This is first generation I won't be getting either console at launch. Don't get me wrong I think both have great potential, but in terms of launch titles both are lacking from my perspective. Yes what MS is doing with regards to backward compatibility is all very clever and for sure I will use it, but with X1X and PS4 pro is see no reason to jump in to the next gen until there are more compelling titles making use of these machines.
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Ryan McCaffrey on Unlocked: There is nothing here (XSX launch lineup) that says I need to spend $500 dollars on XSX. Launch games
FunkMiller
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Historically when Microsoft over promises, you guys believe it, then they let you down when the truth comes out.
Piku_Ringo
Banned
We still believe in Uncle Phil's dream powered vision.
MiguelItUp
Member
I have a feeling that that "Yes" is bloated with all kinds of nonsense votes, lol.
That being said, for me, both consoles don't really scream "BUY ME NOW!" at all.
That being said, for me, both consoles don't really scream "BUY ME NOW!" at all.
FrankWza
Member
3 next gen spec featuring exclusives in 2020 and possibly more during launch window 2021. Plus smaller exclusives and the only DMCV edition to include ray tracing at launch. Plus:
-The Special Edition will also take advantage of the PS5’s DualSense controller and its 3D audio features. “Just wait until you get into a situation where you’re surrounded by a bunch of Hellbats — you’ll be able to pinpoint specifically where they all are in relation to the camera based on their cries,” said Capcom.
“As DMC5SE has been developed as a separate next-gen launch title, there are no plans for upgrades from DMC5.”
I’m sure everyone, at one point or another, has mistakenly mixed up remake and remaster. But you’re knowingly undermining remake here. We all know the difference and it is SIGNIFICANT.
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Redlancet
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its hilarious how some of then want to spin that lineup launch as someting positive..they even added fornite XD
nah,this "both are bad" bullshit its not landing anymore,but good luck with that
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Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Mate please dont step.
- Armored Core 2
- Dead or Alive 2: Hardcore
- Dynasty Warriors 2
- ESPN International Track and Field
- ESPN X-Games Snowboarding
- Eternal Ring
- Evergrace
- FantaVision
- GunGriffon Blaze
- Kessen
- Madden NFL 2001
- Midnight Club
- Moto GP
- NHL 2001
- Orphen: Scion of Sorcery
- Q-Ball Billiards Master
- Ready 2 Rumble Boxing: Round 2
- Ridge Racer V
- Silent Scope
- Smuggler's Run
- SSX
- Street Fighter EX3
- Summoner
- Swing Away
- Tekken Tag Tournament
- TimeSplitters
- Unreal Tournament
- Wild Wild Racing
- X-Squad
Fucking bangers....where are all the bangers on PS5.
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Hudo
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Why is it bullshit?
FrankWza
Member
It’s actually a REconstructicon. It gets together with 4 other games to form a giant game that will be available on PS6
lots of people are waiting for the next gen patch.
Redlancet
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seriously? XD lol son[/QUOTE]
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Papacheeks
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Miles morales, Demons souls are primary reasons people are preorderding PS5's. I guess the real proof in the pudding will be game sales this fall. If Miles Morales and Demons souls are not the top performers Ill do an avatar bet with you.
Or get a account ban for a month.
FrankWza
Member
the attach rate on these games will be insane. They both will go out of stock(physical)at some point before Christmas for a few days I bet
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Came out months ago on PC but sure I guess we'll just put all last gen games in the list
Romulus
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Easily the worst console launch I can remember. Especially considering the console is actually powerful. It would have been nice to see it come out swinging.
Technology moves fast, and by this time next year, and especially following year, its power won't be as prevalent because we'll have already seen alot of ps5 and PC games that are next gen, and before xbox can even show a flagship title. Then, mid gen consoles will be around the corner.
Its really a shame, you only get a truly beastly console every couple of decades, and this one squandered waiting for games that show it off. You have to come out in the launch window.
Technology moves fast, and by this time next year, and especially following year, its power won't be as prevalent because we'll have already seen alot of ps5 and PC games that are next gen, and before xbox can even show a flagship title. Then, mid gen consoles will be around the corner.
Its really a shame, you only get a truly beastly console every couple of decades, and this one squandered waiting for games that show it off. You have to come out in the launch window.
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Xenon
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Xobx series X is a day one no brainer for me. There is just too much value Im getting with BC and the future looks amazing. That said...
Not having a few new showcase games at launch is a pretty big fuck up in my opinion. Seems like there is a disconnect between the hardware and software teams. The former has been killing it for years. The latter seems lost and completely out of sync with the hardware side of the house. They have been building the Series X for close to 4 years and launch titles should have been being developed right along side it. Seems like a no brainer since both teams would be testing and using feedback to help their own product's developement. Sadly this can all be traced back to MS decision to outsource to third parties for exclusives and corrected too late. It looks like they were trying to do this with Halo Infinate but switching gears (pi) from XB1 to XB1/XBSS/X was done later than it should have been and had its own management issues. Not to mention the fact that they were trying to build the game engine from the ground up. There's just too much weight to that title to be held to the development side of the hardware. This was one thing that Sony did well. There was set group of titles being developed to be ready for launch that showcased the hardware.
