mansoor1980
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150 for a disc drive? no way
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Tom Henderson: New PS5 with detachable disc drive test kit in people's hands, "works flawlessly"
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Mibu no ookami
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You say this with the lens of having full knowledge of the pandemic.
PS5's design was almost certainly finalized before the pandemic even happened.
Rather than focus on releasing a SKU removing the drive the real aim here was to reduce weight and size as much as possible and create a PS5 slim model.
This model will likely be the model they push in Japan especially.
TheGodfather07
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But they already have a digital PS5 for £350, so how could they possibly justify releasing this new digital version for more? It would be like a price increase and a very bad move by Sony. The console and drive shouldn't be more then the cost of the disc console we have now.
Mibu no ookami
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Sometimes you don't sell products to sell, you sell them so that they're available.
150 represents the margin that they want to make on it due to the potential loss of sales in the digital storefront. That they are bundling it for 100 dollars suggests that separating it would be a minimum of 100 dollars, but they'll probably want a margin on the individual product. But it is also likely that they'll price it to not sell as they don't want people buying it in the first place.
They probably make about 5 dollars on games sold on a disc at full price vs 21 dollars for games sold on their storefront at full price.
Mibu no ookami
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You justify it by saying it's a slimmer model that required significant R&D to produce and that the new SKU reflects global inflation.
REDRZA MWS
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Exactly. Buy the disc version or save 100 and go digital. This doesn’t make sense.
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Banjo64
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It’s £389 now, and as a single unified SKU (instead of selling 2 separate SKUs) they can try and market it as £80 cheaper than the main model (£479).
I may be wrong and it could be £349, but the pricing of the VR2/Dualsense Pro tells me they want to sell hardware at premium prices. I hope it is £349.
Daniel_Mallorca1985
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Daniel_Mallorca1985
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Lucifers Beard
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Well, one has a disc drive, the other doesn't... See my avatar...
Fools idol
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this really is the final generation for physical games isn't it? I'm sad
I have collected physical games since 1991, going digital is going to put a big damper on the hobby of collecting for me.
I have collected physical games since 1991, going digital is going to put a big damper on the hobby of collecting for me.
Daniel_Mallorca1985
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crackajack
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I hardly ever used my PS4 disk drive, downloaded almost everything.
The only time I used a disc on my PC is to install Windows, and that easily can be done with a USB-stick if I needed to and did not already have the disk and the drive.
Disks are good if you are into used games and can't wait for games to drop their digital pices, otherwise they are a waste of my time, ressources and shelf space.
I'd rather have more storage, 2 or better 4TB, then a disk drive. That is an SKU that hopefully comes with this change too.
Perfect solution to make the future standard, and keep an accessory for those who are not ready yet.
The only time I used a disc on my PC is to install Windows, and that easily can be done with a USB-stick if I needed to and did not already have the disk and the drive.
Disks are good if you are into used games and can't wait for games to drop their digital pices, otherwise they are a waste of my time, ressources and shelf space.
I'd rather have more storage, 2 or better 4TB, then a disk drive. That is an SKU that hopefully comes with this change too.
Perfect solution to make the future standard, and keep an accessory for those who are not ready yet.
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
Please make it look beautiful. PS5 is hideous, I hate it and I hate how it looks in my set-up.
Sony is known for so many gorgeous, timeless designs. Look at this:
www.sony.com
Sony is known for so many gorgeous, timeless designs. Look at this:
Gallery / Sony Design
On this page you can see a wide range of products and services created by Sony designers. Please take a look at the history of Sony Design.
Team Andromeda
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If only SEGA went this way with it's Saturn and Jupiter plan
John Wick
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There should be no reason for Sony to charge more than $100. Probably $70-80 is fair with Sony making money on each drive too.
Nautilus
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Eh, better be optimistic rather than pessimistic. Even then, 150 dollars is overkill, especially since the PS5 is currently 500 dollars. It wont cost more than 100 dollars.
Badlucktroll
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Maybe Microsoft will follow suit and come out with a disc drive that sits atop the series s
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Flutta
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It’s basically a solution for Sony to save resources and time for every unit they make and also make more money in the process by selling these drives with a bigger margin. It’s a win win for them.
Sony is preparing for a digital only future. Enjoy!
DenchDeckard
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I think it makes sense, ita a good idea. I just feel there's some potentially dodgy business decision outside of the ease of producing one version. Like, Sony will hold back production of drives and make them crazy expensive or something so people are kinda forced to buy digital.
I just bought horizon forbidden west for 15 pounds brand new from tesco plus picked up a ps4 copy for the same price and traded it in for 25 so now I feel like I paid a fiver for horizon forbidden west, which is perfect for me becuase I just want to see it as a graphics benchmark. No way I'm completing it.
