zaitsu
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whats your poin't ? It looks bad
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Ryan McCaffrey on Unlocked: There is nothing here (XSX launch lineup) that says I need to spend $500 dollars on XSX. Launch games
whats your poin't ? It looks bad
zaitsu
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One of them just posted Halo 3 as proof of xbox games looking better than this xD XBOTS ARE DUMB BITCHES'Remaster'.
Some of you guys really are so very, very sad.
GHG
Member
You get what you pay for I guess.
If they did a full on next gen remake of Halo 3 with all the bells and whistles I'm sure some people would be singing from a different hymn sheet.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
I know DS looks way better because it's a true remaster. But it's still an old game with gameplay mechanics that hasn't aged well.
But you also pay 80 euro for an old game with new graphics.
Look. I don't want to derail the thread further. I've made my statement and personally I don't want to waste the next ten pages on my opinion.
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Deleted member 775630
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I'm an Xbox fan, they get rinsed all the time on here.
FrankWza
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They are. Launches are traditionally not great, but still. Especially if you include launch window.
Jaguar Victory
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Cyberpunk, NBA2K21, Yakuza, Gears Tactics. These 4 easily take me through Q1 2021. Please someone give me your pre-order 
Ass of Can Whooping
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Fixed it for you
Papacheeks
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There are people in here literally downplaying Demons souls selling power. Like...what?
FranXico
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Tetris Effect only has a multiplayer mode as timed exclusive. That game has been out for years as well.
Ass of Can Whooping
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Gave it just to be nice even if it is a reach lmao
Night.Ninja
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He's right, normally at a console launch your getting new games to show off your new console.
Microsoft are basically saying you get a new graphics card and the third party devs will look after you for now.
Microsoft are basically saying you get a new graphics card and the third party devs will look after you for now.
YeulEmeralda
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The idea is that Microsoft's acquisitions will pay off- only this time for real lol. Patience!
It will mostly be mainstream stuff made for (American) normals. PlayStation at least has Japan to make some interesting games.
It will mostly be mainstream stuff made for (American) normals. PlayStation at least has Japan to make some interesting games.
VincentMatts
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Ok and? Nvidia just said the same thing with their 3080 and 3090 cards. Didnt see anyone complain about that.
Arkam
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I haven’t had much interest in getting an XSX honestly, so the lack of games is surprisingly.... but not impactful... to me. However two of my die hard Xbox friends have both said essentially what the IGN said. “Very little to justify a launch purchase”. and that when games show up they will start considering an upgrade.
Ass of Can Whooping
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PC gamers are cucks to Nvidia so yeah you don't see many complaints towards them
Jaguar Victory
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American normals...
Japan is one of the most reserved countries on earth. I guess D&D and western nerd type shit is normal now. Cyberpunk is the most interesting have we've had in a while.
THE DUCK
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Why do people in this thread keep saying things like God of War (who knows when) and ratchet and clank (launch "window" doesn't count for crap) are launch titles? If your going to argue that ps5 has great launch titles, it would be better served with games that actually launch with the system, eh?
AllBizness
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"Our real competitors Amazon and Google dont have any AAA exclusives so why should we?" -Phil Spencer
Piku_Ringo
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Never thought I'd see McCaffrey shit on the brand he champions for.
Codes 208
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I feel like they could’ve done more, agreed. With infinite’s delay it would’ve been nice to get something in its stead. Though it’s nice theyve confirmed they’re giving MCC the 120fps treatment but that alone isn’t enough to sell me.
I have to agree with him. Damn you Bonnie Ross. No Infinite at launch hurts. But nobody could have prevented Covid and chances are it would have been rushed anyway.
Game pass still makes a purchase today worth it. At least they've shed the "no games" image. That Zenimax purchase is the best thing that could have happened to xbox after the Halo delay/reveal fiasco. Great exclusives and in quantity are just a matter of when and not if.
