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Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey The Official Thread of Minion and Demonica
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I'm at the last boss of the Chaos path.
Is what I'm reading true? The boss' Requiem attack (full-party instant death) has a chance to go through even if you have Null Expel, Null Curse, and Tetraja active? And all of the armor that covers the Curse stat leaves me weak to Lightning, which means I'd get one-shot by the boss' other skills.
It doesn't help that I picked the wrong choice during the Fafnir quest and got a worthless sword instead of a spectacularly awesome Ring or Armor that helps tremendously on the fight.
I found a cheap solo leveling trick in the last dungeon. Armor Vest and the Stone Gun (or something like that, it's weak as hell but has Rock Shot), alone, in H7F, Sanctuary B. Rock Shot is completely broken and has a 80% instant kill shot against pretty much everything except bosses, fiends, and things NU to guns, while Armor Vest makes you resistance to almost everything that matters (sans Elec, which is why you don't solo grind where there are Elec enemies). From 67~80, it is four fights per level, and only 3~4 turns per fight. After that, soloing Trumpeters with Enemy Search is good for another level per kill.
Is what I'm reading true? The boss' Requiem attack (full-party instant death) has a chance to go through even if you have Null Expel, Null Curse, and Tetraja active? And all of the armor that covers the Curse stat leaves me weak to Lightning, which means I'd get one-shot by the boss' other skills.
It doesn't help that I picked the wrong choice during the Fafnir quest and got a worthless sword instead of a spectacularly awesome Ring or Armor that helps tremendously on the fight.
I found a cheap solo leveling trick in the last dungeon. Armor Vest and the Stone Gun (or something like that, it's weak as hell but has Rock Shot), alone, in H7F, Sanctuary B. Rock Shot is completely broken and has a 80% instant kill shot against pretty much everything except bosses, fiends, and things NU to guns, while Armor Vest makes you resistance to almost everything that matters (sans Elec, which is why you don't solo grind where there are Elec enemies). From 67~80, it is four fights per level, and only 3~4 turns per fight. After that, soloing Trumpeters with Enemy Search is good for another level per kill.
Hoping someone can give me some help with this ex-mission in Fornax.
Alice clearly has more HP than her summon counterpart, but does anyone know how much? I got her for about 1000 before I was insta-killed, just trying to figure out if I have a shot or if I should give up while I'm not annoyed.
semiconscious
Member
Yaweee said:
yes, it's true - &, after several tries, it's why i just passed on it. hope you're luckier than me
...Doublethink
Banned
I finally got out of Sector E. God damn at that maze. And I also had problems with
It took forever but I finally took that bastard down. Onto Sector F.
Ouroboros.
Just finished the game today with neutral alignment. Man, what a great game! I really enjoyed it and am already going for a second helping. I managed the last fight with a single scouting death. In case anyone is interested, here is my
killing crew:
Form 1:
Lady Xi Wangmu Lvl 79-
Skills:
Invitation
Fleeting Rain
Repel Gun
Mediarahan
Tetrakarn
Resist Phys
Awesome healer and a classy lady.
Password:
dMFww$ogA0mr3Rnq
biEBLdoga636C6$F
Dragon Huang Long Lvl 79-
Skills:
Megidolaon
Victory Cry
Retaliate
Phys Amp
Occult Flash
Madness Crush
Badass fighter AND magic user. Great all arounder with awesome resistances.
Password:
8#DzY9NqGyrnSCij
p8c3HQUnraA$taMN
Kishin Thor Lvl 77-
Skills
Elec Amp
Life Surge
Debilitate
Maziodyne
Void Mind
Madness Crush
The Thunder God himself. Huge lifepool and absolutely devastating damage.
Password:
JTe+#euFiEo04X4H
LxXYPM#k3bwOMexi
Form 2:
I only switched one guy which was Thor subbed for Hachiman
Deity Hachiman lvl 77-
Skills:
Maziodyne
Judgement
Tetrakarn
Life Surge
Megidolaon
Void Mind
High damage caster with solid resistances.
