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So I just bought Kingdom Hearts All in One package
Shifty
Member
A solid start, followed by the best Action RPG ever made, and then a gradual piecemeal descent into filler and totally incoherent weeb nonsense.
And probably some of GAF's resident Squeenix stans popping into your thread to screech at people that don't unconditionally love every entry in the same way they do, as is tradition.
And probably some of GAF's resident Squeenix stans popping into your thread to screech at people that don't unconditionally love every entry in the same way they do, as is tradition.
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KiteGr
Member
Make sure to "watch" KH 364/2 days after KH2.
It appears before it in the collection, but that's only because they wanted to balance the content in the original releases where they where being bundled in 3s.
It was made and meant to be played/watched after KH2.
Saber
Gold Member
You're in for a treat.
In a good and bad way at same time lmao
Make sure to start with KH1 and then jump to Re:CoM. Just watch out for complete different gameplay changes.
Really recommend playing Birth By Sleep first, pretty damn good game.
lughnasadh123
Member
From what I've heard: prepare to be more confused the more you play.
Saiyan-Rox
Member
A fun start with an immense migraine at the end
Doctor Hades
Member
The Kingdom Hearts games are very charming if a little shallow. The first two games lack the sense of being in a consistent world with small locations that often feel more like themed rooms. The story is also ridiculously convoluted for a game aimed at both children and adults. There are way too many characters and it gets very confusing keeping track of whos-who and what their motives are. I really do think they should have reigned it in a bit.
Personally, I think the first two games are memorable only for the Disney characters and locations / cutscenes based on the movies otherwise they feel very basic in terms of gameplay. If it wasn't for the Disney licence then I think the game would not have got the recognition it got. I really enjoyed Kingdom Hearts III though, which moved away from the small boxy room design of the PS2 era games to a more expansive design with less loading screens that really made great use of both Unreal Engine 4 and the Disney licence. The cutscenes, many based on ones from the movies including Toy Story, are superb. I also found the gameplay and worlds far more enjoyable to play even if the story itself didn't really do much for me.
Personally, I think the first two games are memorable only for the Disney characters and locations / cutscenes based on the movies otherwise they feel very basic in terms of gameplay. If it wasn't for the Disney licence then I think the game would not have got the recognition it got. I really enjoyed Kingdom Hearts III though, which moved away from the small boxy room design of the PS2 era games to a more expansive design with less loading screens that really made great use of both Unreal Engine 4 and the Disney licence. The cutscenes, many based on ones from the movies including Toy Story, are superb. I also found the gameplay and worlds far more enjoyable to play even if the story itself didn't really do much for me.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
The story/writing is like if you tried to distill the concept of “cringe” into a single game. It’s simultaneously so infantile that only the most shameless weeb can withstand it, while also being so needlessly convoluted and up its own ass that you need hours of YouTube videos to make sense of it.
Gameplay-wise it’s very good for a ARPG. Kind of floaty and button-mashy but in a good way. Also the gummy ship levels are super fun in my (perhaps unpopular) opinion. I wish they made a full game of that.
Gameplay-wise it’s very good for a ARPG. Kind of floaty and button-mashy but in a good way. Also the gummy ship levels are super fun in my (perhaps unpopular) opinion. I wish they made a full game of that.
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killatopak
Member
Gameplay is S+
It’s like PG13 versions on DMC RPG.
It’s like PG13 versions on DMC RPG.
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
My deepest condolences.
If you’re an adult and somehow manage to get through all of it, I have news for you: you’re a weeb, my friend.
If you’re an adult and somehow manage to get through all of it, I have news for you: you’re a weeb, my friend.
Cert.in.Death
Member
Weebs rejoice!
Good luck to you. I advise only playing the mainline entries, but I would have also told you to not bother purchasing KH games at this point.
Good luck to you. I advise only playing the mainline entries, but I would have also told you to not bother purchasing KH games at this point.
Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
No offence to people who like these, but these games are just not for me, fever dream crossover weeb heaven.
Whatever floats your boat, NeoGAF takes all sorts (clearly)
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Draugoth
knows the deal, so funny 
, I love the charm but just couldn't have these on my trophy list.
