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Sources: MLB and Players' Union agree to use dugout signal for intentional walk
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valkillmore
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I don't watch a lot of baseball but this seems like a good thing.
yongeandcollege
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Disagree with this change. Wild pitches, balks do happen on pitch outs and sometimes it seems to mess with a pitcher's rhythm.
DontBeThatGuy
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Should've happened a long ass time ago.
GhostWriter24
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I don't mind.
The_Inquisitor
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This eliminates the often hilarious "not 4 pitch walk" where the pitcher accidentally throw the ball to the backstop and the run scores. Still, I am okay with eliminating this.
Frozenprince
Banned
Eh. Anything that removes a potential play on the field shouldn't be changed. We've seen guys swat at one and get on base before.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
You're not really saving much time with this rule (unless Bonds unretires and plays again), and depriving fans of the 1% chance of shenanigans due to a pitcher meltdown.
It doesn't speed up the game for one. Second, some pitchers can throw for shit when four fingers are up:
it isn't.
it wasn't something that took much time, and there are plenty of cases where the pitcher screwed up and either threw the ball away, or threw it to close and a batter hit it anyways.
It also removes any chance a player can steal from second to third on a slow intentional walk.
Sho_Nuff82
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This seems...dumb.
What's next? NBA teams don't have to defend the late game inbound and intentionally foul, instead just signal to the ref and send the other team to the FT line?
What's next? NBA teams don't have to defend the late game inbound and intentionally foul, instead just signal to the ref and send the other team to the FT line?
Frozenprince
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It's literally twenty seconds at most they are saving by this
Maybe condense commercial breaks between innings and make them more concentrated but that would take ad money away so that's a no.
I just don't think there is all that big an issue with game length to begin with. Football games are just as long and have even MORE downtime than a baseball game and nobody complains there.
Maybe condense commercial breaks between innings and make them more concentrated but that would take ad money away so that's a no.
I just don't think there is all that big an issue with game length to begin with. Football games are just as long and have even MORE downtime than a baseball game and nobody complains there.
Seriously
MLB needs to start accepting baseball will always be a slow ass sport, and maybe that's why people like it. Making up dumb rules that affects potential plays and actually don't save any time is just stupid.
Give it time. If viewership ever starts dropping they'll start trying to speed it up too.
Don't like it. Part of the atmosphere is from the crowd booing their best player being walked / confirming the pitching teams fear of that player getting a chance to back, leaves an impression with both the players and the fans that affects things next time they're up to bat.
Frozenprince
Banned
It's not even that slow. On average there's more game impacting action than an NFL game (where there is only 12 minutes of actual game being played).
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
This is dumb. It saves what a couple of seconds during a at-bat. Who would have guessed we would be missing Bud Selig.
PROh1bited
Banned
Absolutely stupid.
theepicoftyler
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Skipping something that doesn't happen all that often (often times doesn't even happen once in a game) isn't a real pace of play improvement. Limit mound visits, implement a pitch clock, enforce keeping the batter in the batters box and you'll see the length of games decrease drastically.
I am a lifetime diehard Cubs fan, but that playoff run was full of some overly long games. Wilson Contreras tried to kill everyone in Chicago by making those games that long with mound visits.
I am a lifetime diehard Cubs fan, but that playoff run was full of some overly long games. Wilson Contreras tried to kill everyone in Chicago by making those games that long with mound visits.
Frozenprince
Banned
National numbers are down but regional numbers are the highest they've ever been.
Frozenprince
Banned
DontBeThatGuy
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Once in a blue moon is more apt descriptor. I've certainly never seen it the times I've watched a game, and very rarely when I actually played baseball in school, and most of those pitchers were shit. (not including myself of course)
It looks silly and no one will actually miss it after the initial backlash.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Game time is already feasible.
Thank god they didn't add in that stupid extra inning rule.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
If Octavio Dotel was still playing he'd be all for this rule!
Also, obligatory:
This only saves like 15-30 seconds a game at best. Intentional walks aren't a major part of the game these days. You see what, 40-50 max over the course of a season for a given team?
Also, obligatory:
Yes, I'm aware Posey was thrown at soon after. 
SF still won that series though!
SF still won that series though!This only saves like 15-30 seconds a game at best. Intentional walks aren't a major part of the game these days. You see what, 40-50 max over the course of a season for a given team?
Frozenprince
Banned
I'll never understand the pitch clock stuff.
Adding a clock to baseball is the worst idea I've ever heard. It's not baseball anymore.
Adding a clock to baseball is the worst idea I've ever heard. It's not baseball anymore.
mightynine
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Always thought it should be one intentional ball to signal an intentional walk. Still allows for the pitcher to screw up, but still speeds up the process.
DontBeThatGuy
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Boooo!
Never forget
I did this quite a few times when I still played mens softball, and it usually went over the fence. lol. (never in baseball though)
Gotta save that extra 30 seconds!
sigh. Fuck this rule. Less entertaining (no more embarrising the pitcher with boos etc.. or watching a wild pitch game ender on a IBB or a HR on a IBB attempt. ) and this does not do anything for the pace of play.
Mentioned this in the mlb thread, might as well bring it up here.
1. Eliminate pitcher warmups when they come into the game. No other sport stops a game and allows a player to warm up on the playing field. This is what bullpens are for. Its not needed period. Of course it won't be put in place. More time for commercials.
2. Actually enforce the batter stepping out of the box rule. I love that they implemented it but umpires have started becoming too lazy with it.
3. Shorten the inning breaks even more. They implemented a inning break clock a few years ago but it needs to be shorter. College and Minor League games have shorter half innings. Of course, more time for commercials. So wont happen.
4. Pitch Clock. It actually had a real affect in AAA. Don't know how it works with players on base though.
Whatever, 30 seconds saved every few games!....
Sigh. Fuck Manfred.
sigh. Fuck this rule. Less entertaining (no more embarrising the pitcher with boos etc.. or watching a wild pitch game ender on a IBB or a HR on a IBB attempt. ) and this does not do anything for the pace of play.
Mentioned this in the mlb thread, might as well bring it up here.
1. Eliminate pitcher warmups when they come into the game. No other sport stops a game and allows a player to warm up on the playing field. This is what bullpens are for. Its not needed period. Of course it won't be put in place. More time for commercials.
2. Actually enforce the batter stepping out of the box rule. I love that they implemented it but umpires have started becoming too lazy with it.
3. Shorten the inning breaks even more. They implemented a inning break clock a few years ago but it needs to be shorter. College and Minor League games have shorter half innings. Of course, more time for commercials. So wont happen.
4. Pitch Clock. It actually had a real affect in AAA. Don't know how it works with players on base though.
Whatever, 30 seconds saved every few games!....
Sigh. Fuck Manfred.
Earthbound64
Banned
Agreed.
theepicoftyler
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I'd kill myself if I had to watch Pedro Baez pitch every other day. That shit should not be allowed.
The best!
Seems silly to change the rule, if nothing else than for the opportunities like this gif alone!
GregLombardi
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Yeah but everyone's modern attention span is 0.5 milliseconds, so we can't have this.
This is my belief also
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Seriously. I can see the players union giving into this rather then that bullshit extra inning rule. I don't get it though it saves 10 seconds for something that sometimes happens. Just let it be.
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