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Nintendo Switch 2 May Hit 4 Teraflops in Docked Mode; Will Be Clocked "Crazy Low" in Handheld Mode

According to rumors circulating online, NVIDIA wanted to get near 4 teraflops with the Nintendo Switch 2 in docked mode

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The Nintendo Switch 2 may be clocked higher than expected in docked mode but "crazy low" in handheld mode to achieve better battery life, according to rumors circulating online.


During the latest episode of the Broken Silicon podcast, Moore's Law is Dead, and The Phawks commented on the power of the next Nintendo console. According to Moore's Law is Dead, people at NVIDIA wanted the console to hit 4 teraflops in docked mode, and to achieve this, the console will supposedly be clocked much higher than expected.

That is pretty much the same power as the PS4 Pro. Sounds good(if true)

And it would obviously make sense for Nintendo to underclock the handheld mode to keep battery life and heat manageable.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Sounds fine to me, give as much docked power as possible. Don’t care about it as a handheld

 

[Wooxsvan]

the rumors have been for a while top end was ps4 pro. so maybe

Switch Next/2/NG/Whatever will use a custom SOC based of Orin. It's called T239 Drake.
It's existence was rumored ever since 2021 by known Nvidia leaker Kopite7kimi.

Leak: Switch 2 to use Orin T239 Nvidia Soc , PS4 and PS4 pro performance Without DLSS

this has been leaked long time ago, but it means it will have PS4 power in portable mode and PS4 pro docked this is without counting DLSS, and if nintendo uses enough Ram and UFS 3.1 or better storage it is going to be pretty close to current consoles CPU should have better performance than...

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[Portugeezer]

If that is the case, they should stick to 720p screen for handheld.

 

[Hudo]

I just want a new 3D Mario, man...

 

[winjer]

Here we go again with the TFLOPs....

 

[nosoynadie22]

4TF in docked mode means 2.5~3TF in portable mode?

 

[Sethbacca]

Nintendo Switch 2 May Hit 4 Teraflops in Docked Mode; Will Be Clocked "Crazy Low" in Handheld Mode

According to rumors circulating online, NVIDIA wanted to get near 4 teraflops with the Nintendo Switch 2 in docked mode

wccftech.com

That is pretty much the same power as the PS4 Pro. Sounds good(if true)

Plus DLSS and other modern amenities should mean it hits significantly harder than the pro ever could at least in docked mode. Nintendo never aims for photorealism in their first party games and favors an art style that compliments the power of their weaker systems, so first party games should be great at least

 

[SHA]

4TF can count Marios hair and add more haircuts.

 

[ultrazilla]

4TF in docked mode means 2.5~3TF in portable mode?

Doubtful as that would certainly impact heat and battery consumption. I think we'll basically get speeds for the Switch 2 handheld mode that were used for the OG Switch.

When docked, your Nintendo Switch can reach 1,020MHz on the CPU and 768 MHz on the GPU. But when you undock your console, the GPU speed drops to 307.2MHz. With Boost Mode enabled, the CPU speed can go up to 1,785MHz when docked, and the undocked GPU speed can reach 460MHz.Jun 30, 2023 Source: https://www.makeuseof.com/what-is-nintendo-switch-boost-mode/

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

As someone that never had a Nintendo console since the Gamecube i may buy the next Switch. A lot of stuff for me to play with both gens available (if the rumors about being BC are true)

 

[Cert.in.Death]

Where do I attach my truck nuts on the Switch 2?

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

4TF in docked mode means 2.5~3TF in portable mode?

No, more like 1TF max

 

[THE DUCK]

Doubtful as that would certainly impact heat and battery consumption. I think we'll basically get speeds for the Switch 2 handheld mode that were used for the OG Switch.

Less than half a Tflop? Not likely that low.

 

[tkscz]

No, more like 1TF max

If the rumored specs from MLiD are correct, at 700MHz in docked mode you're still looking at ~1.8 - 2TFs.

 

[Husky]

My assumption is that if a Nintendo specs rumor ends with ?!, it's probably false. My expectations are for the Switch 2's performance to match the Xbox Series X (in handheld mode, 6K screen).

 

[Wooxsvan]

My assumption is that if a Nintendo specs rumor ends with ?!, it's probably false. My expectations are for the Switch 2's performance to match the Xbox Series X (in handheld mode, 6K screen).

 

[Schmendrick]

My assumption is that if a Nintendo specs rumor ends with ?!, it's probably false. My expectations are for the Switch 2's performance to match the Xbox Series X (in handheld mode, 6K screen).

Did that sound funny in your head before you wrote it?

 

[SHA]

I could see how Mario gonna live for another millennia, soft toys could get more immerse for infinite amount of times.

 

[Husky]

Did that sound funny in your head before you wrote it?

Revisiting my post, I still find it funny

 

[Magic Carpet]

When is the best time to trade in the Switch 1 OLED for maximum Gamestop trade in credit?
I finished Mario vs Donkey Kong and I'm ready to retire the Switch 1.

