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[ethomaz]

Every goddamn game, GOW , Death Stranding..etc all quiet?! Bruh, I'm pretty sure you have the X in your crib

Yes it is quiet with all games I have... Death Stranding, Uncharted 4, GTS, DQXI, etc etc etc;

The Playstation 4 was anything but quiet. Not sure where you are getting that from...

From the PS4 that I play games every day.

Do these laptops have cold fusion?

You and the point are not in the same path lol

 

[ZywyPL]

Both silence and performance - people have been building ITX PCs with same/better specs for years without any compromises. Sure, without the optical drive that takes a lot of space, but at the same time limited with the cooling solutions available on the market, but X1X clearly shown that if you put a custom-made vapor chamber that fills all the available space in the case you can actually get the best of both worlds.

 

[pr0cs]

Xbox' size, saying 'it won't fit in my setup'

They're looking for excuses because they state clearly that the device works horizontal and vertical.
It will fit everywhere a ps4 xbone fits

 

[ethomaz]

They're looking for excuses because they state clearly that the device works horizontal and vertical.
It will fit everywhere a ps4 xbone fits

Actually it didn't fit where my PS4 is no matter horizontal or vertical.
My Soundbar is less than 3cm above my PS4... anymore higher than that won't fit.

 

[pr0cs]

Actually it didn't fit where my PS4 is.

Who you kidding, you wouldn't be caught dead with an Xbox to begin with

 

[Vawn]

Personally? I don't care about either. All my consoles are hooked up in my media closet to the surround sound reciever. I don't see or hear any of them anyways.

 

[ethomaz]

Who you kidding, you wouldn't be caught dead with an Xbox to begin with

I won't buy a Xtower but it really doesn't fit where I put my console... so claim it can fit in any place a PS4 or XB1 fits is definitely false.

BTW most places you put a console didn't have more than 10cm in height because that is the standard in racks.

 

[SLB1904]

sony probably didn't learn anything from the ps4. so ps5 will be loud. do you guys really expect them to make the same mistake?
also the problem with ps4 is not the size, i opened and the thermal paste was kinda dry, and the heat sink was blocked.
its really quiet and it has been like that for over a year

 

[DESTROYA]

...

"Unless Sony invented cold fusion to cool their system with magic, it's going to be bigger than people want.'

There is hardware on market that shows his claim is false.

BTW this laptop has a RTX 2080 inside lol
You can use that as reference too: https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/13/17442776/msi-gs65-stealth-thin-gaming-laptop-review

If anything I know laptop tech and the MSI GS65 has a 80W Max Q GPU with much slower clocks than 215W desktop RTX 2080 and the desktop performs about 30%-40% better than the laptop variants .
Not a great comparison

 

[ethomaz]

If anything I know laptop tech and the MSI GS65 has a 80W Max Q GPU with much slower clocks than 215W desktop RTX 2080 and the desktop performs about 30%-40% better than the laptop variants .
Not a great comparison

Laptop RTX 2080 has clocks: -7% Boost, -9% Base... that is nowhere near 30-40%.

This MSI is probably using the cheap Max Q that has stupid performance.

You can find a lot of RTX 2080 laptop.

 

[pr0cs]

but it really doesn't fit where I put my console

It would fit just fine.
Most racks are WAY taller than 10 cm

 

[ethomaz]

It would fit just fine.
Most racks are WAY taller than 10 cm

You saw the pic and that is your reply? It doesn't fit in my hack unless you want it to cover part of my TV lol
It doesn't fit where I put my PS4... it is physically impossible.

And I'm sure most racks with place to these devices didn't support Xtower too.

 

[pr0cs]

You saw the pic and that is your reply? It doesn't fit in my hack.

Yep, it won't fit under the speaker but fine in front of it.
Something tells me that if the ps5 is of similar dimensions it will magically fit just fine

 

[Mistershine.]

Size does matter.
The lies with the motion of the ocean yeah if you are small you try to hit the walls so you wiggle around till she gets sea sick.


Honestly to me it has to be silent.
Dont care how big or ugly it is

Consoles or women??

 

[Insane Metal]

Not with the hardware they're going with.

DAMN

 

[ethomaz]

Yep, it won't fit under the speaker but fine in front of it.
Something tells me that if the ps5 is of similar dimensions it will magically fit just fine

It won't fit in front covering my TV... in both way you are thinking it won't fit.

I will take pics using a tennis box.

Edit - I used the subwoffer.

I just realized I took the pictures without turn the light on or use night mode lol

 

[SNG32]

Small and loud I don't care if it's loud. I still have my PS4 from launch and I have adapted to the jet engine sound

 

[intbal]

Size, shape, noise. All irrelevant to me.
I just don't want to play any more 30fps games.
If it needs to be the size of a rottweiler, so be it. I can always set it on the floor.