Password:
z0eiHDaJB49qcOyh
dq+8jK5A5WP3cPaG
Basically, the strategy was to queue up Mediarahan at the beginning of every round thus negating the huge damage that happened. Then I would Madness Crush with Thor and Huang Long which did extreme damage (typically 600 to 800 or more per round together.) The main character defended every round except when he dished out the mana items (I believe I used 3 Great Chakra and 2 Chakara Pots for the full battle.) When the form changed, the boss was reflecting physical damage so I switch to Hachiman and did Megidolaon with Huang and Hachi for the rest of the fight until he became vulnerable to physical for whatever reason and I moved Thor back in.
I think my strategy from Neutral path would work for you. Doing defend causes your weaknesses to be negated thus you wouldn't be vulnerable to lightning on your main character. With that, you can wear curse resistant armor and still be free of the worry about lightning weakness.
Mem Aleph
Form 1:
Lady Xi Wangmu Lvl 79-
Skills:
Invitation
Fleeting Rain
Repel Gun
Mediarahan
Tetrakarn
Resist Phys
Awesome healer and a classy lady.
Password:
dMFww$ogA0mr3Rnq
biEBLdoga636C6$F
Dragon Huang Long Lvl 79-
Skills:
Megidolaon
Victory Cry
Retaliate
Phys Amp
Occult Flash
Madness Crush
Badass fighter AND magic user. Great all arounder with awesome resistances.
Password:
8#DzY9NqGyrnSCij
p8c3HQUnraA$taMN
Kishin Thor Lvl 77-
Skills
Elec Amp
Life Surge
Debilitate
Maziodyne
Void Mind
Madness Crush
The Thunder God himself. Huge lifepool and absolutely devastating damage.
Password:
JTe+#euFiEo04X4H
LxXYPM#k3bwOMexi
Form 2:
I only switched one guy which was Thor subbed for Hachiman
Deity Hachiman lvl 77-
Skills:
Maziodyne
Judgement
Tetrakarn
Life Surge
Megidolaon
Void Mind
High damage caster with solid resistances.
Password:
z0eiHDaJB49qcOyh
dq+8jK5A5WP3cPaG
Basically, the strategy was to queue up Mediarahan at the beginning of every round thus negating the huge damage that happened. Then I would Madness Crush with Thor and Huang Long which did extreme damage (typically 600 to 800 or more per round together.) The main character defended every round except when he dished out the mana items (I believe I used 3 Great Chakra and 2 Chakara Pots for the full battle.) When the form changed, the boss was reflecting physical damage so I switch to Hachiman and did Megidolaon with Huang and Hachi for the rest of the fight until he became vulnerable to physical for whatever reason and I moved Thor back in.
Yaweee said:
I think my strategy from Neutral path would work for you. Doing defend causes your weaknesses to be negated thus you wouldn't be vulnerable to lightning on your main character. With that, you can wear curse resistant armor and still be free of the worry about lightning weakness.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
I had two demons using Agi and Agilao respectively to trigger demon co-op, while my main character ran items and threw the occasional heavy damage elemental attack, and the last demon was the cure-meister. It was a real war of attrition, but I wouldn't say it was especially difficult as opposed to a bit lengthy.Hyunkel6 said:
Doublethink
Banned
I honestly think I just lucked out since she barely used her big attacks.Hyunkel6 said:
Otherwise, try to make sure your entire party has physical resistance. I also had three members of my party with a fire skill and the last one was either lowering Ouroboros's defense or raising the party's agility. I found that Bead Chains were essential.
viewtifulsub
Member
When i beat the boss earlier on Neutral path:
. Nothing too specific outside that, as i managed to beat her on the 2nd attempt.
If you haven't already, grab a Vivian from Sector E (either on SW Level 1/2 or TOP). Level it up to grab its source, which includes Luster Candy (Atk/Def/Agl buff).
Put aside any demons weak to elec. Get some wind elemental (+gun for MC) & buff/debuff spells. Demons that reflect physical/electric attacks are a bonus
If you haven't already, grab a Vivian from Sector E (either on SW Level 1/2 or TOP). Level it up to grab its source, which includes Luster Candy (Atk/Def/Agl buff).
