CreatureX3
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Official February 2008 NPD Results - "Last Gen" > "Next Gen" - Industry Gone Wild.
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charlequin
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Mrbob said:
This is definitely true. DMC4 reversed a downward-trending series, even; it's absolutely another huge success for Capcom, and just the latest evidence that Capcom is one of the most together developers for approaching the treacherous waters of the current console market.
BishopLamont
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Absolutely, the mainstream has yet to embrace it fully and even now they've just begun to.George Claw M.D. said:
Ethelred: You underestimate the longevity on Nintendo's current first party offering to drive hardware sales. Like you say time will tell who's right.
Nintendo shifted focus of their teams to Wii, but that doesn't mean that they aren't still making DS games. Fire Emblem DS comes to mind, and they have a history of announcing a bunch of brand new games at E3. Dragon Quest will be a big pusher throughout 2008 in Japan, and the third Professor Layton is to come.
If you look at what's announced, the DS might as well be discontinued after DQIX, but handheld games have a relatively short turnaround.
It is a matter of faith that the games will continue to come versus knowing, though.
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Why does this NPD thread have flavors of Media-Create in it? :lol
If you look at what's announced, the DS might as well be discontinued after DQIX, but handheld games have a relatively short turnaround.
It is a matter of faith that the games will continue to come versus knowing, though.
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Why does this NPD thread have flavors of Media-Create in it? :lol
BishopLamont
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Ethelred showed up.donny2112 said:
charlequin
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BishopLamont said:
I really need to clarify here. Let's assume the claim that the DS' software is being phased out by all its major developers is true. Is your argument that, where PS2 looks all set to get a good 2-3 years of life out of simply riding out its success after most or all its software has trailed off, the DS' software is so compelling that it'll be able to get 5-6 years -- as long as its lifespan with software being released -- so that it can last as long as the PS2?
The idea that the software might not actually taper off that strongly is definitely arguable (I'm not so sure it will actually disappear yet myself) but I can't really see how anyone could believe that the DS will have a lifespan as long as the PS2's if its flow of software is cut off as much as two years earlier.
Square-Enix has at least four ports and DQIX coming. Level-5 has the Soccer RPG and Professor Layton 3. Nintendo has Pokemon 3 and Fire Emblem. I'm sure Capcom will have another Megaman Star Force this fall. Konami is coming out with another Castlevania.
And as stated, handhelds have a short development turnaround.
If support was cut off now, you're correct in that it couldn't last like the PS2. It could still pass up the PS2 in total hardware with a shorter lifespan, but that's beside the point.
However, I really don't think publishers will be letting those DSs sit there unused, if they can help it.
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Oh, yeah. We just had announced Valkyrie Profile and Disgaea DS, so new announcements are still being made, as well.
And as stated, handhelds have a short development turnaround.
If support was cut off now, you're correct in that it couldn't last like the PS2. It could still pass up the PS2 in total hardware with a shorter lifespan, but that's beside the point.
However, I really don't think publishers will be letting those DSs sit there unused, if they can help it.
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Oh, yeah. We just had announced Valkyrie Profile and Disgaea DS, so new announcements are still being made, as well.
Strong DS, PS2, and Wii sales show that a large number of consumers still dont give a fuck about graphics or online features. Of course it is no coincidence that they are the cheapest consoles...only hardcore gamers are willing to pay $$$$$ to game? Or maybe its that most people are less willing to buy any the more expensive consoles more than once (or both together. A PS3 + 360 purchase drops you almost a G).
Tyrone Slothrop
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i want to know what's up with the ps2. jesus. i know there's millions of late adopters who want to buy junior a console on the cheap, but damn
BishopLamont
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I'm not saying the software lineup right now will drive sales for the next 4-6 years, I'm saying it's enough for the near future, and there's plenty more software still to come, DS games don't take that long to be announced and released compared to consoles. There's plenty of Japanese games still to be localized and released in the US and EU. DS has just begun to see Japanese sellout sales (~600k/month is 150k/week). Let's not forget November/December 2007 where it was in shortage. I can't believe anyone thinks support for the DS is going to cut short any time soon. Does anyone here not think Nintendo already has NSMB/BT3 made just waiting to be released when it's needed?charlequin said:
Choke on the Magic
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LTTP
Ps2 is still immortal? Unreal!
Ps2 is still immortal? Unreal!