 

[CrisPy2019]

Silence is much more important (if that means good cooling of course)

A big box can be inside a shelf or whatever. I also have subwoofers and big speakers so Im used to having big boxes.

Loud consoles destroy the immersion when playing silent passages without headphones. And if the fan has variable speeds all the time it gets annoying.

Your brain cannot ignore sounds that change. It can ignore sounds that are always the same.


And a big box might annoy you when you dont play but stare at your equipment. A loud console annoys you while you play.

 

[DESTROYA]

Laptop RTX 2080 has clocks: -7% Boost, -9% Base... that is nowhere near 30-40%.

When we are talking 80W 2080 MQ over a 215W 2080 yes we are read your own graphs you posted

Those are laptop variants of the RTX 2080

2080 MQ 80W
2080 150W+ like the AW m51......about a 10%-15% boost over 2080MQ
2080 215W desktop........about a 10%-15 boost over full power laptop 2080

All variants have about 10%-15% performance gap between them, so yes a desktop 2080 should perform at least 30% better than the 2080MQ.

RTX 2080 Max-Q vs RTX 2080 Laptop vs RTX 2080 Desktop – Official Specs

	RTX 2080 Max-Q	RTX 2080 (Laptop)	RTX 2080 (Desktop)
CUDA Cores	2944	2944	2944
RTX-OPS	37 T	53 T	60 T
Giga Rays/s	5	7	8
Boost Clock (MHz)	1095	1590	1800
Base Clock (MHz)	735	1380	1515
Thermal Design Power	80-90 W	150+ W	225 W
Memory Speed	Up to 14 Gbps	Up to 14 Gbps	14 Gbps
Memory Config	8 GB GDDR6	8 GB GDDR6	8 GB GDDR6
Memory Interface Width	256-bit	256-bit	256-bit
Memory Bandwidt GB/sec	448	448	448

 

[quest]

After the one x silent. Size I'm not concerned about I have a full sized entertainment center. I chose function over minimal looks.

 

[KungFucius]

I don't really care. I have a relatively large PC sitting next to my TV. Actually one next to both TVs. Ages ago when my PC sat on a desk, I had a setup with shelves that could be moved around to accommodate something large. The thing isn't that big on its side. It looks smaller than a typical receiver. If the Xbox games didn't come to PC, all I would really care about are the games. I'd put the thing on the floor if I needed to.

 

[mejin]

Let Sony reveal ps5 first.

 

[CatLady]

Why not both like PS4.

Or better yet, why not all 3 like the X1X - Smallest, most powerful and completely silent.

 

[nowhat]

Top tips for a quieter console:

• Remove any discs that are in there if you aren't using it. My X sounds like a fucking washing machine if I leave a disc in.
• Vac out the vents, front and back, at least once a month to prevent dust smothering the components. Placing your hand over the front vents while vaccing out the back and visa versa, helps a lot.
• Don't put them in enclosed spaces as the fans will run faster to keep the console cooled.

Solid tips, but especially if you have an launch PS4 or Pro, one more. Both can (not necessarily will, it's dumb luck basically) have a manufacturing (or assembly) flaw that really shouldn't exist - that the thermal paste is poorly applied (and it's not very high quality to begin with). Changing the thermal paste will void your warranty so the usual warnings apply, but really, if you've ever put a PC together you should have the required skills. There are several guides/YouTube videos available online for instructions.

....but as said, the usual warnings apply, I'm not responsible for people tinkering with their consoles.

Edit: oh one more, if you have a Slim or a Pro, the top comes off without any tools so you can easily clean some of the innards. This will not void your warranty - it does take a bit of force and I was quite certain I'm going to break the top cover first time I removed it, but it's really quite sturdy plastic (which also makes it a bit trickier to remove). Again, instructions can be found online.

 

[-Arcadia-]

Top tips for a quieter console:

• Remove any discs that are in there if you aren't using it. My X sounds like a fucking washing machine if I leave a disc in.
• Vac out the vents, front and back, at least once a month to prevent dust smothering the components. Placing your hand over the front vents while vaccing out the back and visa versa, helps a lot.
• Don't put them in enclosed spaces as the fans will run faster to keep the console cooled.

I’ve heard that the second point can damage fans? Although this is much less desirable for most people, it probably is better to open it up and blow it out with a can of compressed air.

 

[existensmaximum]

It is possible to make a big console that doesn't like like a pile of shit, too. Not bulky, flatter etc.

That being said, I'd prefer a less powerful, smaller, sleeker console that is quiet. Otherwise, just get a tower pc?

