DeepEnigma
Gold Member
The FTC aren't the ones that do the uploading. It's the companies legal staffers that are responsible by certain deadlines.
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This has got to be the biggest leak in video game history, right?
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Jigsaah
Gold Member
Then why is everybody saying this is thanks to the FTC?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Narratives™
Jigsaah
Gold Member
So somebody at Xbox, basically uploaded their entire plan up to 2030....mistakenly. Who is responsible for reopening the document archive (i don't know the official name of the resource) to the public?
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kvltus lvlzvs
Banned
So, is this the same thing as the Azure leak, or did MS leak 38T of Azure data at the same time as the FTC game leak stuff happened?
diffusionx
Gold Member
Nvidia leak because it's the gift that keeps on giving. Every few months a game from that leak is announced officially.
ReBurn
Gold Member
Elder Legend
Banned
Not only that, it even confirmed a release date for next generation hardware which is 2028. Absolutely bonkers. Also, is the wording "Next Gen" the actual title of the next thing? Or is that a placeholder name? Because all of the names on here are official/final names of the consoles.
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Elder Legend
Banned
This could be a blessing in disguise and they could come up with different plans instead and throw in a curveball no one saw coming.
down.
Crispy Gamer
Member
Where's the email about them potentially exiting gaming by fiscal year 27 if certain projections aren't met?
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Because these people didn’t read the article and just assumed they knew what happened.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Whisper it....
...all this shit could kill the ABK deal.
...all this shit could kill the ABK deal.
Guerilla Munch
Member
if not the biggest, it's definitely the most disastrous leak ever
the brand is already on the ropes and these leaks reveal almost nothing but panic, nefarious corporate schemes, unsustainable gamepass costs, and cloud hardware that nobody wants or ever will want
just when i thought i couldn't loathe microsoft anymore i see 400 leak threads and none of them are anything to get excited about aside from the Fallout 3 remaster maybe
the brand is already on the ropes and these leaks reveal almost nothing but panic, nefarious corporate schemes, unsustainable gamepass costs, and cloud hardware that nobody wants or ever will want
just when i thought i couldn't loathe microsoft anymore i see 400 leak threads and none of them are anything to get excited about aside from the Fallout 3 remaster maybe
Jigsaah
Gold Member
The first person I saw who reported this was Destin Legare at like 2:30 in the morning today, CST. I don't recall whether he blamed the FTC or not, but given the fact that I came away from that video blaming the FTC....I'm pretty sure it came from him. Though I'm pretty sure it was most likely reported on twitter (X?) first. So given the timing of the Bloomberg article...this is fresher information.
DJ12
Member
Is it a leak if it comes from the source itself, surely that's just an PR release.
The state of Microsoft right now they might have done it to see if any of their ideas actually resonate with the console gaming population.
May as well find out no one gives a shit now than spend billions on r and d for something people don't want.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Gold Member
FWIW, 38 TB of private Azure data also got accidentally leaked today. Is it really plausible to say the FTC have a motive to leak that out as well?
Even if they did, it's a bit weird that only suddenly people want to hold leakers accountable.
The 10th-gen console plans sound kind of interesting, particularly that they're considering switching out to ARM. Which makes me wonder if Sony may be considering similar.
The mid-gen refresh hardware plans aren't quite as interesting though. And that new Series X looks like an elderly homecare appliance.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Somebody on their legal team uploaded the wrong files. Just like when somebody on Sony's legal team, uploaded the original marker files and not the photo copy versions. The FTC has nothing to do with who uploads and to where.
Jigsaah
Gold Member
Jesus Christ. Why is it necessary to upload this entire thing in the first place? Wouldn't it come out in court anyways?
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Gold Member
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Apparently it was being handled by their AI research team. Why? We probably won't ever know the truth to that.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Gold Member
They let their own AI upload their files? Damn, MS can't even trust their own tech.
Jigsaah
Gold Member
Ok, well since we have the information, might as well use it right? WTF 100 million Cloud users they are hoping for? Doesn't this go completely against what they argued in the FTC case?
Dr. Acid Avatar
Member
It's going down for sure as the stupidest leak in gaming history.
