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[Rumor] Killzone VR hinted at by PSVR Without Parole
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Skyfox
Member
I had a PSVR with my PS4 Pro. I sold it when PS5 came out thinking I'd replace it with a PSVR2.
It's been so long that I'd given up on the idea of getting back into VR because I didn't miss it that much.
Killzone VR would definitely be of interest to me though. That or Alyx would convince me.
It's been so long that I'd given up on the idea of getting back into VR because I didn't miss it that much.
Killzone VR would definitely be of interest to me though. That or Alyx would convince me.
nominedomine
Banned
An AAA Pavlov-like game will print money on PSVR2.
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Benniewise de Clown
Banned
Killzone on PSVR2?
I'm in.
I'm in.
ChorizoPicozo
Banned
no brainer. Gaze aiming could become the next benchmark in FPS > mouse and Keyboard.
SilentUser
Member
Oh wow, would love a PSVR2 Killzone title.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Gaze aiming makes zero sense. VR is all about immersion and making it feel like you're there, and that includes your physical motions having realistic results in the game. So you aim a gun by actually moving your hands as if you're aiming it, not just by looking at stuff. That has no connection to how anything works in the real world.
ChorizoPicozo
Banned
VR is not the real world.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
VR is intended to FEEL like an alternate, real world though. Again, it's all about immersion, and what you're suggesting wouldn't be immersive. It kinda sounds like you haven't experienced VR, you don't seem to really understand it.
StateofMajora
Banned
Please be optional and please make it look and feel like kz2.
ChorizoPicozo
Banned
VR is not the real world. There are tons of 'tricks' Developers need to figure out/develop in order to achieve a successful synergy between the player and technology/medium.
Gaze aming is one of those 'trick' that COULD (as I said early) be a game changer.
You cannot discount (gaze aming) as nonsensical (makes zero sense). Let the actual developers figure out that one.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
It would only work if there's an in-universe explanation, like some futuristic weapon that actually works like that (i.e. one you don't actually hold in your hands). But honestly it sounds like it would be pretty boring and unengaging. Just look at something and hit it every time? Actually aiming in VR is much more immersive and rewarding. I turned off the laser sight when playing RE4VR because it made hitting enemies a matter of just pointing and clicking. Extremely fast and accurate, but not very engaging. Actually having to aim the gun like you would in real life is much more fun.
ChorizoPicozo
Banned
No.
This is not about videogame design/lore.
This is about technology that could improve HCI (Human Computer Interaction)
Without research no one would know.
Bruh. Bad take.
Three Things.
1. Theoretically. Gaze Aming. COULD made you substantially better by default.
a. Some average gamers will kill to be better at competitive gaming FPS.Huge appeal.
b. A.I. will take into consideration this factor = more engaging/challenging and 'fun'. (Which is subjective)
C. Level/Game design will change.
But again, it is going to depend of how successful this technology is implemented. Could change the current paradigm of game design.
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
Hope it's true.
Also VR should revitalize the rail shooter genre. House of the Dead V VR
Also VR should revitalize the rail shooter genre. House of the Dead V VR
RoadHazard
Gold Member
It would have to change DRAMATICALLY. Gazing at something is so much faster and easier than actually aiming at it, so the difficulty would have to be upped massively for there to be any challenge. Maybe you're right that many online FPS players just want to kill as many opponents as quickly and easily as possible (that's why aimbots exist I suppose), but to me that sounds incredibly unengaging. I want a fair and rewarding challenge.
But again, I feel like you don't quite understand what makes VR work. It's NOT just about HCI, it's about immersion and tricking your brain into feeling like you're really there and actually interacting with the world.
RPSleon
Member
Nah id have much more fun with the motion controllers to actually aim a weapon and use my head movement to look around independent to the weapon
ChorizoPicozo
Banned
That's for game developers to figure out.
Narrow minded.
They're tons of things that make something engaging (taking specifically about aiming in FPS).
Gaze aiming could dramatically improve immersion and enhance game design/interactivity in so many levels.
ChorizoPicozo
Banned
Another Narrow-minded.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
I'm not saying using gaze detection wouldn't work for certain interactions, it could be a great new form of input in some cases. But not for aiming a gun. And I say that as someone with a few years of experience aiming guns (and other things) in VR.
But we'll just have to agree to disagree.
ChorizoPicozo
Banned
That's why I use the word, COULD. We need to wait and see how devs implement this technology. I mean, the potential is there.
RPSleon
Member
No need for that. Its not being narrow minded. I know exactly what i want from vr, and its not what you are talking about. I wouldnt buy it if games worked that way.
ChorizoPicozo
Banned
Dontkidyourselfjimmy
Member
Just give us a killzone 2 remake including multiplayer.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Cod and Killzone rumors in 2 days...sounds like that state of play could be a good one!
RPSleon
Member
Youre so condescending.
The difference here is that i know what it is you are describing, its not some unheard of thing that i cant yet comprehend. Its a simple idea youre talking about.
I wanna move my arms and head in the same way as the character im controlling. Thats the appeal of vr to me, that doesnt make me blind to other possibilities.
ChorizoPicozo
Banned
I have been condescending because is so ironic/hypocrite to embrace VR and a the same time reject something like Gaze Aming. VR (especially now) is the medium for experimentation in so many ways. If you are an advocate for VR you should be and advocate for experimentation.
Gaze Aming ≠ 'less movements' It could bring more subtle mechanics in an organic manner, and even enhance the relation between your movement and the character movement.
Romulus
Member
The cell processor did nothing. Guerilla games could have made a similarly priced pc-like console sing. Since it was newer, a ps3 with x86, more Ram and a slightly better gpu/cpu than 360 would have been miles better than a pos cell processor with a gimped gpu and RAM.
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Oddvintagechap
Member
I was hoping Playstation killed Killzone.
They need to start a different FPS franchise.
They need to start a different FPS franchise.
Droxcy
Member
Honestly this needs to happen VR should be an addon.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
Fuck it, I'm in.
SLB1904
Banned
this, smoke weed and try Tetris effect, then we talk
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Captain Toad
Banned
Have you tried it? It actually works well and feels great. A combination of motion controls and head tracking aiming would be perfect.
rofif
Banned
Kz3 was legit good
RoadHazard
Gold Member
I'm not saying it wouldn't work, I'm saying it wouldn't be immersive the way actually aiming a gun using your hands is.
I'm sure you could make a cool experience using gaze aiming, but not in a game where you use more or less traditional weapons like KZ. There I would want to actually aim the guns using my hands.
Shmunter
Member
Obviously the weapons will be detached from gaze and controlled with motion.
The only issue, what of my PSVR gun controller? - will they do a new version or just rely on the bundled hand trackers?
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Yeah, aiming two-handed guns with two detached VR controllers isn't OPTIMAL (although it works well enough and your brain overcomes the slight disconnect). They could probably make a gun shell that you could slide he controllers into, or even a gun controller that's independently tracked (although that would be more expensive).
Apocryphon
Member
They should give it the same kind of movement as Contractors.
No slow mo shit either. I literally just want Killzone 2 in VR with the Contractors movement.
Do it Sony.
No slow mo shit either. I literally just want Killzone 2 in VR with the Contractors movement.
Do it Sony.
Benniewise de Clown
Banned
The PSVR gun-peripheral works outstanding.
You don't even need to slide anything in, as it already has two sticks and all buttons.
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
A superman game with gaze tracking
RoadHazard
Gold Member
A superman game with gaze tracking
Sure, the laser eyes thing would make sense to do like that.