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Hudo
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Time also named Adolf Hitler as person of the year in 1938 and Josef Stalin as person of the year in 1939 (and in 1942).Of all the personalities trying to make a better world, and they choose Taylor Swift.
Seriously, WTF is wrong with these morons at Time magazine.
They do know how to choose them.
winjer
Gold Member
That is a common misconception of the reasons why Time, at that era choose those people.
It was not to laude them as great people, but to display how dangerous they were.
The article inside was a damnation of Hitler and his politics.
But that was at a time, when Time had real professional journalists.
Today's selection of Taylor Swift is pathetic.
CrankyJay™
Member
haha, we always get the hitler discussion every year.
FunkMiller
Member
I genuinely think she's an excellent businesswoman, performer, singer songwriter and musician... but person of the year?
Should be one of the people slaughtered in the Hamas attack of October 7th. Maybe one of the babies. That might sharpen a few minds.
Should be one of the people slaughtered in the Hamas attack of October 7th. Maybe one of the babies. That might sharpen a few minds.
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Reizo Ryuu
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Hudo
Member
Fair enough. But my point still stands: These TIME "awards" or "nominations" don't really mean anything. They're just entertainment. So who gives a shit if it's Taylor Swift or whoever.
winjer
Gold Member
They used to matter.
That why why having Hitler as Time's Person of the Year, was so important back then.
But you are right it's just entertainment and mean nothing, but that is a recent thing, due to bad journalistic work.
And having Taylor Swift as Time's Person of the Year, only serve's to reinforce how meaningless this award has become.
diffusionx
Gold Member
As a TIME Person of the Year recipient in 2006, I welcome Taylor Swift to the club
Little Mac
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German Hops
GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief
Modern day Hitler.
I was sure it would be Elon... maybe Zelenskyy, Biden, Xi Jinping, Netanyahu, hell - even Putin!
Then I saw the cover and thought this must be some kind of a nonbinary virtual avatar generated by AI
But no, it is apparently some very successful pop singer
I must have heard her on the radio, but can't name a single song by her
Then I saw the cover and thought this must be some kind of a nonbinary virtual avatar generated by AI
But no, it is apparently some very successful pop singer
I must have heard her on the radio, but can't name a single song by her
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
What Taylor Swift, Football and Covid Have in Common
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www.bloomberg.com
It's all theater, you see.
Insane Metal
Member
Well. This tells a lot about the world we live in.
March Climber
Member
In all seriousness I feel like she was just shy of actually living up to the title. She had the entire music industry shaken up due to finding a loophole in owning all of her music. Her last move should have been creating her own music label(and using successful artists to promote it), or creating her own streaming/download platform as competition to the bigger industry leaders.
That would have really made a gigantic impact. Instead, she just fixed her own situation and left, making almost all of the music labels realize what just happened and tighten the chokehold on their contracts even further. Now when signing a music contract, no one is allowed to re-record anything after leaving a label, for an insane amount of time…like nearly a person’s entire lifetime in year count.
I’ll have to read up about the good she’s done, but from my limited perspective she kind of made things worse for everyone else in the music industry.
That would have really made a gigantic impact. Instead, she just fixed her own situation and left, making almost all of the music labels realize what just happened and tighten the chokehold on their contracts even further. Now when signing a music contract, no one is allowed to re-record anything after leaving a label, for an insane amount of time…like nearly a person’s entire lifetime in year count.
I’ll have to read up about the good she’s done, but from my limited perspective she kind of made things worse for everyone else in the music industry.
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NO PAIN TRANCE CONTINUE
It always did.
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NO PAIN TRANCE CONTINUE
Keep the masses happy/seduced. Works like a charm ie spell.
ReBurn
Gold Member
I sort of feel like anyone who places value in this particular trophy is highly susceptible to manipulation.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Dr.Morris79
Member
She's the best.
March Climber
Member
A lot of people ITT are doing just that by being so upset about it. I just consider it a fun means of discussion. I do think however that they should just make this a ‘person of the month’ title so that the public can have more moments to discuss multiple important/popular figures per year.
GutsOfThor
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Appropriate
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diffusionx
Gold Member
What was she supposed to do? Despite what some of her fans may think, she's not a witch and can't raise the person from the dead.
I really doubt she was the one who set water prices at the stadium.
ReBurn
Gold Member
I don't see any reason to care about it one way or the other. The award is designed to sell magazine subscriptions. Who wins it ultimately comes down to who will accomplish that goal, and the drama they generate around it feeds the hype. That's why dictators and political prosecutors made the shortlist. It's pandering to the extremes. It's kind of gross.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Gaslighting 101
Hugare
Member
From what I've heard, she didnt even say anything at the time. Only a few days later. Some people got really mad at her due to how she responded to the whole situation.
