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So, how is the Saturn version of Resident Evil compared to the PlayStation one?
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FortNinety
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On a side note, the Saturn conversion I believe was done by NexTech, who did Ranger X and Crusader of Centy, both aesome Genesis games.
They also would end up doing Code Vernoica for the DC, so they ain't all that bad. But yeah, the Saturn version of the first is pretty lacking.
They also would end up doing Code Vernoica for the DC, so they ain't all that bad. But yeah, the Saturn version of the first is pretty lacking.
The pc version looks wonderful.........................if you have a card that supports 3dfx! The default software mode looks horrible, I really wanted to play RE on my pc, but the graphics are just too blotchy and crazy looking to forgive if your card is d3d only. I've been trying to find a good glider that works with this game with no luck. If you do have a card that supports 3dfx or don't mind the software mode, it's pretty much worth it though. The pc version is pretty much uncut, in another thread someone mentioned it has stuff that even the Directors cut didn't even have.
Shogmaster
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XS+ said:
Are you insane? CV was a great RE game! Very good graphics too. All real time 3D, remember? Compare it to all real time RE games like RE4 for GC, and you'll realise it's quite nice for DC circa 2000.
Compared to Shenmue (another 3D adventure game on DC) and the next gen RE games (yeah GC is superior to DC and all blah blah), CV ended up looking pretty weak. Poor textures and models everywhere. An ace developer (like Capcom themselves? LOL) would have made CV look far more impressive on DC, and Nextech ain't a ace developer IMO.
As for the CV game itself, the story went to crap from the second half onward (after the helicopter crash).
As for the CV game itself, the story went to crap from the second half onward (after the helicopter crash).
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>>>The pc version looks wonderful.........................if you have a card that supports 3dfx! <<<
I find that very difficult to believe. The PC, DC, and GC versions of RE2 and 3 all have the same shitty 320X240, low bit-depth backgrounds as on PSone. Why would RE be any different?
I find that very difficult to believe. The PC, DC, and GC versions of RE2 and 3 all have the same shitty 320X240, low bit-depth backgrounds as on PSone. Why would RE be any different?
Shogmaster
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XS+ said:
You are being a bit unfair, no? Shenmue was developed by the best dev team at Sega with the most access to the best dev tools for DC for over 3 years (started since the Saturn days) with the most budget. CV was still being negotiated for when DC was announced in 1998 (Sega pres at the time said that they were working hard to get RE for DC in an interview), and probably only had about 18 months of development OUTSIDE of Sega at the most.
Also, there are things CV does better than Shenmue, like the facial animations. I remember being in total awe of the in game engine facial animations (like Claire when she first hears Alexia/Alfred's father through the vents). Compared to CV's SM's facial animation was a bit puppet like.
And as for GC - DC comparasin, let's not even go there.
I guess it isn't fair that you can count on one hand the number of devs that produced impressive 3D on DC. All I'm saying is I was really unimpressed with CV back in 2000, and left me wondering what could have been if Capcom themselves didn't treat the project like an illegitimate bastard (RECV was more of a sequel to RE2 than Nemesis was, yet it was given the 'side story'-like subtitle instead of a chapter number) and dev'd the game in-house.
The lower-poly NPCs in Shenmue had poor face expressions, but Ryo and the other main characters had amazing and subtle facial animations that trumped whatever I saw in CV.
The lower-poly NPCs in Shenmue had poor face expressions, but Ryo and the other main characters had amazing and subtle facial animations that trumped whatever I saw in CV.
LOL, I wasn't trying to.
Shogmaster
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XS+ said:
I think we should make a distintion between facial animation and facial expression. What Shenmue did was facial expression. What CV did was facial animation.
In SM, even the hero characters didn't have a dynamic changes (i.e. animation) in facial expressions. All they had was a permanently mapped subtle expression and puppet like eyes and mouth movements for dialog and blinking.
CV's hero characters (granted only in cut scenes) had facial animation that was truely dynamic and emotional. Much closer to like those found in later PS2 games like Jak and Daxter.
I have no idea what you're talking about, I saw Ryo smile and scowl and look sad and look stupid. I didn't notice that range of animation in CV. I don't own CV anymore so I can't double-check, but I can tell you with all confidence that Ryo's face is very articulate.