This also highlights the fatal flaw of not considering hard generations. Sure they're going to sell all of them this holiday. But unless they have something coming in the next few months after release oh, it's going to be a lot harder to push units without a title that makes the system tempting to those who are already committed to a competitor's platform. They are not playing to their current position.
Overall due to the fact that their competitor is going to be limited by the number of consoles they can manufacture oh, I don't think this is going to hurt them that much. But if they don't bring out games that showcase the hardware next year, I think they're in for a another rough generation.
Not having a few new showcase games at launch is a pretty big fuck up in my opinion. Seems like there is a disconnect between the hardware and software teams. The former has been killing it for years. The latter seems lost and completely out of sync with the hardware side of the house. They have been building the Series X for close to 4 years and launch titles should have been being developed right along side it. Seems like a no brainer since both teams would be testing and using feedback to help their own product's developement. Sadly this can all be traced back to MS decision to outsource to third parties for exclusives and corrected too late. It looks like they were trying to do this with Halo Infinate but switching gears (pi) from XB1 to XB1/XBSS/X was done later than it should have been and had its own management issues. Not to mention the fact that they were trying to build the game engine from the ground up. There's just too much weight to that title to be held to the development side of the hardware. This was one thing that Sony did well. There was set group of titles being developed to be ready for launch that showcased the hardware.
This also highlights the fatal flaw of not considering hard generations. Sure they're going to sell all of them this holiday. But unless they have something coming in the next few months after release oh, it's going to be a lot harder to push units without a title that makes the system tempting to those who are already committed to a competitor's platform. They are not playing to their current position.
Overall due to the fact that their competitor is going to be limited by the number of consoles they can manufacture oh, I don't think this is going to hurt them that much. But if they don't bring out games that showcase the hardware next year, I think they're in for a another rough generation.
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Hudo
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Yeah, you might be right with both titles. I can totally see people getting both games, they probably end up being really solid for people who are into those. But is it enough? For me, I can answer that with a strong "No.". But I guess we will see what the general public thinks.
For me, I see Miles Morals more as a cash grab, not really as a full blown sequel but I love to be wrong on this. But I am not a big comic book guy anyway... And with Demon's Souls, this will sell for sure. From what I have seen, BluePoint aren't really getting the atmosphere right, IMHO. Feels different than the original Demon's Souls. They also changed the art direction to a more "comicy"/generic gothic style. And the gameplay footage lacked that "tactile" visual feedback. Combat looked a bit disjointed. But again, that's probably just me.
Papacheeks
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B-B-BUT people are not interested in this lineup....it's not a good lineup of games?
The mental gymnastics is literally giving me a headache.
2021 is not going to help these people who live in a their own bubble. Ratchet, GT7 are coming soon and I mean really soon.
Bo_Hazem
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Executive editor at IGN and Xbox guru Ryan McCaffrey said that he is dissapointed and letdown by Xbox Series X|S launch line up, when this was brought into discussion in the latest Unlocked podcast.
Xbox Series X Launch Lineup Reactions – Unlocked 466 - IGN
Say hi to special guest Cam 'The Cinephile Guy' Hawkins!www.ign.com
Link to streamable:
Edit: linking to source instead of twitter.
Edit 2: added a poll, as someone requested.
You don't even need a brain to acknowledge that, but glad he said the obvious.
FrankWza
Member
As I’ve said...best launch lineup in 3 generations. 20 years is Half the time the home console has been around. And it’s maybe the best when it comes to showcasing new gen improvements
sircaw
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Like you pointed out, he has too.
I wonder if he will be forced to apologize again? Remember that tweet he sent out years ago with the Xbox has no games, a blank screen. He retracted it and said sorry to Microsoft.
Sad state of the industry that game Jornos need to apologize to a company for having no games.
Oh that Gravy train
FrankWza
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so are the people who buy a PS5. Plus some nice exclusives
Killer Sakoman
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PS5 launch games are the best out of all Playstation generations. They have Demon's Souls and Spider-Man MM. They also have very good launch window games such as R&C
dorkimoe
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You people are insane.
The best of all time? A remaster; and a ps4 game? Seriously...come on. While the xbox launch sucks; lets not go crazy acting like the ps5 is the best...I mean good lord.
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mikefrails
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PS2 was one of two consoles (not counting the failed Dreamcast and the yet to release Xbox), of course it had a strong lineup. Stop referencing this launch in 2020.
The more options for platforms that exist, the less likely you'll see companies seek to only release with one of them. Would Devil May Cry 5 be more alluring to you if it were only on Xbox or PS? Or is it another phenomenal game that is available on both? Some of you lack perspective and it hurts.
What next-gen only experience is he looking for?
