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[Sosokrates]

Think you underestimate how popular COD is to non-GAF lol

All I ever deal with in terms of general public is FIFA and COD players

If cod ain't on PS5 the casuals will just buy an xbox. You can get a refurbished seriesS now for £200, perfect for screaming cod kids.

 

[Punished Miku]

jimbo putting his dick on the table

I don't see it. He's basically just confirmed everything Phil already said. Only difference is he's bitching and calling it "inadequate." That's literally all that's happened. MS isn't lying to anyone in the middle of a large acquisition reviewed by governments around the world. People here just can't read.

 

[Salty Popsicle]

If Phil Spencer is willing to lie about this, I wonder if he’s willing to lie about the long-term plan for Gamepass subscription costs.

Everyone understands that GamePass will not remain $15/month forever. All Microsoft has to do is prove that any price increase is justified by the amount of games/content that is offered. I think buying Activision is a big step in that.

 

[R6Rider]

I already know what you look like. Nobody is fooled.

 

[BigbyTheSheriff]

Microsoft are taking games away from gamers. To date. Sony have not done that.

 

[Salty Popsicle]

Because cutting off their largest consumer base dramatically limits the budget for the next franchise installment. It's such a simple calculus I can't believe you even asked that question.

Your calculus would only work if it wasn't Microsoft funding the project. If anything, Microsoft may increase the funding once they get a hold of COD.

 

[DonJimbo]

Jimbo Monkey Jimbo Monkey Monkey Jimbo Monkey

 

[Kagey K]

Witness the power of Jimbo.

I already know what you look like. Nobody is fooled.

 

[anthony2690]

Xbox had "high quality" final fantasy games for 14 years, then Sony paid to make FF7 Remake exclusive to playstation.

Xbox also had Spiderman games for 16 years till again Sony paid to keep them only on their platform.

Xbox also had high quality street fighter titles for 12 years and again you paid to keep it from Xbox.

I could probably go on and on, but it just comes across as a bit silly.

It kinda goes both ways Mr Ryan, you're happy to take from others, but cry when it happens to you.

I don't think COD is all that important or as big as it use to be either, as destiny 2, apex legends, R6 Siege all have more players than any mainline cod game currently.

& I think Sony could make their own title to rival it.

 

[Negotiator101]

Because cutting off their largest consumer base dramatically limits the budget for the next franchise installment. It's such a simple calculus I can't believe you even asked that question.

They'll be owned by Microsoft money ain't gonna be an issue. Also Microsoft will just let them do what they've been doing just like Bethesda. It will also attract PS over to Xbox or PC COD is bigger than the platforms its on.

 

[marjo]

Beggars can't be choosers.

To paraphrase the great Khan Noonien Singh:
"Jim is in a position to demand... nothing".

 

[Jigga117]

Shots fired

I’m sorry but how is this some shots fired on a contradicting stance. I mean are we really acting like the same tactics by Sony wasn’t done with third party companies to lock games and delay DLC From other platforms but MS is buying the company and he is whining about why won’t you keep your games on our console? I mean can we go ahead and get an official release of God of War on the Series S/X?

 

[00Magnum Gaming]

Marvel went to Xbox first and they turned it down so Phil holds the L on Spider-Man.

I know the history. Your missing the point. Just like Cod its a game that was everywhere and a good seller now only on PS. An exclusivity that benefits Sony to MS detriment, no different.

 

[R6Rider]

-

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Says the guy who is preventing mainline Final Fantasy games from going to Xbox.

Not comparable in the slightest

 

[geary]

what Jim is big mad over is "Last week, Xbox revealed that it had "provided a signed agreement to Sony to guarantee Call of Duty on PlayStation, with feature and content parity, for at least several more years" beyond Sony's existing contract with Activision. Xbox said this offer "goes well beyond typical gaming industry agreements."

Several = more than two but not many. That's the definition, and 3 more years additional years after current contract is in that definition.

 

[ManaByte]

Not comparable in the slightest

How so? Now Final Fantasy isn't a major franchise?

 

[adamsapple]

Microsoft are taking games away from gamers. To date. Sony have not done that.

Please tell me this was a troll post and you didn't say that seriously.