Maybe there's some technical angle to CV's models that I'm not qualified to argue with, but looking at the end product, no, I wasn't all too impressed.
Maybe there's some technical angle to CV's models that I'm not qualified to argue with, but looking at the end product, no, I wasn't all too impressed.
Shogmaster
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XS+ said:
I think your memory's been tainted over time. I still have CV, DC SM, and XB SM2, so I can tell you that you are way off.
Most SM's characters have their expressions stuck in one state. Ones that switch from one emotion to another, like Izumi or whatever her name was, didn't transition well from one expression to another. It was more or less switching from one geomentry set to another.
CV characters (especially Claire) had very smooth and dynamic transition of emotional expressions. That really made an impression on me from the get go.
Please don't try to tell me my feelings on the topic are "way off," thanks. I haven't played CV on DC since 2000, but I played CVX back in April, and besides marginal touch-ups from the DC game, it looks about as average as it did then. Don't know what else to tell you.Shogmaster said:
Shogmaster
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XS+ said:
What's wrong with telling you you're off on something? Why come to a message board if you can't take something like that?
Well if it makes you feel any better, I think, based upon your impressions pf Shenmue and CV, your reaction and judgement is misguided at best, and I'd even wager to guess that your eyes are a few rods and cones shy of a normal human being's.
I'm willing to agree to disagree on this subject. How about you?
I'm willing to agree to disagree on this subject. How about you?
Shogmaster
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XS+ said:
Chicken..... BAWK BAWK!
XS+ said:
You shouldn't go arrogantly thinking your standards of "good graphics" apply to everyone; no view of a game's graphics in a certain timeframe is "misguided." Your childish attempt to try to insult someone's physical body features only serves to make you look dumb in the end. That's what I "think", anyway. Whether you were provoked or not, your comments above were just mean.
Shogmaster
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Anyone for a good Mac thread?
RE:CV graphically unimpressive? Wow I would have never believed someone could say that. Yeah maybe the PS2 or GC version (games was years old by the time those ports were made) but the initial DC release. I don't think I am alone when I say CV was one of the best looking DC games ever made.
I remember back in my importing days picking up the DC version of RE:2 just to get the CV demo that was packed in with it. We played that demo to death, even made a video of it for a local game store. The graphics were outstanding, character models were great, the lip syncing with the facial animations were most of the time dead on, hell the textures for the most part were perfection.
Someone who could find RE:CV to be anything but graphically amazing, I am sorry to say must be one jaded little gamer.
I remember back in my importing days picking up the DC version of RE:2 just to get the CV demo that was packed in with it. We played that demo to death, even made a video of it for a local game store. The graphics were outstanding, character models were great, the lip syncing with the facial animations were most of the time dead on, hell the textures for the most part were perfection.
Someone who could find RE:CV to be anything but graphically amazing, I am sorry to say must be one jaded little gamer.
Yeah well believe it or not, I vivdly recall years ago one person at GA agreeing with me about CV's graphics. SO THERE :S
I was scratching my head, wondering what the heck everyone was raving about. Seriously, the game had a nice creepy atmosphere but I wasn't 'wowed' by the visuals by any stretch of the imagination. Just my opinion, that's apparently in the vast minority.
Shogmaster
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XS+ said:
Boo~ We deserve better than this weaksauce rebuttal!
Shogmaster
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XS+ said:
Shit, you got me there.....
I deem it good enough for GA! *smacks it with a stamp of approval*
A internet column isn't going to change my mind about blurry textures (what did the design on Claire's jacket say exactly? And the zombies were a blurred, pixelly mess. The visuals basically fell apart during the cutscenes/Battle Mode when the camera zoomed in), hands that did not animate (is this such an impossible graphic achievement, or just plain lazyness? Shenmue and DoA2 for example did it without a hitch) and jerky, stilted, unconvincing animation (especially during closeups/cutscenes).
Or are you asking me to 'assimilate' and blindly adopt the general consensus? Thanks no thanks
Or are you asking me to 'assimilate' and blindly adopt the general consensus? Thanks no thanks
Shogmaster
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It is settled. CV killed XS+'s dog.
We mourn your loss, XS+.....
We mourn your loss, XS+.....
Shogmaster
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I'll get you a new puppy. We'll name her Veronica.
Man, all those pics signet posted makes me want to play through those two games again.
Man, all those pics signet posted makes me want to play through those two games again.