On PS5- you have Demon Souls, Destruction All-Stars, Godfall, and Astros Playroom, everything else is coming to the PS4 also
on XSX- you have Gears Tactics, Enlisted, Bright Memory, The Falconeer... everything else is on XB1
Overall none of the launch line-ups are good, but I also know what forum I'm on so one brand gets a pass
On PS5- you have Demon Souls, Destruction All-Stars, Godfall, and Astros Playroom, everything else is coming to the PS4 also
on XSX- you have Gears Tactics, Enlisted, Bright Memory, The Falconeer... everything else is on XB1
Overall none of the launch line-ups are good, but I also know what forum I'm on so one brand gets a pass
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MarkMe2525
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I agree that Series X doesn't have any exclusive content that would get me to buy one at launch, if that's what I was looking for. I pre-ordered a series x to play my 300+ games and 3rd party in the highest fidelity. The exclusives will come.
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Golgo 13
The Man With The Golden Dong
That's definitely the appeal of Xbox Series X right now. You also know Microsoft's team will work hard to double framerates on some BC games, breathing some new life into them as well. Hell, it's the reason I want (and will eventually get one) at this point.
Romulus
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I feel like they were resting everything on Halo, and even if it looked incredible the launch wouldn't have been great.
The original xbox launch was. Halo was brand new and unique, and it really showed what the Xbox could do above the other consoles. XSX needed that.
The original xbox launch was. Halo was brand new and unique, and it really showed what the Xbox could do above the other consoles. XSX needed that.
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ethomaz
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These were first year games not launch.
I listed all launch titles.
We can compare your list with PS5 games released up to May 2021 in the future.
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whitesugar
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neither are amazing, but MS's launch is particularly bad. could be more forgiving if they had had some releases recently, but there hasn't been much last couple of years. at least Sony was supporting PS4 to the end, and just had two AAA's this summer.
MS don't have an excuse for a launch this bad. whether that's in terms of mismanaging Halo, or all these studios they bought two and a half years ago having not one game ready between them
MS don't have an excuse for a launch this bad. whether that's in terms of mismanaging Halo, or all these studios they bought two and a half years ago having not one game ready between them
Ass of Can Whooping
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FrankWza
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we don’t know that yet. Watchdogs has the same specs on both and dmc only has ray tracing available on PS5 at launch. And BC? How is that bump ok but a Remake of a fromsoftware game done by bluepoint not trump BC? I realize it’s one vs a few but come on. A remake jumping 2 generations is the world heavyweight champion of BC
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Papacheeks
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How is it a cash grab? They didn't have to do anything, but they started another game right after 2018 spiderman, and also sometime in 2019 started development of a new ratchet.(or at leas thats when rumors hit, could have started much earlier)
They are literally making two games? One is smaller in scale and seems to serve as a big chapter to go into a much bigger story arc with possibilities leaning towards a spiderverse type of game series with different characters.
It may seem like a cash grab because it's smaller, but I think making a stand alone miles story was always in the cards. If you didn't get that from playing spiderman then you never played it, or dont know how to pay attention.
Playstation makes money for Sony, like a lot. And they know their game division is their biggest money maker. SO they invest in tons of projects, exclusive deals, VR to serve that whole division to make the most money they can.
How can you not look at the last 2 years of playstation and see their investment? 2018 God of war, spiderman, 2019 days gone and timed exclusives from third party, 2020 had Last of us part 2, Ghost, FF7:R.
Microsoft's last two big games were Ori will of the whisps, and Gears 5. gears tactics did all but dick and was only available for PC soon to be console.
Next year is stacked with first party and third party exclusive content. And 2022 looks like it's going to be a banger as well if rumors are true.
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Ass of Can Whooping
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No, I'm pretty sure I had it correct the first time the games i listed are only on Series X (since this is a console conversation)... people just pick and choose to create an argument...
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Every single one of those games except bright memory are coming to Xbox One
Look it up yourself
TimFL
Member
That‘s false. There is an official Xbox news blog article outlining launch titles, prominently mentioning a Tetris spinoff for the launch period.
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I stand corrected, I do however still believe that none of the consoles have anything on launch day to go crazy bragging about... it is all for 2021 on both platforms and Cyberpunk for this year
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FrankWza
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not to mention, with all the BC talk, you had GoT holdouts that have the game boost update coming. Pretty much like another exclusive launch title. I’m glad I held off playing it. Wasn’t easy.
Pallas
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It’s not great at all but it’s really not that much better on the PS5 side as well considering most of the launch games are cross generational as well. I’m guessing Sony is banking on Demon Souls remake to move launch consoles.
Aside from DS, this is arguably one of the weakest launch line ups, if not the weakest for Sony and the worst for Xbox.
Aside from DS, this is arguably one of the weakest launch line ups, if not the weakest for Sony and the worst for Xbox.
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Papacheeks
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I bet. I own it, it's by far the best IP sucker punch has ever put out. And a better for satisfying game than last of us part 2 in my opinion. Best game since god of war for sony as far as I'm concerned.