Don't want to be forced down digital with Sonys story games. I like trading them in after.
I just bought horizon forbidden west for 15 pounds brand new from tesco plus picked up a ps4 copy for the same price and traded it in for 25 so now I feel like I paid a fiver for horizon forbidden west, which is perfect for me becuase I just want to see it as a graphics benchmark. No way I'm completing it.
Don't want to be forced down digital with Sonys story games. I like trading them in after.
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MasterCornholio
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Probably not since they don't want to get on the retailers bad side with this.
kyliethicc
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actually I'd pay $50 more per game to not have to wipe my ass with a blu ray lol
In the future you will simply buy a game code from Walmart. Digital, retail.
Walmart doesn't give a shit if there's a blu ray inside the box.
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HeisenbergFX4
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SEGAvangelist
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My post when this news first broke was deleted for trolling, but I think I was correct in saying this is a soft US price hike. I think this new console goes for $499.
HeisenbergFX4
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I bet we see a price hike as well but my guess is $450 for the "base" PS5 and $49 for the disk drive
Topher
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How is $499 a price hike?
HeisenbergFX4
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$499 for the "digital" version then tack on a disk drive cost
Ronin_7
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Topher
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I just can't see that happening.
HeisenbergFX4
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I don't see $499 either but can see some sort of price hike for the new console
SEGAvangelist
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Because the current digital console is $399.
Gudji
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Topher
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I should know better, shouldn’t I?
Sucks I need constant reminders of who is running PlayStation these days.
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aclar00
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Im just one person and i buy disc unless there is no other option, but rarely if ever, have I seen the store cheaper than a disc, particularly for first party games.
i just checked for Demon Souls on the US store and its showing $70....Amazon showing $30. The disc will stay consistently cheaper througbout the year. PSN sales, while not rare in general, only put a set number of games on sale during each promotion. So often times the games you want, even if old, may not be on sale. On some ocassions disc and digital will match, but i cant think of digital ever actually being cheaper.
Just did a quick Death Stranding PS4 search and its $40 on PSN but $24 on Amazon. It was $10 on disc during Thanksgiving week.
DeepEnigma
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It would probably be the same price as the current DE. And the bundled option the same as the current disc version.
Probably a smaller form factor and more weight reduction as well.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
If that is the case, wonder if the BD add-on will be USB based or a separate plug-in port (on a new slimmer model) like how the Xboxes have a port for the SSD.
If it's the later it won't be viable for existing DE owners tho.
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Captain Toad
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Good to know it works flawlessly. Like we expected it to not work or something?
DeepEnigma
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It has high-speed USB ports in the back as well. The same high-speed as the USB-C in the front that will be used for PSVR2. Same speeds they use for Display Port on the PC.
Club 3D | USB C over ALT Mode
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It has high-speed USB ports in the back as well. The same high speed as the USB-C in the front that will be used for PSVR2. Same speeds they use for Display Port on the PC.
Club 3D | USB C over ALT Mode
www.club-3d.com
The BD drives on both consoles are very slow (my download speed is faster than the speed at which a game from disc is installed) so it perfectly makes sense.
if it's powered by the USB itself and doesn't require an external plug that makes it a much more viable and compact solution.
aclar00
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Man, i rather pay $20 less and change disc than to part ways with more of my money...but the younger gen def seems to like to pay more for convenience, thats for sure (not saying youre part of the younger gens). Then again, i usually stick to one game at a time for weeks, if not months on end sometimes.
I mean, if and when i order take out pizza i go and pick it up. Dont like extra delivery fees, let alones the extra fees Doordash and the like charge.
All in all, given the amount of games i purchase per year, id say i save on average $200 a year, upwards of $300.
SEGAvangelist
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I just can't see this happening. No way they drop the only SKU to $399 when the price went up in the other territories. We'll see soon enough, but I think it's much easier to just keep the price "the same" without the disc drive.
DeepEnigma
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All I said was that it would probably remain the same prices as the current models. That is not dropping the price.
But, you never know.
The ports in that mode have plenty of power at 100W both ways. It's how they're going to power PSVR2 with one cable.
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aclar00
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1) As many people have argued on this thread that could very well be Sony's plan...appease those who want it, but ultimately kill off discs faster and usher in the era of digital only quicker.
2) Those other peripheral add-ons focus wasnt to play the primary games of the console. HD-DVD was just to play movies. 32x and Sega CD were to play enhanced games and on completely diff media, not plain old Genesis games.
asdasdasdbb
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The problem is that the margins on the disc model are better and I imagine plenty of disc buyers still buy digital games. Raising the price to $450 and selling the disc drive for $50 seems pretty realistic.
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