Finally beat the Chaos Path. The last boss wasn't that bad with full +3/-3 buffs/debuffs, appropriate demons, Dragon Ring/Armor, and being level 84. I still think it is really, really dumb how the Requiem attack is handled, essentially requiring you to keep full buffs and get lucky.
Overall, the game is one of the best SMT games to make it to the US, easily up there with Nocturne, P4, and Devil Survivor. But I really like dungeon crawlers in general.
Overall, the game is one of the best SMT games to make it to the US, easily up there with Nocturne, P4, and Devil Survivor. But I really like dungeon crawlers in general.
Beat the neutral path last week (level 73) - the last fight was a pain (considering my low level).
Had to come up with a real defensive strategy depending on luck which really only worked well that one time (probably died around 25 times )
Reading some comments how the game turns tedious towards the end I was pleasantly surprised how much I actually enjoyed the endgame.
Had to come up with a real defensive strategy depending on luck which really only worked well that one time (probably died around 25 times )
Reading some comments how the game turns tedious towards the end I was pleasantly surprised how much I actually enjoyed the endgame.
decoyplatypus
Member
I've gained access to
, and I think I'm finally over my worst fusion logjam all game. For whatever reason, my active roster of 12 demons couldn't fuse into much of anything useful from level 55 to 61. I wasn't in dire straits - my core lineup's effectiveness was one of the reasons I was unwilling to take bad fusion deals just to get things moving again - but I was frustrated thinking about how many demons I must have been missing in that range. Now I can relax, fuse away, and recruit a whole new sector's worth of ingredients.
Is it bad that the only medal I've earned is the beginner's?
Sector H
Is it bad that the only medal I've earned is the beginner's?
Still at the end of Eridanus, although I haven't played it in a while. I loved this game at the start but this sector has really killed my enjoyment of the game, please tell me it gets better again after this place.
Also, any tips on beating the last boss of this sector, the second form.
Also, any tips on beating the last boss of this sector, the second form.
Amazon just delivered this lovely game to me today, about 5 hours in now. Can't stop playing, this is really my first dive into a SMT game and I'm absolutely hooked.
If I'm loving the demon fusing and dungeon crawling in this, should I pick up Persona 1 on psn and Devil Survivor for DS? Any other recommendations would be great(keep in mind all I have with me are my PSP Go, DS and my laptop for gaming, consoles are in the US and its going to be a while tell I ship them here)
If I'm loving the demon fusing and dungeon crawling in this, should I pick up Persona 1 on psn and Devil Survivor for DS? Any other recommendations would be great(keep in mind all I have with me are my PSP Go, DS and my laptop for gaming, consoles are in the US and its going to be a while tell I ship them here)
Witchfinder General
punched Wheelchair Mike
Beat the game yesterday, main character at Lv99, Law ending.
Fantastic, awesome game, but man did I not like the Law path. Damn my "Always play as Law on first playthrough" rule. I should have played as Neutral.
Fantastic, awesome game, but man did I not like the Law path. Damn my "Always play as Law on first playthrough" rule. I should have played as Neutral.
Both games are absolutely worth playing, though they are also different from Strange Journey in various ways (Devil Survivor, especially, being a strategy RPG, so no dungeon crawling). The fusion (and skill crack system) in Devil Survivor is especially awesome, though.Shinjitsu said:
Echoes said:
Well, SJ is a first-person dungeon crawler like Persona PSP. The music is a completely different style, though, and the battle system is quite different as well. It's fairly basic still, but not in the same ways. I would say that it's different enough from Persona PSP that you should still give it a shot, unless the first-person dungeons were a real turn-off. As for Devil Survivor, it's very different, being a strategy RPG.
Echoes said:
Wait. Wait wait. If you can't get down with Persona, that I can totally understand. The game can be kind of rough when compared to today's RPGs, and if you didn't play and appreciate it back in its time, you might have serious trouble appreciating it now.