Whatever floats your boat, NeoGAF takes all sorts (clearly)
edit: see,
Draugoth
knows the deal, so funny , I love the charm but just couldn't have these on my trophy list.
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Draugoth
Gold Member
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DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Lol I remember playing KH1 in front of my roommates. There was some part where Sora is like “I don’t need a Keyblade, I have something that’s even more powerful….. MY HEART!!!”
Good lord, almost injured my ball sack from cringing so hard. Be sure to play this game in private. Treat it like a pornographic visual novel.
Hugare
Member
KH 1 looks and feels old. I couldnt finish it.
Chain of Memories kind of sucks. Loved on the GBA, but the PS2 version doesnt work with the card based battle system.
KH 2 doesnt look or feel old, and its an amazing game. Just dont bother paying atention to the story.
KH 3 is eh, but looks gorgeous. If you finish 2, go for it.
It's a very uneven series, imo
Skifi28
Member
Still better than being a furry, so that's nice.
Kev Kev
Member
The first one was great, although it hasn't aged super well (comes off a bit simple), but the rest became plagued with JRPG tropes, linearity and bland level design. The story was always batshit, and only became more batshit.
So I'd say your in for awild mild ride that only gets worse with each new game.
So I'd say your in for a
Draugoth
Gold Member
The game's dialogue feels like some edgy cringe Final Fantasy teenager early 2000's OC and it's glorious.
Nankatsu
Gold Member
Lol, this is gold.
Glad I played most of the series when I was a kid.
Huhehuheha means heart.
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Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
lovetalkgames
Banned
KH2 Final Mix is a great game all its own.
lostinblue
Banned
Kingdom Hearts sucks.
Built like disneyland, it leans on good artistic direction from films and such "playing homage"... And that's virtually everything it does semi-well. The fanservice can be great, the moment you get back to Kingdom Hearts characters and world it sucks.
Gameplay was always shit, as is the story. But it has managed to out-worse itself in a Nomura retcon self-masturbation effort.
It was closest to being good with KH2.
Music is good.
Built like disneyland, it leans on good artistic direction from films and such "playing homage"... And that's virtually everything it does semi-well. The fanservice can be great, the moment you get back to Kingdom Hearts characters and world it sucks.
Gameplay was always shit, as is the story. But it has managed to out-worse itself in a Nomura retcon self-masturbation effort.
It was closest to being good with KH2.
Music is good.
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hemo memo
Gold Member
Boy are you for an insane experience. Action RPG to a different RPG to card system to Pokémon. You are in for a wild amazing ride.
NewChoppa
Banned
I dunno man, KH2FM is probably one of the most fluid and tight action RPG's I've played. KH1 def feels dated and KH3 is oddly floaty though (and I never really liked the BBS style of combat either)
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RoboFu
One of the green rats
I am a huge disney fan.. bought the very first one on playstation.. played about half way and never touched it again...
bought KH3 on sale not too long ago. play up to after the Hercules area and never touched it again...
I just do not see anything good about this series.
bought KH3 on sale not too long ago. play up to after the Hercules area and never touched it again...
I just do not see anything good about this series.
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hemo memo
Gold Member
TheDrunkenMerchant
Member
Heed my advice:
1. Play Kingdom Hearts 1
2. Watch the Chain of Memories cutscenes
3. Play Kingdom Hearts 2
4. Done
Don't play anything else. That is the entire series. No other games exist.
1. Play Kingdom Hearts 1
2. Watch the Chain of Memories cutscenes
3. Play Kingdom Hearts 2
4. Done
Don't play anything else. That is the entire series. No other games exist.
LordCBH
Member
What’re you in for? Honestly a mostly wild ride that’s sometimes weird, a lot of times awesome, and most of the time incoherent. Tip for when you get to 3, play on hard. It’s the easiest in the series. If you think you’re up to it you can jump into critical, but hard is where I’d say most should play the first run.
Nautilus
Banned
an incredible and one of a kind experience.