Looking at the Wipeout sales number (10k) and seeing that thread where it showed the amount of Wipeout downloads (35k) from just one torrent site, it's really a sad situation.
Hell, I've never even played Wipeout before, yet judging from videos of the game, I can tell that it deserves far better than 10k sales.
Hell, I've never even played Wipeout before, yet judging from videos of the game, I can tell that it deserves far better than 10k sales.
My impression has been that people see it as 'next-gen', just in a different way than the 360 and the PS3. It basically gets to compete with them using its different (but equally enticing) feature set and have the advantage of its pricing.Jokeropia said:
Yes, there is some pretty significant product differentiation, but among the casual Halo & Madden masses, I think the perception could be described by Wii
S360::Burnout:Forza. Then imagine Burnout was $40 and Forza was $70.TheRipDizz said:
Which is why I've said 'For a handheld'. Handhelds are known to have always had low attach rates, especially in the US. An attach rate of over 6 is a big accomplishment. Did the GBA ever had an attach rate as high as this? Would be interesting to know, for comparison's sake.
DubloSeven
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Is that a 2 girls 1 cup reaction?WinFonda said:
VultureDude
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Loudninja said:
I remember Nintendo saying that they were VERY disapointed with how the last Advance Wars sold and that that was the reason for the series redesign. What do sales of 50k mean now? will the franchise be put on hold? eliminated altogether?
VultureDude
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Shanks said:
I don't know if we're allowed to say (I remember the number since it was from way back when I first started paying attention to the old threads), but I'd say Nintendo wouldn't be impressed.
Insane Metal
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Didn´t see it posted, so... I made it myself:
BishopLamont
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Wow 22 Million for Wii already? Shit, seems like just yesterday that the Wii just beat the 360 WW, truely stunning.Insane Metal said:Didn´t see it posted, so... I made it myself:
FieryBalrog
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Microsoft might want to cut the price unless they're really fixated on 3rd place.
supermackem
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FieryBalrog said:
Why because sony has outsold them for two months in a row on the back off hddvd dieing and a hardware shortage and by a few thousand units give over man.:lol
vanguardian1
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BishopLamont said:
What's ironic is that the extra year for the 360 is the only thing keeping the Wii from 50% market share. :lol
King_Slender
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FYI, concerning Elite availability, I walked into my local Meijer yesterday and they had 2 Elites, no PS3s and not Wiis.
Shanks said:
I don't think we'll get into trouble for this, as it was before the crackdown on NPD numbers, but..
August '05 - 44,293
September '05 - 55,730
October '05 - 17,746
DOR has done better, but Dual Strike was in the time when the great DS software just was not selling very well (Same with Kirby Paintbrush). The fact that the DS has blown the fuck up should have made this sell a whole lot more.
BishopLamont
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I doubt userbase size matters with niche titles such as AW.Rlan said:
andthebeatgoeson
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Did MS release how many total units it sold this month? If not, then I guess I can start believing in Stumpapow when he said Nintendo sold more software. Well, in combination that MS has shifted their battles to revenue. Wow, it's only a matter of time until 3rd parties start to shift their focus. It's taking too long. I'm sure that idea won't filter thru until after Christmas 2008. Maybe we might have a big 3rd party christmas 2008 title on the Wii.
RE 5 WII bewiive.
Max Payne 3ii Bewiive.
RE 5 WII bewiive.
Max Payne 3ii Bewiive.
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
What's so fricken funny? I'm still holding out for a GTA4 wii but at last, my dreams are dying.
I'll go start up the countdown website.
I'll go start up the countdown website.
solid2snake
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allright, so we can say that Nintendo is the marketleader again. MS and Sony am cry.
Rlan said:
sonycowboy said at the time of the crackdown that we weren't allowed to post older numbers, even if they were already posted at GAF, unless it was from an official or news source. Just FYI, for future reference.
solid2snake said:
I ... didn't realize they had stopped being the market leader.
DeaconKnowledge
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solid2snake said:
Uh, when did they stop?
Norml said:
PS3 barely beat out the X360 even after a $200 price reduction to get within $50 and somewhat shortage of X360. If Microsoft drop the price from $50-100 and increasing price difference to $100-150, won't help much? The problem with Microsoft is they waited too long. Could have done major damage if it was done last year.
Insane Metal
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Quoted for new page.Insane Metal said:Didn´t see it posted, so... I made it myself:
Wii sales are absolutely insane :lol