 

[VolticArchangel]

Everyone ITT READ:

TFLOPS of a Polaris+Jaguar based x86 SoC, is NOT directly comparable to TFLOPS of an Ampere + ARM Cortex based ARM64 SoC.

There are architectural differences/gains, proprietary hardware and a host of other tech that makes early comparisons based off of rumours, pointless.

DF is going to milk this system's 3rd party output comparing with PS4 and Xbone, for sure.

 

[Deerock71]

If that is the case, they should stick to 720p screen for handheld.

If it saves on battery, I'm all for it. You don't hear any complaints about the 720p OLED screen.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Here we go again with the TFLOPs....

People never learn....

TF don't mean everything. In fact for gaming, they mean little. I'm a lot more interested in Switch 2's pixel fillrate, texture fillrate, geometry culling/rasterization, memory bandwidth, DLSS, the CPU especially....

All things way more important than teraflops.

 

[Tarin02543]

great as long as it does not generate heat

 

[SolidQ]

4TF in docked mode means 2.5~3TF in portable mode?

it's Ampere TF. so divide by 2

 

[MadchesterManc]

If that is the case, they should stick to 720p screen for handheld.

Probably be a waste to go higher, native res games in particular look fine on my Switch Lite screen. Hell even the Vita's 960x540 screen still looks crisp. I'd take another 720p screen if it means portable can get closer to docked visual & performance

 

[LordOfChaos]

In half precision, maybe.

1.8-2Tflops in FP32 me thinks

Same shit went down with the original Switch with some people thinking it was way more powerful than it was with FP16, which helps with GPU formats that can use it at double rate, but that might comprise of only 15% of a game.

 

[Badlucktroll]

Mario time!! Wah-hoo!!!!

 

[ManaByte]

Switch 2 launch with Metroid Prime 4, Black Ops 5, and Sea of Thieves.

 

[Flabagast]

If it matches Series S performance it would be perfect

 

[FalconPunch]

it's Ampere TF. so divide by 2

Yup, it's that dual issue trickery that never delivers 2 times performance in game.

 

[AV]

God I wish nobody ever invented that word.

 

[ReyBrujo]

Around PS4 CPU processing power for sure, but wouldn't put much hopes in anything about that. You don't want the console to be unplayable in handheld mode in comparison.

 

[kiphalfton]

So what you're saying, is it will still struggle with ports.

 

[Flabagast]

Probably be a waste to go higher, native res games in particular look fine on my Switch Lite screen. Hell even the Vita's 960x540 screen still looks crisp. I'd take another 720p screen if it means portable can get closer to docked visual & performance

don't agree at all, I have the OLED and even native res games seems pixellated to me, and I'm talking about the most beautiful games on the platform (Luigi's Mansion 3, Nier Automata).

A 1080p screen of the same size or slightly larger would be perfect

 

[Ozriel]

No, more like 1TF max

Even the M1 chips in the new iPads have > 1TF GPUs

 

[Ozriel]

So what you're saying, is it will still struggle with ports.

No? modern games are already running on the Steamdeck and ROG Ally. This should be more powerful than those.

 

[Mobilemofo]

Give it a 'performance mode' when undocked. Sorted.

 

[German Hops]

God I wish nobody ever invented that word.

It's far worse than the "bit" wars of the 1990s

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Should be able to get all the Series S releases, then. Not a bad thing at all.

 

[Hero_Select]

MLID is a terrible "source"

They just comment on any rumor.

 

[kiphalfton]

No? modern games are already running on the Steamdeck and ROG Ally. This should be more powerful than those.

Apples to oranges comparison there.

 

[efyu_lemonardo]

A significant power gap between handheld and docked would be a different proposition than the OG Switch.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Even the M1 chips in the new iPads have > 1TF GPUs

Using NVIDIA tflops?

 

[Sethbacca]

It's far worse than the "bit" wars of the 1990s

But can it top BLAST PROCESSING!!!!

 

[Ozriel]

Apples to oranges comparison there.

- You can run modern games on the Steamdeck, albeit at reduced settings

- Switch 2 should be quite comfortable be more powerful than the Deck, CPU and GPU wise. So It’s quite easy to imagine ports will come with no issue.

Seems fairly straightforward here

 

[AngelMuffin]

If that is the case, they should stick to 720p screen for handheld.

Right, I don’t need 1080p on an 8” screen. 720p is more than adequate at that screen size.

 

[Xellos]

I'd rather have 4-5 hour battery life than the best possible performance, so I'd be happy if this were the case. I like Steam Deck but the battery life is abysmal.

I don't believe 4TF docked though. I'm expecting 1-1.5 TF portable and 2-2.5 TF docked. Also I agree with those saying the TF number isn't everything, but I think it's fun to guess anyway.

 

[lestar]

ps4 pro power level + nvidia raytraicing + dlss3 = nintendo is come back to the graphics party