But saying the music is awful?!? I just... WAT.
viewtifulsub
Member
A game's soundtrack is crucial to my gaming experience. Of course, we all love good music, but for example I wouldn't play Mega Man 2 if it was on mute, and that's one of my favorite games ever.Dresden said:
Tried several times, but I can't take the annoying songs more than 3 to 4 hours. The worst I have ever listened to.
charlequin
Banned
Echoes said:
Echoes said:
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Melhisedek
Member
This is my first SMT game and daaaamn it kicks my butt. I just beat Mitra with a lot of luck I would say. I'm not really sure what I'm doing but it got me so far. I just go around and fuse demons up to highest levels I can. Haven't used any demons sources (no idea why am afraid I'll use them on something worthless)
I'm serious. It's so good and as one of the commenters said "it's like an epic boss battle". Really liking it.charlequin said:
I know the Persona series has such great tracks here and there, but I can't handle J-pop at all (which is there, a lot). I don't hate the series; I bought P3 and P4 because I thought they were good games and I want to like them. Maybe they weren't for me (or I didn't give them a chance because my job sorta suck with console games), but the art-style is so freaking awesome. The presentation as well; Persona PSP has such a great-looking feel to it in the menu and when you level up.
Chrono Helix
Member
Himuro said:
I had an Apsaras asking me if she could use me to destress, and then she hurt me until I was left with 1HP, and then she said she was feeling better already, and then she left the battle.
I had another female demon ask me to come closer so I could smell her perfume, and when I did I got hurt, and then she remarked 'oh, I forgot it's poison to humans.'
Trojita
Rapid Response Threadmaker
Just got to the second area of the game. Man this reminds me so much of the main SMT series, my ass got owned how many times trying to start out in the second level. Playing FFXIII with the restart option at the end of each battle and then playing this is completely different :lol
Feels good though when you start beating enemies that were giving you a hard time. I could barely beat each of the mosaic'd demons. The whole alignment system is confusing me though.
I'm assuming that each area of the game
Feels good though when you start beating enemies that were giving you a hard time. I could barely beat each of the mosaic'd demons. The whole alignment system is confusing me though.
I'm assuming that each area of the game
are places that show the actions humans are taking that will lead to the world being destroyed. There was a battlefield battlefield (War), Red Light District (lust / debauchery), I believe a Mall shows up later (Greed and Materialism).
Akainu said:
From gamefaqs, seems to be pretty accurate in my experience:
"The formula for demon sources is 2(current level - base level). So say you have a level 3 Okiku Mushi. You are about to level it up to 10. Now the difference here is 7 levels. That means that when you level it up again, it has a 14% chance of getting a demon source. 2 x (10-3)"
charlequin
Banned
Akainu said:
I've gotten three Black Frost sources, so it definitely is.
I'm currently being frustrated/annoyed by Delphinus. Not so much the invisible passages, but the animation you're forced through every damn time you enter one.
I like the sub-apps that allow me to reduce the encounter rate; sometimes I just want to get through the dungeon without a battle starting every five seconds.
Does anyone else think the alignment/battle system is a critical design flaw in this game? It sounds good on paper: make sure all your demons are on the same side and you get extra damage. Thing is, you get so much advantage doing this that you'd be stupid NOT to do it, so you end up wanting only a third of the demons available. Right now my demon portfolio is nearly full but fusing them will only give me blue or red results; no white to match my MC.
I'm in the unusual position of playing SMT:SJ and Nocturne for the first time, at the same time. I like a lot of things about SJ, such as the story, the setting, the music and (especially) the portability. Overall, however, Nocturne wins.
I like the sub-apps that allow me to reduce the encounter rate; sometimes I just want to get through the dungeon without a battle starting every five seconds.
Does anyone else think the alignment/battle system is a critical design flaw in this game? It sounds good on paper: make sure all your demons are on the same side and you get extra damage. Thing is, you get so much advantage doing this that you'd be stupid NOT to do it, so you end up wanting only a third of the demons available. Right now my demon portfolio is nearly full but fusing them will only give me blue or red results; no white to match my MC.
I'm in the unusual position of playing SMT:SJ and Nocturne for the first time, at the same time. I like a lot of things about SJ, such as the story, the setting, the music and (especially) the portability. Overall, however, Nocturne wins.