Game pass still makes a purchase today worth it. At least they've shed the "no games" image. That Zenimax purchase is the best thing that could have happened to xbox after the Halo delay/reveal fiasco. Great exclusives and in quantity are just a matter of when and not if.
PharaoTutAnchAmun
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But you cant dismiss that the PS5 lineup is way better.....
NoMoChokeSJ
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I feel this way with both consoles. Not being a Dark Souls fan and having a PS4 Pro/PC, neither console screams buy to me.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
isn't gears tactics at launch?
Blond
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Hasn’t aged well? As opposed to an FPS who’s mechanics haven’t changed in 20 years in the slightest and have arguably gotten worse with each entry? I say this as someone who pretty much only has X1X for Halo collection online which I stick with Halo 2 lol
bitbydeath
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Nonsense. All the exclusives are system sellers and you having to go back to PS2 launch lineup proves how it is “one of” the best.
Now if we were to extend it to launch year then it trumps everything, even the PS2.
ethomaz
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Yeap let's compare with PS2 launch lineup.
- A-TRAIN 6/A6: A-RESSHA DE IKOU 6
- DRUMMANIA
- ETERNAL RING
- KAKINOKI SHOGI IV
- MAHJONG TAIKAI III
- MORITA SHOGI
- RIDGE RACER V
- STEPPING SELECTION
- STREET FIGHTER EX3
- KESSEN
- FANTAVISION
- I.Q. REMIX+: INTELLIGENT QUBE
- SWING AWAY GOLF/GOLF PARADISE
- Q-BALL BILLIARDS MASTER/POOL MASTER/DOUKYU BILLIARD MASTER 2
- TEKKEN TAG TOURNAMENT
- DEAD OR ALIVE 2/DEAD OR ALIVE 2: HARDCORE
- DRIVING EMOTION TYPE-S
PS2 only started to delivery megatons in the holidays with one of them being the best of all gaming history.
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Best looking versions of your old library and a massive chunk of upcoming titles on Gamespass. It's easily the cheapest way into next gen; you'll just miss out on the Sony first party exclusives if you previously enjoyed them.
Arkam
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I can relate. I have waited on many consoles until I saw something I really wanted to play.
ethomaz
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He did not even looked at PS2 launch titles that were very weak.
He is using the PS2 titles released after 6 months of the console on the market as being launch titles lol
PS2 released in March 2000 not October 2000.
October 2000 was the second wave of releases... PS2 already had over 30 titles released.
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Dabaus
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diffusionx
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Well, I got it the day it came out in the US, which was in October, and the launch was pretty solid. I can't speak for how Japanese people felt about it but I don't see why it matters.
Important to note that if a system has a good run, the launch will almost always look bad in retrospect, but it should at least give you compelling reasons to invest in the system right away. I don't remember what was on PS4 as I didn't get one, but PS5, I dunno, Demon Souls seems like a really really good launch game, and I think people who dismiss it as "just a remake" are not being fair as we know what this studio can do.
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BigLee74
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MS screwed up. Quite simply, Halo should have been ready. A good Halo is a system seller.
Heads must have rolled for that. A monumental fuck up.
Having said that, whilst the PS5 has a few exclusives ready for launch, none of them tickle MY fancy, so I certainly don't feel like I'm missing a trick there.
I will rely on the new multiplats keeping me entertained (COD, don't let me down), and some enhanced last gen stuff. A year or two down the line, we will all be drowning in stuff to play.
Heads must have rolled for that. A monumental fuck up.
Having said that, whilst the PS5 has a few exclusives ready for launch, none of them tickle MY fancy, so I certainly don't feel like I'm missing a trick there.
I will rely on the new multiplats keeping me entertained (COD, don't let me down), and some enhanced last gen stuff. A year or two down the line, we will all be drowning in stuff to play.
TheDreadLord
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S|X is pretty much a BC machine at its current state. PS5 also isn’t bringing much to the table. I actually think that the PS5 launch is in a worse condition than the S|X. Ok, Demons Souls looks nice and all but if you think that most of the early adopters are coming from PS4, there isn’t really much left to play +70USD to pick new releases.
