Iacobellis
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Why would it be moving? All they did was what Sony promised at E3.
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Sony's Gamescom Media Briefing On "Release Plans for PlayStation 4"
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Why would it be moving? All they did was what Sony promised at E3.
Hey, it's up to you if you wanna try to downplay everything with sarcasm, but don't pretend it wasn't a moment that basically set course for the industry.
And for what it's worth, hell MS announcing that DRM reversal was fucking huge. I don't think anyone really believed that MS would just throw it all out the window like that, especially not that quickly. I don't think I've ever seen MS so reactive before in my life.
thank you
Why are you shitting up the thread up with this? Take your agenda elsewhere.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
Thank you? I'm not on your side. I think Sony's presser was a very important move this generation and radically changed how Microsoft's console will be perceived.
dragonbane
Member
You clearly have no idea how this works.
Don't think he agrees with you lol
DidntKnowJack
Member
Because one wouldn't have happened if the other didn't first. Or at least started them down that road.
Oh, you mean that moment MS started acting all reactionary?
Krusenstern
Banned
Yes, the E3 NoDRM announcement was probably the best thing to happen this year. So, so many crows were eaten. So many people here on this board were wrong about Sony doing the same as Microsoft, so many journalists who said Sony will do the same.
All turned out to be wrong and ate some crow.
Never forget. So happy this happened.
All turned out to be wrong and ate some crow.
Never forget. So happy this happened.
OH come on, this is relatively tame compared to an xbone thread.
TacticalFox88
Banned
It was like Tretton and House announced World Peace!
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
Shitting in someone's cereal bowl for months and then turning around and saying "My bad. I didn't mean it." doesn't seem quite sincere and moving afterwards.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
The $500 price for the Xbox One also caught some off-guard. I love how Sony learned from the PS3 and has priced the Vita and PS4 competitively.
Fredrik
Member
This is exactly what Xbox gamers used to tell me last gen. Didn't belive them then. Don't believe you now.
Don't forget that Sony narrowed the gap between Xbox Live and PSN during last gen to the point that even hardcore Xbox fans started questioning why they keep on paying for Live when it's free and perfectly functional on PS3. Some people even stopped playing online on 360 and went online on PS3 instead.
And then came the loved PS4 presentation and PS+ online play paywall announcement. And now we're back on square one. Both Xbox fans and PS fans is starting to think it's okay to pay for online gaming again. Thanks Sony!
Because in the collective consciousness of those who cared, the damage was already done.
Most don't believe in the longevity of MS's "180 Moonwalk" sincerity...
Bingo
anywho my schedule just got freed up for tomorrow morning! stars are aligning lol
People are bitter about MS trying to fuck over consumers. I agree it's time to just see how things play out and move on, but why exactly are you bitter about Sony doing everything right?
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Deleted member 80556
Unconfirmed Member
4chan gives Gaben and Kojima birthday gifts, we protect gaming rights for an entire generation. Top that!
You promise if I go through your post history, I won't find you moved or excited by any particular company's announcements then?
as others have said, we're making a hoopla over status quo with online paywall.
travisbickle
Member
What's with the meltdown?
Gamescom hasn't started yet!
Gamescom hasn't started yet!
Feels like we're dangerously approaching thread whining territory here.
"But people are so mean to my favorite corporation in other threads! Why do they get to be nice to a different one in another thread?"
I seem to recall some discussion about E3 in and of itself. Then folks got offended that Sony isn't getting equal parts shit as Microsoft, and started this whole strand of nonsense.
Please stop. Nothing about that moment was "status quo" considering everyone was worried Sony was going to follow down the same path as MS and they didn't.
please do, i'll help you
famousmortimer
Banned
*cashes check from Phil Spencer*
maniac-kun
Member
What i hope for is a October release of the PS4 and something new on The Last Guardian.
supaflyryguy
Member
The Last Guardian is a longshot PERIOD, but especially at Gamescom with TGS looming. If we see it anywhere in 2013, it'll be at TGS.
HORRORSHØW
Member
famousmortimer
Banned
This is exactly what Xbox gamers used to tell me last gen. Didn't belive them then. Don't believe you now.
Don't forget that Sony narrowed the gap between Xbox Live and PSN during last gen to the point that even hardcore Xbox fans started questioning why they keep on paying for Live when it's free and perfectly functional on PS3. Some people even stopped playing online on 360 and went online on PS3 instead.
And then came the loved PS4 presentation and PS+ online play paywall announcement. And now we're back on square one. Both Xbox fans and PS fans is starting to think it's okay to pay for online gaming again. Thanks Sony!