Nautilus
Banned
MAtgS
Member
Well, play 2 before Days. Not that you can play Days because it's just cutscenes.
cash_longfellow
Gold Member
30 hours of cutscenes in KH3
hemo memo
Gold Member
Sp you are asking him to skip the best game in the series? (Birth by Sleep)
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
If you ever need a good laugh, go to a KH message board and post a message about how the plot is too complicated to understand, or tell them that something is a “plot hole”. Then sit back and watch all the crazy shit people say to try to help you understand what’s going on. You will feel like you have brain damage.
lovetalkgames
Banned
The artistic direction isn’t even what’s particularly good about KH, if you’re limiting it to one thing.
Good job speaking on a game you clearly have not played.
mortal
Gold Member
I get hardcore KH fans to love that convoluted shit, but if the narratives in these games were stripped down/more straightforward, these games would've been considerably more enjoyable imo
It's the type of stuff that seems deep when you were a kid but eventually grow past once you're exposed to better writing and storytelling.
It's the type of stuff that seems deep when you were a kid but eventually grow past once you're exposed to better writing and storytelling.
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Shifty
Member
Look at those passive-aggressive triggered reactions all the way down the thread.
Ezekiel_
would be proud.
Also
JokerMM
, play KH2 on Critical mode. That's what makes it the best action RPG ever - ultra tight game balance that makes most other entries in the genre look like a mushy grey mess by comparison.
3's Critical is decent though doesn't hit the same heights, and 1 doesn't quite have the mechanics to justify it imo.
And forget it for all the other entries - for whatever ass-backwards reason, they decided to scrap perfection and replace it with a more traditional "weaker player stronger enemies" approach, so it's not worth it.
...It was for research purposes! Slaying the nostalgia white whale! She said she was legal your honour!
Ezekiel_
would be proud.Also
JokerMM
, play KH2 on Critical mode. That's what makes it the best action RPG ever - ultra tight game balance that makes most other entries in the genre look like a mushy grey mess by comparison.3's Critical is decent though doesn't hit the same heights, and 1 doesn't quite have the mechanics to justify it imo.
And forget it for all the other entries - for whatever ass-backwards reason, they decided to scrap perfection and replace it with a more traditional "weaker player stronger enemies" approach, so it's not worth it.
No shut up, it doesn't count if you spent most of it taking the piss or complaining to yourself as the plot gradually goes off the edge.
...It was for research purposes! Slaying the nostalgia white whale! She said she was legal your honour!
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Werewolf Jones
Gold Member
I only wanna play Birth by Sleep then bounce.
lostinblue
Banned
The issue is that I've played through most of them and I still have that opinion.
Trust me I tried. KH2 is the game that came closest to being passable.
CuNi
Member
Suffers from the same issue like Mass Effect.
I loved all the games up until 3 where it feels like they stripped away all the fight mechanics and replaced them with a "Smash" to win Button as well as switching from a Disney look to more of a Pixar/Realistic artstyle which I feel also hurt the series more than it did good to it.
With how the Trailer for KH4 looked, I'm also very disappointed in KH slowly turning into a FF15/Tactics reboot just under a different Name.
I loved all the games up until 3 where it feels like they stripped away all the fight mechanics and replaced them with a "Smash" to win Button as well as switching from a Disney look to more of a Pixar/Realistic artstyle which I feel also hurt the series more than it did good to it.
With how the Trailer for KH4 looked, I'm also very disappointed in KH slowly turning into a FF15/Tactics reboot just under a different Name.
Tams
Member
What in the flying fuck is this game?
This all makes perfect sense to someone, and that disturbs me.
It's kind of like a lot of K-Pop and even quite a lot of anime fans. Comic book fans too.* A lot of young adolescent reasoning and emotion, just some never really seem to grow out of it.
*For whatever reason manga and cartoon fans seem to take themselves less seriously.
Javthusiast
Banned
Convoluted story and terrible character action game that people try to sell as good. Combat didn't feel good in any of the games including KH3. Floaty, clunky, nowhere near as tight and responsive as Devil May Cry, Nier A, Revengeance, Bayonetta etc. Not even close to FF7R in feel and hits feedback.
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hemo memo
Gold Member
Also not as good as Elden Ring combat. I mean if you are going to compare games ridiculously why not go all the way.