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[BoxFresh123]

This was their big "one last thing" during E3 2021. Wild.

 

[chromhound]

I forgot about this game....

 

[Calverz]

Well I enjoyed my 3 playthroughs.

 

[semiconscious]

just looked it up, &, at least here in canada, redfall is still full price on the xbox store. amazing...

 

[Danjin44]

“GAAS games are the future”

 

[MagiusNecros]

“GAAS games are the future”

Theoretically. But Corporate Greed and lack of vision guarantees that will never come to pass. Only really rare examples like Deep Rock Galactic have good systems in place.

 

[Fake]

“GAAS games are the future”

They forgot to mention the Terminator movie future.

 

[Krathoon]

There is enough to enjoy about the game. I just get the impression that it is a janky experience.

It reminds me of some old videogames back when devlopment teams were small.

 

[SidViscous]

Hopefully there is an easy way to turn the refund into PlayStation store credit, sure as hell isn’t anything on Xbox worth spending it on.

 

[Dutchy]

man, sennin is gonna be pissed. being half of their playerbase and all. too bad they never secured that goty like he expected they would.

 

[Spukc]

Never even got to add DLC, that is rough.

Like all games did in the past

 

[Kagoshima_Luke]

Daily reminder to not buy Season Passes, Premium upgrades, etc ahead of a game's release.

 

[Krathoon]

The whole refund thing is going to be a pain in the ass. They might as well just release the two characters.

Apparently, they think that most people will not go through the process to get the refund.

It is also a credit refund. So, I bet they will still have your money.

 

[BigLee74]

The game wasn't even as bad as people pretend it was.

This game launched rough. It looked so broken with texture loading issues galore, and was a poor 30fps.

When they fixed that and brought out the 60fps mode, it immediately looked and felt infinitely better - but everyone had already moved on. If it had released like that initially, it might have been a different story.

Poor management and decisions on this one.

 

[JackMcGunns]

My toilet overflowed when trying to flush Redfall.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Redfall will be our most supported game post-launch.
-Phil Spencer

The pattern I am seeing with him is not so much the lies its the inability to see a great game

 

[Operations66]

This game launched rough. It looked so broken with texture loading issues galore, and was a poor 30fps.

When they fixed that and brought out the 60fps mode, it immediately looked and felt infinitely better - but everyone had already moved on. If it had released like that initially, it might have been a different story.

Poor management and decisions on this one.

I played it after the patches. Thought it was pretty good, not a classic.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Arkane Austin taking the fall for poor management.

 

[Topher]

The pattern I am seeing with him is not so much the lies its the inability to see a great game

Yeah? I see more lies than anything else. Or maybe not lies, but just spewing bullshit. He talks so much and makes everyone think he is such a gotdang savior, but he's just full of shit.

Everything about Xbox has gotten worse with him in charge.

 

[Krathoon]

I like how Phil just flat out lied. He is turning into Peter Molyneux.

 

[Punished Miku]

Arkane Austin taking the fall for poor management.

For sure. But even AA's best games didn't sell that well. There's a reason the Lyon guy was talking about the immersive sim curse.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Yeah? I see more lies than anything else. Or maybe not lies, but just spewing bullshit. He talks so much and makes everyone think he is such a gotdang savior, but he's just full of shit.

Everything about Xbox has gotten worse with him in charge.

I don't think he sets out to lie so much as he is just not a very good visionary

 

[Topher]

I don't think he sets out to lie so much as he is just not a very good visionary

That works too. Lack of vision and talking shit to compensate. Bottom line, I think, is he is out of his depth. He needs to move on to something else, imo.

 

[Evil Calvin]

Didn't they 'cease' a year ago? Weren't they supposed to patch a 60fps mode a loooong time ago? Or did it happen?

 

[LostDonkey]

Lellertonhemtemptations!!

 

[BigLee74]

Didn't they 'cease' a year ago? Weren't they supposed to patch a 60fps mode a loooong time ago? Or did it happen?

60fps mode was released a long time ago. Game immediately felt better, but no one was left to play it. I gave it 10 minutes and thought ‘nah, can’t be arsed with this now, too many other good games on my backlog’.

First impressions generally matter. Cyberpunk is about the only game that managed to turn around a disastrous start.

 

[alphachino]

Godfall
Redfall
Babylon’s Fall
Atlas Fallen

Lesson learned: don’t use the word “fall” in your game’s title.

hey hey, Towerfall was a beast of a game... your lesson doesn't hold up

 

[Saber]

You're forgetting that gaas hero dota shooter that released around overwatch's release.

Are you talking about that game with ugly and nauseating character designs called Edge something? That game last so little that nobody cared.

 

[Gp1]

Godfall
Redfall
Babylon’s Fall
Atlas Fallen

Lesson learned: don’t use the word “fall” in your game’s title.

Titanfall...