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Phrixotrichus
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why do you guys have to play dumb like this? It is not a remaster and you know that very well.....
You also know full well, that upscaled age-old content like you posted is incomparable to this.
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EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Handling a launch without Halo is what it is, call of duty, assassins creed etc. will have to represent this launch.
oldergamer
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Same difference. Remaster, remake. call it what you want, i just won't call it "new". It looks pretty, but the gameplay looks ok to meh imo.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
this is nonsense.
I get that it doesnt look next gen but Halo 3 looks like shit compared to this.
oldergamer
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gears tactics isn't first party? Try not to be too much of a fanboy.
II_JumPeR_I
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Demon Souls is a remaster/remake and not a new game.
Godfall is also on PC and just a timed exclusive, Sackboy and Spiderman are also on PS4.
Ratchet is 2021 and will probably have a ps4 version too. Destruction whatever looks meh
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I am glad Ryan has been speaking out. I have been getting recommended a bunch of videos from youtubers fawning over this being a next gen console, and im like you've just been playing last gen games on it and will continue to play them for the next few years.
Good to see that at least some journalists have some integrity left.
I think Microsoft missed a big trick here by not launching with next gen games. They should've at least done something like Spiderman where you got some ray tracing, better looking texture models or something that sets the game apart from its last gen brethren. Demon Souls is also an easy one. You take the same game and put a new coat of paint. Quick 2 year ports with all bells and whistles. Spiderman and Demon Souls wont win gotys, they are not the best launch games ever, but they are good enough. They will tie you until the heavy hitters arrive next year. Waiting for Horizon, GoW, Ratchet, and GT7 next year becomes that much more easier because Spiderman and Demon Souls are out at launch.
This is the kind of forward thinking i expect from console makers. This is all on Phil Spencer. he announced Project Scarlett back at e3 2018. 2.5 years and and no launch games that show off this amazing console his team built for him? A failure. Not just at launch but for 2-3 years after launch? A failure of leadership here. This is not on the dev teams or the fantastic hardware and features team who have knocked it out of the park.
Good to see that at least some journalists have some integrity left.
I think Microsoft missed a big trick here by not launching with next gen games. They should've at least done something like Spiderman where you got some ray tracing, better looking texture models or something that sets the game apart from its last gen brethren. Demon Souls is also an easy one. You take the same game and put a new coat of paint. Quick 2 year ports with all bells and whistles. Spiderman and Demon Souls wont win gotys, they are not the best launch games ever, but they are good enough. They will tie you until the heavy hitters arrive next year. Waiting for Horizon, GoW, Ratchet, and GT7 next year becomes that much more easier because Spiderman and Demon Souls are out at launch.
This is the kind of forward thinking i expect from console makers. This is all on Phil Spencer. he announced Project Scarlett back at e3 2018. 2.5 years and and no launch games that show off this amazing console his team built for him? A failure. Not just at launch but for 2-3 years after launch? A failure of leadership here. This is not on the dev teams or the fantastic hardware and features team who have knocked it out of the park.
tryDEATH
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Lets be real, the launch for both companies could be delayed to next year and no one would miss out on anything this holiday season when it comes to exclusives. Demon Soul's is the only remotely next gen game and it too is a remaster, I genuinely think these console came too early as crazy as that sounds, as the games and engines simply aren't ready to take advantage of the hardware properly add COViD to the equation and you got a perfect shit storm for a launch period.
To me CP2077 is still going to be the king and will be the most played game, none of the exclusives have a sliver of a chance against it so to a certain extend not releasing anything major versus that game is the smart thing, just wish it had that next gen patch.
To me CP2077 is still going to be the king and will be the most played game, none of the exclusives have a sliver of a chance against it so to a certain extend not releasing anything major versus that game is the smart thing, just wish it had that next gen patch.