 

[Knightime_X]

I don't care about fair, it's a silly comparison.

Doesn't matter.
Sony threw a punch and MS replied with a spinning pile driver.

 

[Forsythia]

Yeah, Jim can go fuck off with his (timed, for god knows how long) exclusive deals with every publisher out there.

 

[vj27]

What is Jim giving Phil in exchange for keeping COD on their competing system for three extra years beyond the prior agreement? What has Jim given in return for keeping Minecraft on the platform? What has Jim given back for Phil honoring the exclusivity agreements in place with studios they acquired? Corporations break contracts all the time but Phil has fulfilled every one and intends to not just fulfill this current contract but allow Jim to continue having COD for three years beyond that.

Seems like charity from Microsoft and Jimbo seems to think he's entitled to it.

Oh my god this is spitting facts. Literally the first thing that came to mind. Like damn does Jimbo just want Xbox to produce all their games while PlayStation goes around money hatting games to stay off Xbox/gamepass, while MS has to leave all of their most popular IP’s on Sony’s console??? An we can’t even get fucking final fantasy… but deathloop an cod an etc contracts have to be beyond honored… bruh

 

[RoboFu]

Phil's PR to the media: "It's about giving all gamers a choice."

Phil Behind the scenes:

he is giving you a choice of xbox or windows.

 

[Represent.]

I’m sorry but how is this some shots fired on a contradicting stance. I mean are we really acting like the same tactics by Sony wasn’t done with third party companies to lock games and delay DLC From other platforms but MS is buying the company and he is whining about why won’t you keep your games on our console? I mean can we go ahead and get an official release of God of War on the Series S/X?

I dont understand how people cant differentiate between buying a whole ass publisher and buying a few timed. third party exclusives.

 

[II_JumPeR_I]

Jim can also fuck off with the heavy timed exclusive deals with SquareEnix and their jrpgs

 

[DJ12]

Jim should be grateful they get 3 additional years with COD beyond the agreed upon terms that have been signed. I doubt Sony would have offered the same grace period had they been the ones to own the IP.

You mean like bungie who will stay multiplatform including xbox literally announced the same time as the purchase with no Spencer grade pr bullshit play on words?

 

[Darsxx82]

What is Jim giving Phil in exchange for keeping COD on their competing system for three extra years beyond the prior agreement? What has Jim given in return for keeping Minecraft on the platform? What has Jim given back for Phil honoring the exclusivity agreements in place with studios they acquired? Corporations break contracts all the time but Phil has fulfilled every one and intends to not just fulfill this current contract but allow Jim to continue having COD for three years beyond that.

Seems like charity from Microsoft and Jimbo seems to think he's entitled to it.

Exactly

Jim is complaining when Phil does more for Playstation users than he would, AND DOES, for Xbox users whom he, using its dominant position in the console market, hasn't stopped pestering for 8 years with AAA Third franchises already well established on XBOX as well as COD on PS.

What's more, it's funny to see that he complains about the possibility that COD on Xbox becomes better than on PlayStation when that's what he has done these 8 years paying for extras, DLCs and even more optimized versions on PS consoles than on XBOX.

It's called hypocrisy and arrogance.

 

[Bojanglez]

I never understood the opposing arguments. If I buy a home that had tenants living in it, I am entitled to evict them or keep them, but that is my choice. Why should Microsoft be forced to continue give concessions to Sony after purchasing Activision?

Well it depends where you own the home. Some jurisdictions give rights to the renter allowing them to remain in the property and even dictate what you can charge them in rent.

 

[tmlDan]

I don't see it. He's basically just confirmed everything Phil already said. Only difference is he's bitching and calling it "inadequate." That's literally all that's happened. MS isn't lying to anyone in the middle of a large acquisition reviewed by governments around the world. People here just can't read.

how would you read this?

 

[Spyxos]

This is exactly why anti-competition laws are in place. With this information coming to light, the U.K. are increasingly unlikely to approve the deal.

I don't understand anything about acquisitions. Does it really look so bad? What happens if Uk is against it? Is Xbox brand then banned in Uk only?