Just saying

 

[Pejo]

This is probably the first time I've seen that the Arrested Development reference actually tracks.

This game has never ever looked good to me, way back at the first preview where the characters wouldn't stop cracking wise the entire time. At least they're offering refunds, but damn what a fuckup.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

I'm a "player" who tried the game on GP for about an hour, so pay me!

 

[sendit]

"“We do mock reviews for every game that we launch and this is double digits lower than where we thought we would be with this game,” Spencer told Kinda Funny. “That’s one of the disappointing things, we would never strive to launch a game that we thought was going to review in the low 60s.” Redfall has since fallen even lower, currently sitting on a Metacritic score of 59." - Phil Spencer

 

[MagiusNecros]

This game has never ever looked good to me, way back at the first preview where the characters wouldn't stop cracking wise the entire time.

It was a poor man's Borderlands. But the game oozed atmosphere. I enjoyed the 7 hours I put into it. The deep discount when it went on sale also helped. $20 was reasonable. $70 was not.

 

[Chuck Berry]

Real curious to see how long it takes for refunds to actually go out and be received by the consumers

 

[Metnut]

Not sure if it’s worse to be acquired by Microsoft or EA at this point.

 

[semiconscious]

Real curious to see how long it takes for refunds to actually go out and be received by the consumers

dhyb...

Spoiler

don't hold your breath...

 

[Chuck Berry]

dhyb...

Spoiler

don't hold your breath...

Ha yeah exactly lol

 

[Draugoth]

Update from IGN:

• Arkane Austin was planning a big update to release later this month, the layoffs came as a shock to everyone
• The May update would have included the ability to play the game offline
• The two new heroes that were promised in the Hero Pass were planned to be launched on Halloween this year

https://www.ign.com/articles/arkane-austin-redfall-update-closure-xbox

 

[Pejo]

It was a poor man's Borderlands. But the game oozed atmosphere. I enjoyed the 7 hours I put into it. The deep discount when it went on sale also helped. $20 was reasonable. $70 was not.

That's totally fair, but to me the atmosphere they displayed was constantly at odds with the "never gonna take a bit of this seriously" jokester vibes of the playable characters in this situation. Leaving the visual style and atmosphere alone but then having the player characters treat it genuinely instead would have been a huge improvement, at least tonally. It also would have tempted me to give it a try, regardless of review scores. I don't have Gamepass so for me the barrier of entry was a bit higher than those that already subscribed.

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

Update from IGN:

• Arkane Austin was planning a big update to release later this month, the layoffs came as a shock to everyone
• The May update would have included the ability to play the game offline
• The two new heroes that were promised in the Hero Pass were planned to be launched on Halloween this year

https://www.ign.com/articles/arkane-austin-redfall-update-closure-xbox

It was all about to change! We were going to fix it all next week! We just needed one more week!

 

[Punished Miku]

The May update would have included the ability to play the game offline

This pisses me off.

 

[StereoVsn]

I don't like to see people lose their jobs. But the message is clear here studios. Stop chasing games as a service. Stop trying to milk your audience like cattle. Stop having bloated team sizes. Start making good games.

Tango crew was fairly small. They produced several interesting and fairly good games. They got cut.

 

[bender]

Godfall
Redfall
Babylon’s Fall
Atlas Fallen

Lesson learned: don’t use the word “fall” in your game’s title.

 

[MagiusNecros]

That's totally fair, but to me the atmosphere they displayed was constantly at odds with the "never gonna take a bit of this seriously" jokester vibes of the playable characters in this situation. Leaving the visual style and atmosphere alone but then having the player characters treat it genuinely instead would have been a huge improvement, at least tonally. It also would have tempted me to give it a try, regardless of review scores. I don't have Gamepass so for me the barrier of entry was a bit higher than those that already subscribed.

Oh for sure. I thought of maybe revisiting it if the DLC characters dropped since all the characters you play as are just unappealing to me with IMO rather ugly designs but now I see no reason to reinstall. I just wish we had a good Vampire game to play.

 

[Gambit2483]

Don't use "Fall" in the latter half of your title..?

 

[bender]

Don't use "Fall" in the latter half of your title..?

The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall

The GIF still works. You could say...

 

[MarkMe2525]

Are you talking about that game with ugly and nauseating character designs called Edge something? That game last so little that nobody cared.

I just remembered, I was referring to Battleborn. I was sort of interested in this game and it just tanked so hard that you could pick it up for a tenner 2 months after release.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Update from IGN:

• Arkane Austin was planning a big update to release later this month, the layoffs came as a shock to everyone
• The May update would have included the ability to play the game offline
• The two new heroes that were promised in the Hero Pass were planned to be launched on Halloween this year

https://www.ign.com/articles/arkane-austin-redfall-update-closure-xbox

The two extra Heroes were to launch about a year and a half after launch? lol