TetraGenesis
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Isn't it crazy that people try to downplay those moments as if they weren't huge?
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Sony's Gamescom Media Briefing On "Release Plans for PlayStation 4"
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Isn't it crazy that people try to downplay those moments as if they weren't huge?
Iacobellis
Junior Member
The template is sooooooo much better than the one from E3 2005. I think it's also the same one used for the presentation Cerny gave at Barcelona Gamelab.
So they did consider blocking used games at some point between the Bone reveal and E3?
Live Free or Die
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Does anyone know the HDD specs the PS4 uses?
Iacobellis
Junior Member
I had the honor of being in attendance. Videos don't do justice to how crazy it was.
Live Free or Die
Banned
500GB 5400 RPM 2.5" drive, I think.
PS4 is said to only support SATA II.
Oh ok, thanks. I was wondering about the SATA.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
Yeah, I'm not sure how much of a benefit using an SSD will be.
Zombie James
Banned
Well, when you have one company attacking consumer rights every way they can and then another company comes along and says they're going to do the complete opposite and for a cheaper price, what would you expect? It was a home run.
why are we acting like its still huge when its been void by recent MS announcements though?
Not even close. MS made themselves into an laughably easy target, that's all.
MS dropped the price to $400? News to me.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
We are almost there, ladies and gentlemen.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Is the MS conference before or after the Sony one?
Dont think there is an MS conference
famousmortimer
Banned
There's an interview with Boyes somewhere... Giantbomb maybe? I forget. But he said he was in a meeting with Tretton when his twitter started blowing up. He said something along the lines of "Microsoft is here, and we are leaning towards this and clearly this is what gamers want - let's lock it in." So they pretty much decided that night.
I don't think we would have DRM if we didn't do anything. Sony was already heading that way (which is what I said in my original OP). But it atleast helped them realize it was a good idea and it definitely got the media attention over the course of a few weeks that made that segment of E3 a knockout blow.
Sony should give us some money for that.
TetraGenesis
Member
Because the moment was still huge. It was impactful. I'm talking about moments and impacts here, people! Nebulous things!
Yup, I think there is an event but it won't be streamed.
Krusenstern
Banned
Show games, not suits.
Yep the reveal was like a parody in itself.
I was genuinely excited to see what they had to show. "xbox one" was just weird, and the whole sports tv sports tv made the whole experience feel like it wasn't aimed at me...at all.
And then the aftermath....my god....just so confusing.
But Microsoft do seem to be making a good recovery. If it turns out good I might end up with an xbox one in a couple of years and catch up on some of the games.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
Ahem, they aren't suits! Microsoft on the other hand...
RealityPales
Member
I get more useful industry insight from you than Kotaku, Polygon and IGN combined Mort.
Live Free or Die
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I wish someone could remake this commercial with PS4 footage. http://youtu.be/HAtwp5HmkXo
Iacobellis
Junior Member
HOLD UP? PS3 was already $200 cheaper a year after launch?
TetraGenesis
Member
Without the Rebellion, that shit certainly would not have hit as hard at the conference. That's for sure. People were all riled and upset and loud, meanwhile every journalist and analyst said Sony would have some form of DRM. That contributed significantly to the impact of that moment.
chicagocubsfan
Member
I mean all it did was make one company totally change what direction they were going in. So it still was a huge moment.
Why are you acting like the recent MS announcements weren't triggered by Sony's announcements and the response they got? How does that make the latter void when MS's policy reversals likely wouldn't have happened otherwise? If anything, that just adds to their weight.
When you consider what people feared at the time was potentially on the line, the reaction makes sense. Like I said earlier, Sony should thank the guys in green for giving them such an opportunity to capitalize on something that's such a basic expectation in an industry for over three decades by now.
Talking about purely within that moment, it was a massive bombshell. There's no disputing that much. Hell, for comparison's sake the Twilight Princess E3 reactions nowadays seem hilarious given how lukewarm some reactions are toward the game. Didn't stop it from being a defining E3 moment regardless.
Add to that the resultant fallout seen in the MS camp over the past few months just solidifies the immensity of that moment in Sony's E3 all that much more.
it makes it void because MS reversed their policies?
And they did that because?
Free publicity is best publicity
Iacobellis
Junior Member
It will still be fun to look back on years from now when this generation is coming to an end.
500GB 5400 RPM 2.5" drive, I think.
PS4 is said to only support SATA II.
Only SATA 2? Guess I'll just get a large mechanical drive, then.
dragonbane
Member
Companies are stupid though. Many of them. MS was an easy target, but considering Sony's past they could have easily fucked it up as well by giving in to the publishers like every journalist expected to happen. Or fail to capitalize on MS's mistakes by not saying anything at the conference at all (Sony likes doing that). Many people were genuinely shocked Sony went the way they did, even veterans like Adam Sessler.
And you think MS would have done so if that all hadn't happened and gamers didn't respond to Sony's decision the way they did?
famousmortimer
Banned
Wow. Thanks. I don't think that's true but I appreciate it.
Mistwalker
Member
Been voided by?
Every single recent MS announcement has been made because of that moment. People can rightfully say it was huge because it set the direction for this generation, and those MS announcements? Those are Microsoft being forced to turn in that direction.
Like others have said, that moment isn't voided by any announcements, the word you're looking for is validated.
bigboss370
Member
GAF > all of the above.
That moment completely changed the course of console history. You think we'd be in the same place we are right now if they went with MS on the DRM front? Just because MS realized they fucked up doesn't make the moment any less important to the industry.
demosthenes
Member
Don't expect the ND game until the VGA awarda.
Black Republican
Member
What game announcements is everyone waiting for?
famousmortimer
Banned
Yeah, the only thing I can be certain of that we did was taking it from a niche issue to a mainstream issue. We got covered in over 200 publications, including the wall street journal and NBC News. It turned the issue from something that some loosely connected bitching from enthusiasts to a problem that became the focal point of the entire industry.
Whether we actually changed minds - I have no clue. But I do know we atleast succeeded in making it a big topic. And sony pounced on it, to their credit. Microsoft didn't and then the preorder sales showed them that they were wrong. One of the coolest things I was ever a part of. It's just videogames... a hobby - but man, that was a lot of fun. The happy ending helped, of course.
No, not that kind. Perverts.
dragonbane
Member
Most of the pre-orders were made that night. People don't flip-flop that easily, especially since price difference is still there. PR was so bad that even casuals applauded Sony during Jimmy Fallon. People like that likely don't know about MS's reversals, they just remember hearing from their friends that Sony whooped MS's ass and MS doing bad things. On top of that price difference is the thing that matters most for them.
So while the reversals will help MS a big deal in the long run, the bad PR is still hurting them.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
Damn, I didn't even think of it that way until I read the final sentence.
Nope MS's reaction actually solidifies why it was such an epic moment
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
Whoa, hold up the Sony conference is being downplayed? What?
It was like one voice in which everyone practically announced we don't want your shit, MS.
It was an amazing moment.
MS has done nothing but to try to combat bad press after bad press, and when the numbers had them destroyed in preorders they have been trying to reverse that horsecrap they were trying to forcible spoon feed the gaming public since the One's introduction.
The one-two punch knockout of not forcing anti-used DRM and being a $100 cheaper was just fantastic.
It was like one voice in which everyone practically announced we don't want your shit, MS.
It was an amazing moment.
MS has done nothing but to try to combat bad press after bad press, and when the numbers had them destroyed in preorders they have been trying to reverse that horsecrap they were trying to forcible spoon feed the gaming public since the One's introduction.
The one-two punch knockout of not forcing anti-used DRM and being a $100 cheaper was just fantastic.
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