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Resident Evil 4 Remake: Separate Ways ($10) has almost the same amount of content that Resident Evil 3 Remake at launch did (retail $60)
drotahorror
Member
I loved RE4 Remake but is this dlc just retreads of the main game?
Draugoth
Gold Member
Basically all parts that were in the original but weren't in the remake are in the DLC (Gondola, U-3 etc)
The Cockatrice
Gold Member
5 hours for a 10 dollar DLC? For my current GOTY? Guess I'm in, but not right now, maybe when Ill replay the game.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Capcom should apologize for Resident Evil 3 remake and do it again. It's such a weird black sheep in their lineup the past few years.
It's extra content that was originally in the PS2 version.
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killatopak
Member
This makes so fucking sad. RE3 is like my favorite game ever and it gets such a shitty treatment from Capcom. I was so hyped for the leaked stuff like a different kind of Live Selection and stuff and while I enjoyed it, I was let down by my expectations.
So much cut content and for what? To develop a shitty coop online game that wasn’t even available on release? Fuck…
So much cut content and for what? To develop a shitty coop online game that wasn’t even available on release? Fuck…
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
In terms of locations? Yes but with a decent amount of variety in locations and verticality that you could not do with Leon.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Madflavor
Member
RE3R has fans. It actually has fans. It’s so beyond my comprehension that anyone can be satisfied with what we got in RE3R. I’m not saying there’s nothing to like in that game, but it was SO obvious even in 2020 that we got a half assed, underbaked product. There was no excuse for that game to be $60 with the amount of content it offered. Jill got done so dirty.
Speaking of getting done dirty, Nemesis was terrible. You’d think after RE2R that Mr X would serve as a prototype for the crazy good stalker mechanic that was coming our way with RE3R and Nemesis. Instead it was such a fucking downgrade. He looked ridiculous with his stretched out head, the game immediately blew its load by revealing him in the first five minutes, and he was completely scripted.
Now we have Separate Ways which offers as much content as RE3R, plays better, gives more options for gunplay, and has just as much enemy variety, for $50 less. Fuck RE3R, that game deserves all the hate it gets.
Speaking of getting done dirty, Nemesis was terrible. You’d think after RE2R that Mr X would serve as a prototype for the crazy good stalker mechanic that was coming our way with RE3R and Nemesis. Instead it was such a fucking downgrade. He looked ridiculous with his stretched out head, the game immediately blew its load by revealing him in the first five minutes, and he was completely scripted.
Now we have Separate Ways which offers as much content as RE3R, plays better, gives more options for gunplay, and has just as much enemy variety, for $50 less. Fuck RE3R, that game deserves all the hate it gets.
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pleaseinsertdisctwo
Member
I recently replayed RE3 and I was soooo sad when it was over. It’s just way too short with too little exploration.
it's my most replayed modern RE because of that, I loved it.
Sleepwalker
Member
Why should it have been free DLC?
NeverYouMind
Member
Go through deja vu with nails on chalk board discount Ada for five hours or play the best remake in the franchise. I know what what I would rather be doing with my time.
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Reizo Ryuu
Gold Member
This is a complete disingenuous take, 99% of the content in the DLC already exists in the main game, there aren't even new character models because ada and wesker already existed, heck even the Gondola exist in the main game, you can see it it's just broken. The only new bit in here is the Laser room section and the U3 boss, but the second half of that fight sucks major dick.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I need the kids to get to bed so I can get on this. Can't wait!
Davey Cakes
Member
I actually enjoyed RE3 REmake but that’s mostly because I love the aesthetics and the presentation of the city. Most of the sequences featuring Nemesis were kind of miserable if I’m being honest.
After the huge disappointment of the clock tower plaza section, at least you get the hospital which is easily the best sequence in the game. It just makes you wish the entire game was like that.
I got RE3R for 20 bucks and it was totally worth it. Separate Ways sounds like a steal.
After the huge disappointment of the clock tower plaza section, at least you get the hospital which is easily the best sequence in the game. It just makes you wish the entire game was like that.
I got RE3R for 20 bucks and it was totally worth it. Separate Ways sounds like a steal.
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Soodanim
Gold Member
The "Director's Cut" talks were one of those rare times when I paid attention to the rumours and hoped they were true. RE3 deserved so much more than what it got, and we won't be seeing another attempt at it any other way. A Director's Cut wouldn't have fixed everything, but it would have been a start.
