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NPD Sales Results for October 2007
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BishopLamont
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.dmc said:
Wait for white PS3.
HocusPocus
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Hitler Stole My Potato said:
I'm not buying it. I'll rent it eventually, but my PS3 is a Blu-Ray player.
Sho_Nuff82
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If PAL sales are any indication, Call of Duty 4 will top the PS3 charts in November. For Sony, this is not necessarily a bad thing. They need a breakout 3rd party hit in the states. Of course, it only furthers the stereotype/trend that people who spend $400+ on consoles prmarily play FPS, racers, and sports games. With Resistance, Madden, Motorstorm, and COD4 being the most popular games, it's hard to argue.
I really hope Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, and Uncharted do well this holiday so HD action-adventure games and RPGs don't suffer in the West.
I really hope Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, and Uncharted do well this holiday so HD action-adventure games and RPGs don't suffer in the West.
titiklabingapat
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Just basing it on Amazon.com alone, Uncharted will bomb harder than Ratchet. Though I expect it to actually do better, it will probably still do under 150k.
Ratchet was already nearing the top 10 3-4 days before release day while Uncharted is stuck at 73. Of course, it could still do 200k and be stuck at that low a ranking because everything else might have surged. We're well into the holiday shopping season after all.
Ratchet was already nearing the top 10 3-4 days before release day while Uncharted is stuck at 73. Of course, it could still do 200k and be stuck at that low a ranking because everything else might have surged. We're well into the holiday shopping season after all.
purvispisgah
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Hitler Stole My Potato said:
This is why Manhunt 2 is banned in so many places.
Dai Kaiju
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MassiveAttack said:
I was kidding about the multiplayer. I'm guessing it involves taking pictures of animals judging by recent screens, but i'm sure there's more to it. When I say doomed to failure, I mean in terms of sales. I'm sure it's going to be a good game, hell maybe a great game. However, i'm going to call Viva Pinata syndrome on this one. It's going to be a hit with GAF/the gaming press, and a flop with everyone else.
I don't think Ratchet will bomb through the holiday season. It was advertised with the Oct.30th release date, it was shipped a week before that date (and "gamers" were the only one to know that).. that's why there's only 75K copies sold for October.
Uncharted will clearly bomb though if they don't rampage the media with ads.
Uncharted will clearly bomb though if they don't rampage the media with ads.
AnimeTheme
Member
Some market analysts expect Uncharted to sell around 280k this year (ie. Nov + Dec).
MisterHero
Super Member
Because the lesser demand especially compared to PS2 has forced Sony to make more aggressive decisions, like lowering the PS3's price. I think that the pricedrops have helped and/or WILL help some people.X26 said:
So YAY for the lack of success for $600 gaming hardware.
Dai Kaiju
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FlightOfHeaven said:
It's going to bomb. On the flipside, I think Mass Effect will bomb too. Publishers are being so fucking dumb this year. "Oh my! We have to get this game out in time for the holidays!". People with 360s and PS3s (for the most part) aren't little kids who ask Santa to bring them videogames for Christmas. They're adults who buy them for themselves, no matter what time of year it is.
They can't buy them all though. New IPs don't stand a chance against monster franchises. Hell, even big franchises don't. Look at Rachet and especially PGR4.
Why the hell would you release games like Strangehold, Timeshift, and Blacksite:Area 51 around the same time as freakin Halo 3, Orange Box, Call of Duty 4, and Guitar Hero 3? All of those new IPs could have done just fine if the publishers delayed them, used the time to make them GREAT instead of average, and released them during a game drought.
Contrary to my points, I could easily see little kids asking for rockband for christmas.
Frankfurter
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NDS: 13.6m
PSP: 8.9m
GBA: 36.1m (w/o October NPD)
PSP: 8.9m
GBA: 36.1m (w/o October NPD)
Apologies for the list wars, but....dmc said:
-Tom Clancy's Air Combat, EndWar, and Splinter Cell: Conviction
-Condemned 2
-Midnight Club: LA
-Borderlands
-Prototype
-Brutal Legend
-Fallout 3
-Dead Space
-Dead Island
-The Bourne Conspiracy
-Fracture
-Bionic Commando
-Race Driver One
-Saints Row 2
-Mirror's Edge
-Soul Calibur 4
-Silent Hill 5
-Rage
And there's probably a few others I've missed.
My point is that there have been a fair amount of game announcements for the future that don't have Wii versions. Wii game announcements are starting to creep up, but it's not like they're completely sacrificing all the 360/PS3 announcements.
Phantast2k
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"lonnng": in the US, yes probably. Overall more like "long".duk said:
Catchpenny
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Lair is a bad game, Heavenly Sword is an eight hour game, and Ratchet is a family friendly title on a machine priced for the hardcore.
Uncharted seems more suited to the current PS3 audience than any of those games, so I think it will outperform them. Won't do Resistance: FOM numbers, but it should do well enough.
Uncharted seems more suited to the current PS3 audience than any of those games, so I think it will outperform them. Won't do Resistance: FOM numbers, but it should do well enough.
