastards!

 

[zsynqx]

About Uncharted vs Quantum Break I found something interesting...

Amazon 2016 Best Sellers

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2016/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar

#8 Uncharted

Quantum Break is out of the TOP100.

For other upcoming games which have release dates

#8 PS4 Uncharted 4 (April 26, 2016)

#10 PS4 Division (March 8, 2016)

#37 PS4 Dark Souls (April 12, 2016)

#73 PS4 Ratchet and Clank (April 12, 2016)

#86 XB1 Division (March 8, 2016)

#88 Wii U Starfox (April 22, 2016)

As others said before, the Division may be slightly higher with the pre-order to access beta thing.

Edit:

#9 Wii U The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess HD (March 4, 2016)

#44 PS4 Gravity Rush Remastered (February 2,2016)

Thanks onQ123

 

[LifEndz]

About Uncharted vs Quantum Break I found something interesting...

Amazon 2016 Best Sellers

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2016/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar

#8 Uncharted

Quantum Break is out of the TOP100.

Read that whole "discussion" earlier. Can't believe anyone in their right mind would actually post something so silly.

 

[JaggedSac]

Locke is already dead.

Locke was never alive.

 

[LegendofDragoonLives]

I hope Dreams doesn't bomb as well, but I get the vibe that won't be a very big seller. Hope I'm wrong though

They need to show the game, a main character going through levels at a show. Then show youtube and twitch videos weekly creating things or levels. Their marketing has been very poor, but I disagree that it will do bad. They just need to get people on board, confusion is not something you want.

 

[slavesnyder]

They need to show the game, a main character going through levels at a show. Then show youtube and twitch videos weekly creating things or levels. Their marketing has been very poor, but I disagree that it will do bad. They just need to get people on board, confusion is not something you want.

Agree, from their marketing/communication it seems like this title is still years away.

 

[ethomaz]

Because they know that Uncharted sucks while there are 70% of PS4 owners that don't know that yet.

Those sneaky bastards!

I didn't say that... I love Uncharted and I won't buy the Collection because I already played it on PS3... that is what I said.

I'm all about Uncharted 4.

 

[DriftingSpirit]

I just read over the last few pages.

Isn't Ratchet and Clank a pretty big seller? I don't know how this will translate to PS4 but the series itself has sold a lot.

UC4 will be critically successful. I am just interested in seeing if it can match or surpass Bloodborne.

 

[benny_a]

I didn't say that... I love Uncharted and I won't buy the Collection because I already played it on PS3... that is what I said.

It's what I said.

Lighten up, people. This is the NPD thread, quality doesn't matter.

 

[NotMyPsn]

do software sales take into account digital ? I'm surprised by some xbox games. I mean, more battlefront sales but if you look at battlefront stats, the player base is half of the ps4.

 

[onQ123]

For other upcoming games which have release dates

#8 PS4 Uncharted 4 (April 26, 2016)

#10 PS4 Division (March 8, 2016)

#37 PS4 Dark Souls (April 12, 2016)

#73 PS4 Ratchet and Clank (April 12, 2016)

#86 XB1 Division (March 8, 2016)

#88 Wii U Starfox (April 22, 2016)

As others said before, the Division may be slightly higher with the pre-order to access beta thing.

#9 Wii U The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess HD (March 4, 2016)

#44 PS4 Gravity Rush Remastered (February 2,2016)

 

[gundamkyoukai]

I just read over the last few pages.

Isn't Ratchet and Clank a pretty big seller? I don't know how this will translate to PS4 but the series itself has sold a lot.

UC4 will be critically successful. I am just interested in seeing if it can match or surpass Bloodborne.

UC will past BB in the first week maybe the first day in US.
If we talking WW BB is no match what so ever .

do software sales take into account digital ? I'm surprised by some xbox games. I mean, more battlefront sales but if you look at battlefront stats, the player base is half of the ps4.

No we only get physical sales in this thread and they don't take in account bundles .
But we getting some info on that now .

 

[slavesnyder]

UC will past BB in the first week maybe the first day in US.
If we talking WW BB is no match what so ever .

I guess he talked about review scores.
Sales numbers are not in question.

 

[zsynqx]

#9 Wii U The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess HD (March 4, 2016)

Yer my bad. Accidentally missed Gravity Rush Remastered as well.

 

[DriftingSpirit]

UC will past BB in the first week maybe the first day in US.
If we talking WW BB is no match what so ever .

Agreed, but I was talking in terms of critical success. Whether UC4 will match or surpass a 92 meta.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

I guess he talked about review scores.
Sales numbers are not in question.

Yeah seems i read wrong .
Well BB at 92 IMO it could go either way .
This is ND last UC so i expect them to pull out all the stops .

 

[KillerMan91]

do software sales take into account digital ? I'm surprised by some xbox games. I mean, more battlefront sales but if you look at battlefront stats, the player base is half of the ps4.

With bundles PS4 version sold more not to mention that those Battlefront network stats are global. PS4 version is crushing Xbox One version outside of US and UK.

 

[tattooed_dwarf]

Hopefully MS ramps up the marketing of Quantum Break soon. It has been pretty quiet on that front.

