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STEAM Announcements & Updates 2014 - To Next-Gen and Beyond!
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Keep same PC hardware for 8 years, buy 8 year old games for $5 each. EVEN CHEAPER!
The limited to 1000 tier isn't going to have an extra game, otherwise people would just buy the game rather than spend the extra for that tier (as I imagine it'll be a lot more expensive due to the limited-ness of it), it's more likely to be something along the lines of a physical object or exclusive access to something. Or maybe it'll be a limited to 1000 TF2 hat.
I know that prices varies from region to region, I still can't wrap my head around how many people think that an average rig is much less than $1000. I mean, c'mon people, that can't be true, or my understanding of average is way off.
That's the problem I have with these kind of arguments. Really, please raise your hand if you had your rig for 7-8 years without spending a dollar, or euro, or pound.
Anybody?!
I started from scratch 3 years ago and spent about $800. I'm still quite pleased with my performance.
8 year old games can be had for $2.50
The 1000 limited bundle isn't going to be worth buying for most people who only care about games, judging my Humble store's recent behavior. Best case scenario is that you get a bunch of new indie games that are currently high priced but will be heavily discounted in a month or two.
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Lol fuck that, I spend 300-400$ minimum on hardware a year. I spent like 600$ last year on a couple small upgrades.
Its not what game we get that matters. Its how cheaply we get them.
looks nice! It's a musou game of sorts, no?
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Nabs linked this DayZ vid to me last night, but it has to be posted here to. It's so damn creepy.
Someone even says it in the stream chat: this is some Dexter shit.
Someone even says it in the stream chat: this is some Dexter shit.
finished it on the Vita. it's a pretty fun game.
didn't really explore the higher difficulties though
I would never be satisfied with a computer that those low-to-medium cost builds produce.
I *try* to surf the price point for components right before it becomes absurd. There is a definite wall of diminishing returns at that point and parts beyond it seem to be targeted at people for whom price is no obstacle.
I usually end up with a rig that, scratch built. would have cost between $1500 and $1800, at least for the last decade or so.
But, yeah, I never buy a full rig, just upgrade as I go. Well I did buy a full set in 2007, but I was upgrading from a potato.
edit: oh, and for very personal reasons, I did buy a top of the line gaming laptop about a year and a half ago. Thing is aces, but stupid expensive and I don't think I'd do it again. I really love it though.
edit 2: of course I also buy all the goddamned consoles too eventually, because I have issues.
These 'you could be x for y cost compared to z' comparisons never factor in any real world scenarios.
At the start of last gen I put together a pc at a cost of £800 and to service it and keep it current spent £140 on a psu and £200 on a new graphics card as well as about £80 on hard drives. So say £1,200 in total.
Where as I've gone through 3 PS3's at a cost of £440, £350 and £250 a piece. So that's £1,040 on hardware.
Now this isn't a pc of a similar spec to a PS3 but as much as my wallet could afford at the time. Sure I've had components fail but they generally have much greater or lifetime warranties and are only an RMA away from getting replaced.
All in all it's two completely different markets.
At the start of last gen I put together a pc at a cost of £800 and to service it and keep it current spent £140 on a psu and £200 on a new graphics card as well as about £80 on hard drives. So say £1,200 in total.
Where as I've gone through 3 PS3's at a cost of £440, £350 and £250 a piece. So that's £1,040 on hardware.
Now this isn't a pc of a similar spec to a PS3 but as much as my wallet could afford at the time. Sure I've had components fail but they generally have much greater or lifetime warranties and are only an RMA away from getting replaced.
All in all it's two completely different markets.
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Crap. It didn't work.
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Yeah, I can't believe how they even copied the marine uniforms from Halo and the aliens are basically the Flood. Gearbox will always just be riding on Bungie's coattails.
Did you cut and paste the depotcache folder to a different drive? Did you dump the symbolic link to it in the root of the Steam folder and not in steamapps?
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I don't really need a tag, but I figured I'd get one to make people jealous. Is it working?
I think there's a bit of Starcraft in there too. It's shameless, really.
More_Badass
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Probably unlikely but I'd love to see XCom Enemy Unknown in a bundle
What is really pissing me off about modern consoles is that I think they are going to be a dead end for game lifespan.
What I mean is that they have the unfortunate combination of short HW lifespan and an increasingly complicated OS that will make future emulation a real problem. I'm worried that exclusives for the platforms are going to be hard to play in the future, especially on my already legally owned copies.