Dont know whats true tho, didnt bother to search for other info and etc.
Really dont like her music, so I dont have much to say about her
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
Where is Kanye when we need him?
March Climber
Member
For some reason lately people have been holding music artists accountable for issues not taking place on stage.
As far as I’ve seen, the venue itself along with venue security should be held accountable for these types of issues. The artist is usually just there to perform, not to assign seats, nor be in charge of temperature control, crowd control, accidents, fights, concessions, and disruptions.
phaedrus
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diffusionx
Gold Member
It's part of a broader problem with the millenial mindset, where they are literally unable to compartmentalize and see all these things as extensions of themselves.
March Climber
Member
I’ve never went into a ‘Person of the year’ conversation thinking that it is the most esteemed and respected moniker/title. This is just a magazine written by people with clear bias and/or with clear intention to catch attention. Much like The Game Awards, it can spark fun discussion.
When you have posters above not pleased with this pick and they’re bringing up other figures and modern events due to being disturbed or annoyed by the person on the cover, then I don’t think gaslighting is the right word to use here. I’m literally observing what you’re all typing.
You get it.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
You're still gaslighting. Keep going.
Most are poking fun, making jokes, or *gasp* having a discussion you so mentioned prior.
phaedrus
Member
I read somewhere that her songs are mostly diss tracks of her exes.
Any Swift simps here can confirm this?
HoodWinked
Member
Pretty appropriate choice. The person of the year selection isn't necessarily a judgement if the person is bad or good just that they got a shit load of attention. She's really blown up this year with the NFL drama, her tour is raking in millions, even her movie made over $200 million and she also became a billionaire.
The only other things they could have done is Hamas Fighters or Elon. As much as they probably wanted to do the first they would tank subs and as for Elon he was selected already not that long ago. Taylor Swift also a pretty easy cover to sell.
The only other things they could have done is Hamas Fighters or Elon. As much as they probably wanted to do the first they would tank subs and as for Elon he was selected already not that long ago. Taylor Swift also a pretty easy cover to sell.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
I appreciate Swift is a huge musical artist. Easily the biggest currently. However, I'm not convinced she's person of the year. Time try and justify it, but I'm still not convinced?
But this year, something shifted. To discuss her movements felt like discussing politics or the weather—a language spoken so widely it needed no context. She became the main character of the world.
If you’re skeptical, consider it: How many conversations did you have about Taylor Swift this year? How many times did you see a photo of her while scrolling on your phone? Were you one of the people who made a pilgrimage to a city where she played? Did you buy a ticket to her concert film? Did you double-tap an Instagram post, or laugh at a tweet, or click on a headline about her? Did you find yourself humming “Cruel Summer" while waiting in line at the grocery store? Did a friend confess that they watched clips of the Eras Tour night after night on TikTok?
This was the year she perfected her craft—not just with her music, but in her position as the master storyteller of the modern era. The world, in turn, watched, clicked, cried, danced, sang along, swooned, caravanned to stadiums and movie theaters, let her work soundtrack their lives.
But this year, something shifted. To discuss her movements felt like discussing politics or the weather—a language spoken so widely it needed no context. She became the main character of the world.
If you’re skeptical, consider it: How many conversations did you have about Taylor Swift this year? How many times did you see a photo of her while scrolling on your phone? Were you one of the people who made a pilgrimage to a city where she played? Did you buy a ticket to her concert film? Did you double-tap an Instagram post, or laugh at a tweet, or click on a headline about her? Did you find yourself humming “Cruel Summer" while waiting in line at the grocery store? Did a friend confess that they watched clips of the Eras Tour night after night on TikTok?
This was the year she perfected her craft—not just with her music, but in her position as the master storyteller of the modern era. The world, in turn, watched, clicked, cried, danced, sang along, swooned, caravanned to stadiums and movie theaters, let her work soundtrack their lives.
March Climber
Member
They aren’t all jokes, but sure I guess, call it whatever you want. I’ve read worse posts here about me so I guess being called a gaslighter isn’t that far down the list
Since we’re going back and forth though, what are your overall thoughts on Taylor Swift aside from this magazine cover?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Are you her publicist?They aren’t all jokes, but sure I guess, call it whatever you want. I’ve read worse posts here about me so I guess being called a gaslighter isn’t that far down the list
Since we’re going back and forth though, what are your overall thoughts on Taylor Swift aside from this magazine cover?
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
and Putin in 2007 and Trump in 2016. So yeah....checks out.
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