 

[Mahonay]

Hopefully MS ramps up the marketing of Quantum Break soon. It has been pretty quiet on that front.

They need to market the shit out of that game with it's high production values. But yeah it's been pretty quiet.

 

[ethomaz]

They need to market the shit out of that game with it's high production values. But yeah it's been pretty quiet.

How MS marketed Alan Wake?

 

[LegendofDragoonLives]

Agreed, but I was talking in terms of critical success. Whether UC4 will match or surpass a 92 meta.

It will end up at 94-95 #believe Them pushing it back means they're not rushing anything. And that MP convinced me that mechanically, this is the tightest TPS ever made, above RE4, TLOU & GeOW.

 

[Mahonay]

How MS marketed Alan Wake?

Hah yeah well this definitely seems a bit more aimed at the mainstream audience than Alan Wake. Also that game went through development hell which did not help.

 

[Ricky_R]

How MS marketed Alan Wake?

Not sure, but QB has more mass market appeal so I expect them to take advantage of that.

 

[slavesnyder]

There is nothing in sight to distract MS marketing from Quantum Break at the moment (okay, except The Division), so it would be logical that they concentrate on QB.

 

[CosmicQueso]

Yo, you guys talking review scores? I got some stuff on that. Packaged games only, below.

Through September, haven't yet updated for Q4 but will soon.

- Fewer games this gen
- Higher scores are more frequent this gen than last

 

[Chobel]

About Uncharted vs Quantum Break I found something interesting...

Amazon 2016 Best Sellers

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2016/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar

#8 Uncharted

Quantum Break is out of the TOP100.

You don't know the exact rank of QB, do you? There's 5o/5o chance it's #o.

 

[Y2Kev]

Yo, you guys talking review scores? I got some stuff on that. Packaged games only, below.

Through September, haven't yet updated for Q4 but will soon.

- Fewer games this gen
- Higher scores are more frequent this gen than last

Does this adjust for last gen ports? There is a sample bias (only good last gen games get ported).

 

[slavesnyder]

- Fewer games this gen
- Higher scores are more frequent this gen than last

Thank you, that's interesting and goes against some theories I guess.

What's your diagnosis?

Higher risc for retail releases and therefore better selection and more care in development/concept? (dumb games going digital only)
Or, just slightly different, playing it safe and giving critics and the masses only what they want?

Does this adjust for last gen ports? There is a sample bias (only good last gen games get ported).

fair

 

[CosmicQueso]

Does this adjust for last gen ports? There is a sample bias (only good last gen games get ported).

Has more to do with the shovelware on last gen not getting funded and made this gen.

12 fewer games on Sony, 50 fewer games on MS this gen versus last. Of those 62 fewer games, 59 of those are at review scores 69 and under.

But no has not been adjusted for last gen ports, the last gen ports are included.

Higher risc for retail releases and therefore better selection and more care in development/concept? (dumb games going digital only)
Or, just slightly different, playing it safe and giving critics and the masses only what they want?

Publisher count has been cut in half since last gen. Many of these publishers that are now gone were chasing the quick and easy dollar with garbage. A good number of these folks have either gone away or moved to mobile in the time since.

 

[slavesnyder]

You don't know the exact rank of QB, do you? There's 5o/5o chance it's #o.

l0l

 

[ethomaz]

Yo, you guys talking review scores? I got some stuff on that. Packaged games only, below.

Through September, haven't yet updated for Q4 but will soon.

- Fewer games this gen
- Higher scores are more frequent this gen than last

Interesting.

I found people saying the review score this gen get lower was just because some games are getting lower scores but if your read the reviews you will see these game have a lot of flaws that put it below what you expected.

Edit - To be fair I did have the opinion the quality dropped this gen but your graphs shows the opposite

 

[The Mad Draklor]

About Uncharted vs Quantum Break I found something interesting...

Amazon 2016 Best Sellers

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2016/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar

#8 Uncharted

Quantum Break is out of the TOP100.

You should see the rankings between the PS4 and XB1 versions of FFXV and KHIII. It's extremely lopsided >_<

 

[ethomaz]

You should see the rankings between the PS4 and XB1 versions of FFXV and KHIII. It's extremely lopsided >_<

Well to be fair nobody expect FFXV or KHIII sell well on Xbone.
It will be a 80%:20% case in PS4 favor.

 

[HeWhoWalks]

Fallen it has. But it is still a juggernaut, nobody else comes close. This is a gen of multiplatforms, exclusives don't matter anymore.

"Fallen it has". - Yep. Agreed.

"Nobody comes close". - I'd re-think that.

"Exclusives don't matter anymore". - Negative. They matter very much, even in the "gen of multiplatforms." Otherwise, what would be the point of multiple machines?

 

[HeWhoWalks]

Yo, you guys talking review scores? I got some stuff on that.

- Fewer games this gen
- Higher scores are more frequent this gen than last

 

[CosmicQueso]

Edit - To be fair I did have the opinion the quality dropped this gen but your graphs shows the opposite

I should have Q4 aggregated by the end of the week and will post an update including the full data set in case people want to do their own thing picking and choosing titles.