In an ideal world Capcom would "Lords of the Fallen" it and just make a new one in a few years, but that's never going to happen. They're headed straight for the "Wesker lives" timeline and nothing is stopping them.
Bonus rant:
Capcom never fucking lets us use the bonus characters in the main games. I want to go through the main campaign of 4R as Mercenaries characters and I would pay money to do so. I wanted to do it in OG 4, and I want to do it even more now. Just auto skip cutscenes and keep Leon's voice in, it's not a big deal. I want to parry-counter my way through the main game for fuck's sake.
Beer Baelly
Al Pachinko, Konami President
Capcom learns from their mistakes - Everydaybeast
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
So, RE4 in both cases then? Gotcha.
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killatopak
Member
There’s actually a mod that let’s you play as Ada in the RE4 main campaign. I don’t know about the others but I would assume so since Ada was only playable on Mercenaries before the DLC. The mod was available long before Separate Ways so I think there’s a high chance it’s possible for others assuming you can play it on your PC.
Reizo Ryuu
Gold Member
No she wasn't, only luis, krauser and hunk were unlockable characters.
killatopak
Member
Sorry, probably got my Remake and Original mixed up. Yeah I just realized Ada and Wesker was an update along with Separate ways.
brenobnfm
Member
Meanwhile i still come back to Resident Evil 3, which i don't do nearly as often to RE 2 despite considering a better game. Resident Evil 3 remake is a blast to play and one of the most replayable games of all times, y'all clowns deserve these bloated 300h open world shitfest.
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NeverYouMind
Member
You can currently mod that out in the main game. I don't even know if people will be assed to fix it in the DLC.
Most Resident Evil games were great on their own and I still prefer the originals to the remakes. Resident Evil 3 Remake is the only case where it is undeniably superior. Nemesis sucked in the original and the way the game was stretched out with fetch quests going from one side of the city to the other was pure bullshit. They even salvaged its weak plot.
drotahorror
Member
Aite, I bought it. Fuck off already
Sleepwalker
Member
If on PC, there's a trainer for that
Resident Evil 4 Remake Ultimate Trainer
Play Ada from Separate Ways & Mercenaries characters instead of Leon in campaign/Separate Ways, Mayhem included!
www.nexusmods.com
Werewolf Jones
Gold Member
Capcom just wanted the nostalgia and hype money. RE3 doesn't match up to RE2 or RE4 from the fans even though the original game is still top 3 best in the series.
brenobnfm
Member
Your dumbass argument doesn't even make sense, yeah they wanted to milk nostalgia while doing the least faithful remake of them all.
killatopak
Member
Not only is that wrong, it’s blatantly ignoring that the remake has the same fetch quest only it fucking sucks since there’s no replay value. No alternate encounters, no random item placements, no random enemy spawn, no live selection and not only are puzzles super fucking simple, there’s also less of them. Nemesis dies to a single grenade, ALL encounters are scripted and his voice and his NOSE sucks ass!
The only thing I would say the remake was better at was the dodge system, item and achievement store, various difficulties and bonus weapons.
OG RE has supremely better costumes and most importantly has MERCENARIES.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
I think it‘s pretty obvious that during the dev of RE3 Remake something went awry and they ended up just quickly piecing together something in the end.
brenobnfm
Member
there’s no replay value. No alternate encounters, no random item placements, no random enemy spawn, no live selection and not only are puzzles super fucking simple, there’s also less of them. Nemesis dies to a single grenade, ALL encounters are scripted
None of this corroborates with your point of it having no replay value. It has replay value because the pacing is stellar. The pacing is stellar because Nemesis is not a buffed version of Mr X., and Mr. X was already annoying. Having Nemesis stalking you all game would wreck the pace of the game. It's also a lie all encounters are scripted. Fans of the OG need to accept the game is not trying to be the OG with modern graphics and stop equating faithfulness with flaws, because it's not trying to be faithful, it's a different game with different goals.