I agree with this. I have a hard time mustering up much anger about it because I've had PS+ since it launched and would have it anyway... but on an intellectual level I just do not agree with paying for online play. Especially since it is monetized in so many other ways already. We get ads, we get DLC, we get to buy games straight from them which makes them more money, we buy games in the first place because they have an online mode we want... to charge to play online sucks.
I just don't have any anger left. But intellectually i'm right there with you.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
This is exactly what Xbox gamers used to tell me last gen. Didn't belive them then. Don't believe you now.
Don't forget that Sony narrowed the gap between Xbox Live and PSN during last gen to the point that even hardcore Xbox fans started questioning why they keep on paying for Live when it's free and perfectly functional on PS3. Some people even stopped playing online on 360 and went online on PS3 instead.
And then came the loved PS4 presentation and PS+ online play paywall announcement. And now we're back on square one. Both Xbox fans and PS fans is starting to think it's okay to pay for online gaming again. Thanks Sony!
So you're upset that Sony is letting you pay less than Microsoft and get free games that aren't over five years old? Blasphemy!
This is exactly what Xbox gamers used to tell me last gen. Didn't belive them then. Don't believe you now.
Don't forget that Sony narrowed the gap between Xbox Live and PSN during last gen to the point that even hardcore Xbox fans started questioning why they keep on paying for Live when it's free and perfectly functional on PS3. Some people even stopped playing online on 360 and went online on PS3 instead.
And then came the loved PS4 presentation and PS+ online play paywall announcement. And now we're back on square one. Both Xbox fans and PS fans is starting to think it's okay to pay for online gaming again. Thanks Sony!
Which is why my beloved PC gaming will always be there and will never let me down
You arent really going to waste your time doing that, are you?..
DidntKnowJack
Member
I can't really get too upset over the PS Plus paywall thing because as a gamer who buys stuff regularly on PSN, the service always pays for itself with the discounts I get. I really can't say the same for any of the years I paid for XBL.
Sweet. Can I borrow your beloved PC games? Hell, I might even buy it from you
TetraGenesis
Member
Hahahahaha! *Wild electric guitar riff*
Iacobellis
Junior Member
This is how I feel. Why LIVE is still much more streamlined than PSN is on the PS3, the $60 is really starting to lose its value. Xbox LIVE used to beat the crap out of PSN for the good first half of this generation. I love having Plus on my Vita, the amount of free games and discounts is mind-blowing. Auto updates are also a nice perk.
EdReedFan20
Member
I know that some people seem underwhelmed by Knack. I personally think it looks like a perfect family friendly game, reminiscent of the old mascot games. Having said that, it really would be awesome to have a boxed copy of Knack packed in with every PS4 purchase (with the price staying where it is). It would be just like the old Nintendo days with SMB/SMW being packed into every NES/SNES or Sega systems with Sonic.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
Hey, I like Knack!
The little guy (or big guy in some cases) has personality.
The little guy (or big guy in some cases) has personality.
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
So what time (EST) is this briefing or presser tomorrow and where to stream?
Didn't see anything in the OP.
Didn't see anything in the OP.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
Maybe the first million units or so? Sony did that with a Spider-Man 2 UMD for the PSP and a Talladega Nights Blu-Ray on the PS3.
HORRORSHØW
Member
1PM. OP needs to be updated, ASAP.
Very unlikely.PS4 is said to only support SATA II.
Krusenstern
Banned
No matter how you spin it, it's still a huge let-down that you have to pay to access multiplayer. It was free on PS3, it's free on PC, and I see no reason to pay for PS+ only to access multiplayer. No matter how many free games I get. If someone only wants to play online multiplayer and isn't interested in game rentals or discounts, it simply sucks for him. I personally spend 200+ hours of Dark Souls on PS3. Always connected. I did a lot of PvP fights, summoned help etc. Dark Souls was already an exception because I usually don't play online multiplayer. I'm not sure if I would have played online if I had to pay for online access for a single game. Fortunately I have a good gaming PC and will be able to play online games for free. Nevertheless there is no denying that this paywall will be a pain in the butt for a lot of gamers.
TetraGenesis
Member
It's great to see the majority of people coming together here being reasonable!
Sony's E3 was a big deal. Regardless of what naysayers think, the public response and preorder numbers speak volumes more than, "It wasn't a big deal. Status Quo! Etc etc"
You don't have to like the company, policies, or announcements to agree that it had a significant impact.