Count Dookkake
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Phantast2k said:
Fixed.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Duck said:
Also
- Guilty Gear 2
- Last Remnant
- Wet
- Darksiders
- Soldier of Fortune 3 (announced and released in a 6 month span)
- America's Army (ditto)
- Sega's Viking game
unnannounced but coming
- Resistance 2
- Assassin's Creed 2
It's not that there hasn't been a big chunk of next-gen game announcements (Game Informer's monthly exclusive preview is invariably a 360/PC/PS3 game), it's just that they've been drowned out by the bigger stuff, and few outside of Fallout 3 have been anything close to playable.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I don't think first-party titles are really fair game. No shit the Wii isn't getting first-party titles from Sony and Microsoft.
dammitmattt
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Tobor said:
I wish I couild find my quotes about how any random title from Microsoft's lineup (probably Bioshock or Mass Effect) would outsell Ratchet and Uncharted combined.
And I really wish I could find my quote where I said that Halo 3 would outsell all PS3 software combined this fall. Oh well. Sometimes laziness overcomes being right.
EDIT: Why in the world are people expecting Mass Effect to bomb? And what exactly constitutes a bomb? KOTOR sold over a million while both Jade Empire and KOTOR2 sold much less. I expect Mass Effect to come close to the BioShock numbers (500k first month, 1 million+ lifetime) and at the very least, equal KOTOR's numbers. Is that a bomba? This is a new IP without the Star Wars license and it is likely to hit over a million in sales. Give me a break, people.
Ratchet is not and won't be a bomb. When holiday season is over I wouldn't be surprised to see it past 300k, and give it a year it'll be where resistance is at. That's pretty much the exact same selling pattern as previous R&C games btw, none of them had huge first month.
As for Uncharted probably in Nov + Dec will be between 200-300k, and like Ratchet it'll continue to sell in 2008.
As for Uncharted probably in Nov + Dec will be between 200-300k, and like Ratchet it'll continue to sell in 2008.
acklame said:
Unless it becomes part of a bundle (like Resistance and there were talks of this happening), I just don't see it. I think a large portion of the market for R&C won't have a PS3 until it becomes much cheaper. But I could be completely wrong ... who knows. Hopefully Uncharted will do well; it looks like it deserves it.
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Dai Kaiju said:
People thought Dead Rising was going to bomb. It didn't.
People thought Crackdown was going to bomb. It didn't.
People thought Bioshock was going to bomb. It didn't.
Mass Effect has success written all over it.
BishopLamont
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Mass Effect won't bomb.
Metalmurphy
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Agent Icebeezy said:
How could it bomb?
X26 said:
Bad reading comprehension or just ignoring it so you can troll? Wasn't the whole point of his argument that the price is where it is now because it didn't do very well? I really wanted a PS3 but I can't justify spending $600 or even $400 on a gaming machine, so the sooner these companies realize that those price points don't fly, the better it is for my gaming future.
What's the correlation between these titles you're intending to emphasize here? You seem to have just listed three 360 games that have done well and then expect us to leap to the conclusion that any fourth game you list will also do well. If you're trying to state every high-budget, well marketed game on 360 performs well that is easily demonstrated false. Is there any other link between these games I'm not seeing?Agent Icebeezy said:
BenjaminBirdie
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AnimeTheme said:
What where their Rachet predictions? (French sounding spelling)
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The Sphinx said:
Single player games that Microsoft has had a hand in pushing.
Depends how you define a bomb.
I think Mass Effect unfortunately will sell less than Assassins Creed (which in turn will sell less than CoD4, though rightfully so). And that is on 360 alone, not counting that AC is on two platforms. I just don't think the majority will get what its about. Unless there is some weird flood of awareness about the game, I bet its going to "bomb" in a lot of peoples eyes, all depending on what your expectations are.
I think Mass Effect unfortunately will sell less than Assassins Creed (which in turn will sell less than CoD4, though rightfully so). And that is on 360 alone, not counting that AC is on two platforms. I just don't think the majority will get what its about. Unless there is some weird flood of awareness about the game, I bet its going to "bomb" in a lot of peoples eyes, all depending on what your expectations are.
Well, yeah, Mario Galaxy should definately top the charts... but so far the pre-order numbers and such for Mass Effect that has been shown, does not point to it getting even remotely that high, so I still think it will sell less than all those games, except maybe CoD4 PS3.knitoe said:
I wouldnt be surprised if GH gets a high spot also, depending a bit on how SKUs are combined.
Agent Icebeezy said:
Crackdown DID bomb, Halo3 Beta sold VERY well though
Bioshock is barely at a million right? That means they might be getting close to breaking even, in which case its not a bomb.
Mass Effect will bomb because it isnt KOTOR3. Bioware games typically sell poorly to all but the most devoted Bioware fans. Kotor was the exception to that.
Dead rising did 1.2 million, which is a success given that they expected less than 500k. Fun game too, but flawed.
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Cruzader said:
It sold 1.5 million. Only 750k beta players reported