Crispy Gamer
Member
Yup there's just too much to parse throughWait is this real?If it is I gotta see it, ain't no way.
trent_the_gent
Banned
It's embarrassing more than anything else.
It shows that even they don't think they can dominate the gaming industry by being the best but rather they are going to dominate it by buying the best.
It shows that even they don't think they can dominate the gaming industry by being the best but rather they are going to dominate it by buying the best.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Gold Member
Fuuuuuuc I wish I could still access the docs. Hoping they've been archived. That's wild.
Crispy Gamer
Member
Microsoft May Exit Gaming Business If Game Pass Subscribers off Console Don't Increase Enough by 2027
Microsoft's Phil Spencer said in testimony that the company may exit its gaming business if GP subscribers off consoles don't increase a lot.
wccftech.com
Stare-Bear
Banned
Is it a leak if your own staff upload it?
Jigsaah
Gold Member
The legal team using AI? This is just too much. Why would they delegate some of their most sensitive information to AI?
Like I love AI, don't get me wrong. It draws fantastic titties. Makes cool logos. I even designed my own dragon born DnD character using AI. Handling a trillion dollar company's most guarded secrets?
No.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Gold Member
Microsoft May Exit Gaming Business If Game Pass Subscribers off Console Don't Increase Enough by 2027
Microsoft's Phil Spencer said in testimony that the company may exit its gaming business if GP subscribers off consoles don't increase a lot.
100 million? By 2027?
They might as well start drafting their exit speech.
Unknown Soldier
Member
Microsoft uploaded these things themselves
What are the odds any of this is real as opposed to being fakes which are meant to fool court observers and competitors?
trent_the_gent
Banned
The only way they could achieve that figure in this timeframe would be to put Gamepass on every platform imaginable, including their competitors platforms.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Ok fair enough, I didn’t see the exact order of events. It seemed like the unspoken assumption was that FTC was given these documents and then leaked them. Now we know that it was an error on MS’s part.
Crispy Gamer
Member
At least now the strategy makes sense and it's the reason they're so desperate for the purchase of Activision because their gaming business literally depends on it upping subs I think Phil has a mandate handed down to him
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DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
I have to think there’s no way these were fakes. There has to be some major consequences for providing the FTC with fraudulent, fabricated documents.
Unknown Soldier
Member
No, which is why this is suspicious
Jigsaah
Gold Member
I must be reading this graph/pie chart wrong from that article.
They want 100 millions subs with a VERY SIGNIFICANT portion being Cloud users....in 4 years? So....still this generation.
I'm not confident that they can pull this off. Ok take into consideration if they actually get ABK. That still wouldn't move the needle that significantly. What are they going to do? Get Candy Crush players to sub to gamepass?
100 million is insane. Sony doesn't even have that.
They want 100 millions subs with a VERY SIGNIFICANT portion being Cloud users....in 4 years? So....still this generation.
I'm not confident that they can pull this off. Ok take into consideration if they actually get ABK. That still wouldn't move the needle that significantly. What are they going to do? Get Candy Crush players to sub to gamepass?
100 million is insane. Sony doesn't even have that.
trent_the_gent
Banned
A huge chunk of their entire business is selling subs. Businesses of their size need to get into some sort of heavily cyclical model eventually because just selling "the product" will lead to stagnation.
Kilau
Member
Who is getting sued though?
ManaByte
Gold Member
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Gold Member
They aren't fake. MS could risk their business license by submitting false documents to the FTC in a legal investigation regarding a massive M&A.
At least, I'm assuming with high probability that's what they would risk having happen. Not worth it to lie about these things. They'd technically be lying to investors & shareholders as well, which is also massive.
Which is impossible because without massive structural changes, Sony & Nintendo won't let Game Pass on their platform...
...unless Microsoft were to buy up enough 3P publishers to then pressure Sony, Nintendo etc. to accept their terms in getting Game Pass or else risk losing access to all of those games
...But the funny thing is, Phil Spencer's the one who sold that roadmap to Satya Nadella, Brad Smith etc. in the first place. So, they're only going by the promises he made to them, to get this stuff done.
I imagine those guys don't have infinite patience; at some point they're going to demand some big results from Phil or kick him to the curb.