Sleepwalker
Member
Probably meant to be a DLC to 2 until some exec saw dollar signs and decided to make it a full $60 game.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
I doubt that. Remember the first rumours saying it’s going to be more open. Perhaps they tried that, then realized it didn’t work and patched some parts of it together as the game we got.
killatopak
Member
Yes it corroborates because you assume the original‘s pacing isn’t good which is just false. The difference is the original has MORE. Of course it would look terrible for Nemesis to chase you ALL game because remake’s map is tiny. The larger map of the original actually made you have a breather from Nemesis encounters. Oh but it is scripted. You will in fact encounter Nemesis the same number of times at the exact same location during the exact same situation. Original branching paths and larger maps actually allows you not only escape encounters but miss encounters entirely for that specific playthrough. Some even allow you to change the ending.
Maybe stop marketing it as a remake then. I can accept changes and I can even point out how much better the changes are. The problem is, most of them aren’t so might as well stay faithful if it isn’t even better. Pretty cool that RE1, RE2, and RE4 which mostly stayed faithful to their originals got better scores and better audience reception than RE3 that introduced so many changes that aren’t necessarily better.
March Climber
Member
GAF > Internet > GAF ?
I swear I read this take on NeoGAF first before anywhere else.
I swear I read this take on NeoGAF first before anywhere else.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Resident evil is interesting I think their are examples where folks just play the original versions they have.
Werewolf Jones
Gold Member
Game straight up lacks content. I'm not arguing with someone who actually likes things taken away from them and being casualized. You've got bad taste.
NeverYouMind
Member
Not only is that wrong, it’s blatantly ignoring that the remake has the same fetch quest only it fucking sucks since there’s no replay value. No alternate encounters, no random item placements, no random enemy spawn, no live selection and not only are puzzles super fucking simple, there’s also less of them. Nemesis dies to a single grenade, ALL encounters are scripted and his voice and his NOSE sucks ass!
The only thing I would say the remake was better at was the dodge system, item and achievement store, various difficulties and bonus weapons.
OG RE has supremely better costumes and most importantly has MERCENARIES.
Quality over quantity and size. Even the original Nemesis face is only a download away...
https://www.nexusmods.com/residentevil32020/mods/233
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
My experience with the earlier years of Resident Evil series was basically Resident Evil 2 on N64 to Resident Evil Remake to Resident Evil Zero to Resident Evil 4, all on GameCube. So I have never had any attachment to Resident Evil 3: Nemesis.
So, with that in mind, Resident Evil 3 remake is a great game. I can understand how fans are upset if they spent $60 on it or if some of their favorite moments from the original are missing, but I thoroughly enjoyed the remake.
It's not the best overall of the remakes, but it's absolutely the best-paced.
So, with that in mind, Resident Evil 3 remake is a great game. I can understand how fans are upset if they spent $60 on it or if some of their favorite moments from the original are missing, but I thoroughly enjoyed the remake.
It's not the best overall of the remakes, but it's absolutely the best-paced.
killatopak
Member
Thanks for the link by the way. Nothing personal. The more people who enjoy RE games the happier I am. I just get heated sometimes since I just love RE.
Quality over quantity and size. Even the original Nemesis face is only a download away...
https://www.nexusmods.com/residentevil32020/mods/233
I respect people who enjoyed the remake and recognize that people might enjoy it more as it functions as a tighter experience due to the linearity. I just don’t think the original sucks at pacing comparatively speaking. I mean I personally know the original can be finished even faster than the remake and that’s despite the larger setting considering the amount of times I’ve played both. Just look at the speed run records for both games.
One thing I can give you about RE3R pacing is that it’s actually a lot more accessible and easier to go through on the first couple of runs than the original. To put it in a perspective of a speedrunner, it’s a lot easier to optimize RE3R runs because there’s fewer random elements which breaks pacing.
LavitzSlambert
Member
I'm still waiting for those bargain basement $10 new copies of RE3R. This is a good price for the DLC, but I will probably still wait out the Gold edition unless RE4R drops to like $20 on BF the way Village did.
Black_Mamba
Member
I like RE3R and it doesn't make sense to me that someone can love RE2R and hate RE3R at the same time. They're basically the same game. So RE3R is shorter than RE2R, but by how much? 10%? 20%?
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Tell me. I never finished RE3 remake. I do have it on pc and ps5 for some reason.
I love re2remake though. One of best games ever.
But re3 got so little hype, I kinda skipped it. Should I ?
SenkiDala
Member
That's pathetic, wrong, and absurd. I've beaten the DLC yesterday and it is way shorter and has WAY less content than RE3...