I think I'm going to hold off from buying into new consoles as long as I can. I already have a giant box full of original Xbox games that are destined to be garbage once my kit dies and are a pain in the ass to go and play right now anyways.
Meanwhile, I still have *all* of my favorite games from as far back as the mid 80s installed on my laptop and ready to run at a moment's notice.
That is worth the added cost of PC gaming for me - if there actually is any.
What I mean is that they have the unfortunate combination of short HW lifespan and an increasingly complicated OS that will make future emulation a real problem. I'm worried that exclusives for the platforms are going to be hard to play in the future, especially on my already legally owned copies.
I think I'm going to hold off from buying into new consoles as long as I can. I already have a giant box full of original Xbox games that are destined to be garbage once my kit dies and are a pain in the ass to go and play right now anyways.
Meanwhile, I still have *all* of my favorite games from as far back as the mid 80s installed on my laptop and ready to run at a moment's notice.
That is worth the added cost of PC gaming for me - if there actually is any.
Hahahaha. Well they did do the pc port. Maybe it's all a conspiracy? Maybe A:CM is just a reskin of their Halo port?
woo and indeed hoo
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EDIT - herp derp just found the setting :/. Please ignore, thanks.
wat
Reading the 'how many consoles did you go through this gen' thread a couple months ago was insane.
People would rebuy console 3-5 times consistently.
Holy shit!
afternoon delight
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I'd worry about it only if you care about temp bullshit features anyways i.e. Dead Space and Bioshock multiplayer components.
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all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Games which you can't pick on what are "free" and will stop being "free" once you stopped with PS+. Steam will still be there even in offline.
Would be nice if they put up the entire Xcom collection in the bundle. Especially since Amazon sneakingly upped the price in the EC games.
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Just stop there. My friend and I are midway through Chris' and Ada's (only one level done in hers out of curiousity) and our desire to play has dropped like a rock.
More_Badass
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I've had the same PS3 since 2009
Still on my launch core 360 and PS3.
PS3 is looking a bit shaky now though. Persona 5 might make me break down and get a new one.
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People go through like 2-3 consoles during a lifespan, what is going to make thier last PS3 magically last another 10 years for when they want to play Uncharted 2 in 2024?
I tried to beat it, but I was constantly dying to the humans, it was as if armor and health didn't matter.
My pacience finally ran out when the AI blocked some door and I couln't go through it.
Not a musuo game, its a rhythm game.
I wish there were more halo ripoffs, I kind of liked halo 3, surprisingly there aren't a lot of "halo killers" for such a popular franchise.
Blue Ninja
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I need this fucking game. Holy flying fuckballs.
A factor a lot of people seam to forget is that, say with a Xbox One, you're not buying $500 worth of electronics but about $300 worth and the rest on assembly fees, licenses, pattens and sometimes taxes ant that's not even taking in to account r&d costs or retailer percentage and distribution fees (though some BOM lists do go up and down unless you see what someone pays who knows exactly what sort of prices MS gets them at). If you're expecting that to last a long time with out some tlc and general maintenance you must be mad. Then again there's a great thread on here way back when involving a series of 360's and a 'wine cooler'.
For me replacing my PS3 so many times made sense as it is the only bluray player and the main streamer for the tv in the living room. Though when In Home Streaming rolls around it's going to be relegated to the bedroom.
Ravensmash
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Well it also doesn't take into account how prices fluctuate for console games at retail (especially here in the UK).
Sure, £30 and £40 is the norm for a PC and console game respectively, but games often crash in price here in a matter of weeks - it's definitely not as clear cut for either side as that chart makes out.
(not to mention all the other factors like trading in physical titles to subsidise future purchases like many do)
Both can be cheap and affordable.
That doesn't include anything you didn't buy from the steam store, right? So no bundles, no amazon, no gmg,gog etc, no retail, no gifts.
Highly inaccurate.
afternoon delight
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A facet I was not taking into account for sure. I haven't had a TV for almost ten years now so consoles are pretty much out-of-sight-out-of-mind for me. I forgot about their failure rates, or I've chosen to ignore that part of my brain after losing a 360 to red lighting and switching to PC.
No, I'm talking about the console HW itself dying and then the only place I can pick one up is ebay.
They aren't going to be making any more of them and they will continue to die off.
I don't think emulation is going to save us like it did with the ps2/gc and prior hardware. The HW is much more complicated now, and now we see new speed gains mostly from parallelization, not raw throughput speeds. Plus there is the console OS stuck in there now.
In 20 years playing Gears of War 2 might be extraordinarily difficult.
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