 

[Hayabusabruh]

If games are going to look anything close to hellblade 2, the console can be dildo shaped for all I care.

 

[nowhat]

If games are going to look anything close to hellblade 2, the console can be dildo shaped for all I care.

And there would be an all-natural option for noise reduction!

...I'll show myself out.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

I’ve heard that the second point can damage fans? Although this is much less desirable for most people, it probably is better to open it up and blow it out with a can of compressed air.

Vac it while it's turned off and don't vac the fans so hard that they're spinning their nuts off.

Compressed air is also an option

 

[Jtibh]

Consoles or women??

Haha . Both

 

[OutrageousFacts]

Or better yet, why not all 3 like the X1X - Smallest, most powerful and completely silent.

And released several years after the original, when technology advanced to where that was possible.

 

[LordOfChaos]

The trio of priorities, in this order

1) Performance. There's no replacement for displacement, and especially on the same architectures launching around the same date around the same price (if that's all true), wattage rules. Give me tonnes of thermal dissipation.

2) Silence. No distractions pls. Simple enough

3) Size. It matters, but I'll deal.

 

[GHG]

I legitimately read the title as: "size or silent sex?"

Yes I've been drinking...

 

[12Dannu123]

Not with the hardware they're going with.

Microsoft hardware design -----------------> Sony hardware.

Microsoft's hardware these days is top notch and the tech industry agrees. Sony's hardware has gone downhill and innovation at the company died with it.

I expect the PS5 to be the be smaller, but it'll be much much louder and also likely be at risk of overheating due to its size.

 

[ManaByte]

Microsoft hardware design -----------------> Sony hardware.

Microsoft's hardware these days is top notch and the tech industry agrees.

Except for the Surface Books that a glued shut making repairs near impossible. But yes, you're correct. Everything but those Surface Books is really good.

 

[12Dannu123]

Except for the Surface Books that a glued shut making repairs near impossible. But yes, you're correct. Everything but those Surface Books is really good.

That's nothing to do with crappy hardware and more to do with intentional design and engineering.

 

[Codes 208]

Just occurred to me, has it been confirmed whether or not the controller is battery operated or are they switching over to chargeable? As much as i love my eneloops, the switch pro controller has proven you can have a high quality wireless controller without the ds4’s level of shit battery life.

 

[OutrageousFacts]

Just occurred to me, has it been confirmed whether or not the controller is battery operated or are they switching over to chargeable? As much as i love my eneloops, the switch pro controller has proven you can have a high quality wireless controller without the ds4’s level of shit battery life.

Nah, I prefer batteries. Even the best built-in battery dies eventually and then you need a new controller - worse, however, your usage time becomes shorter and shorter and it just keeps getting more annoying. With regular batteries, you just put in fresh ones and it's as new.

I'd be surprised if Microsoft changes that.

 

[Fbh]

Between the 2 I do prefer silence over size.
Though I often play with headphones so it being quiet isn't that important to me either.

What I want more than either of those things is durability and good build quality. A console that will last me the entire gen without giving me issues.

 

[Codes 208]

Nah, I prefer batteries. Even the best built-in battery dies eventually and then you need a new controller - worse, however, your usage time becomes shorter and shorter and it just keeps getting more annoying. With regular batteries, you just put in fresh ones and it's as new.

I'd be surprised if Microsoft changes that.

Ive had my switch pro controller for nearly three years and i honestly have yet to notice any changes in the battery life.

 

[Tarin02543]

To me loud fan-noise is a defect.

Whichever console is the quietest will get my money.

 

[pr0cs]

Nah, I prefer batteries.

QFT the integrated battery is the thing I hate the most about the PS3 and 4.
The convenience of popping in new batteries and being back in the action instantly... untethered.. well outweighs benefits of integrated packs

 

[Xenon]

My launch PS4 is not bad most of the time. But on a few games games it's pretty horrible. I'm more worried about the big hard clunk it does when I turn it on and off.

 

[Starlight Lotice]

If the PS5 is the size of a PC Engine and purrs like a small pussy then I will prefer silent and smol.

 

[spons]

I hate loud devices. Besides, the new Xbox isn't even that large.

 

[shenmue mugen]

Neither size nor silence....I want POWER!!!!

Make my consoles powerful Sony, MS and Nintendo...I'll deal with finding room for them...

 

[point decay]

would prefer a quieter console, MS seem to have got their act together with the One S and especially the One X

 

[Norse]

Wonder if ps5 looks like SX which is why MS showed theirs first. Now that would be crazy.

Twin towers on you TV stand

 

[Nickolaidas]

It can look like a turd - as long as its cool and silent.