 

[jorgejjvr]

Once again, Phil Spencer caught speaking out both sides of his mouth. His rhetoric sounds very consumer friendly, but he says different things behind closed doors.
Microsoft are taking games away from gamers. To date. Sony have not done that. Those who cheer on the big Microsoft acquisitions are blind fanboys who don’t really care about gaming as a whole.
If Sony start doing that shit too, they’ll get the same crap from me as wellZ

Lol Sony is the main platform that takes away games from gamers

 

[00Magnum Gaming]

Lil Reese is the Grim reaper. I think he's immortal or something

Forgot his name been so long. Hes lucky I thought he was gonna die when they boomed his ass stealing that whip. He got them angels.

 

[Jigga117]

Because cutting off their largest consumer base dramatically limits the budget for the next franchise installment. It's such a simple calculus I can't believe you even asked that question.

You do know MS is a 2 trillion dollar company and COD is available on mobile, consoles and PC. It not being on PS anything is NOT an issue. Come on brah

 

[01011001]

this whole ordeal still makes no sense as there have been way bigger deals that went down without issue

 

[arkhamguy123]

Will Xbox be able to produce the same quality CoD without the PS gamer market and 100% reliance on GamePass?

Well hypothetically it's the same COD teams and Microsoft has infinite money to fund the cinematic campaigns and high end graphics.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

How so? Now Final Fantasy isn't a major franchise?

Cod is connected to the PS brand just as Final Fantasy. Now look at revenue numbers from both franchises and you'll be amazed at how these aren't comparable.

 

[SlimySnake]

Doesn't matter.
Sony threw a punch and MS replied with a spinning pile driver.

Yep. I couldnt believe Jimbo was going out there snatching up timed exclusives thinking he could outbit a $3 TRILLION company with his mere $100 billion parent company.

Jimbo went out and got Deathloop, and Phil was like Bitch, I just bought the airline.

Shouldve spent that timed exclusive money on giving internal studios more men so they could release games faster.

 

[Captain Toad]

Xbox had "high quality" final fantasy games for 14 years, then Sony paid to make FF7 Remake exclusive to playstation.

Xbox had Final Fantasy XIII and XV launch on their platform. That's it.

 

[Punished Miku]

Not comparable in the slightest

 

[Topher]

GAF when CEOs speak.....

 

[ryzen1]

"It’s not our intent to pull communities away from that platform and we remained committed to that."

 

[NickFire]

I dont understand how people cant differentiate between buying a whole ass publisher and buying a few timed. third party exclusives.

Reasonable people understand the differences just fine. People who feel things moving when MS buys a publisher cannot though.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

this whole ordeal still makes no sense as there have been way bigger deals that went down without issue

This is literally the biggest gaming deal that ever happened.

 

[vj27]

It's different how, exactly?

Because that’s what Sony can afford to do an any other form of business strategic partnerships and acquisitions aren’t fair cuz Sony can’t do it too…

At least that’s what I understand from the hypocrisy, hard to tell.

 

[Little Chicken]

Jim sounds like a little bitch tbh

 

[Kiraly]

Wow, what a hilarious temper tantrum from Jim Ryan.

 

[ManaByte]

Cod is connected to the PS brand just as Final Fantasy. Now look at revenue numbers from both franchises and you'll be amazed at how these aren't comparable.

COD was connected more with the 360 than the PS3. COD2 was a launch title on the 360 (and it never came to the PS3).

 

[Mr Moose]

Why are people "B-but Sony has timed exclusives!" in here? Shut the fuck up already, MS has timed exclusives as well.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

If you think having 2 final fantasy games exclusive is the same as buying a huge ass publisher that has the biggest yearly game out there you can apply that gif tou you lmao

 

[Fredrik]

Microsoft are taking games away from gamers. To date. Sony have not done that.

They’re both doing it. And Sony has bought several multiplat studios which has only released games on Playstation afterwards and they pay for exclusivity all the time and even have multi-year deals without any solid info when or if they’ll end, they’re literally the industry experts at this, Jim even managed to take away MS 1st party studio games lol

 

[Salty Popsicle]

You mean like bungie who will stay multiplatform including xbox literally announced the same time as the purchase with no Spencer grade pr bullshit play on words?

Bungie will continue to independently publish all their games moving forward, and Sony agreed to this. Sony literally has no power over where Bungie wants to put their games on.