killatopak
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texhnolyze
Banned
What the actual fuck happened?? I was pumped to play this game this week with my buddies but now it's delayed until next month AND the price is now 20$ instead of 10$ like it was just last week? That is some straight up bullshit, what's stopping them from delaying it again and raising the price again?? Literally done with this type of practice and this game.
ATXAlchemy
Member
I was not referring to those "normal" guys who VPN'd but rather those who are on another level of shittery.
There are those used certain modes of payment to get items(founder's packs) without actually paying. And then there's the botter/RMTers guys.
But the "normal" guys who abused the system certainly don't help when things like these happen. >___>
It's an awesome patch, don't complain lol. I can finally give my 2nd Arde Dagger ot my mage without getting lower potential.
Go ask the people who made fraudulent actions.
I don't think it's a "type of practice" if it is a reactionary move against what happened.
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I'll be honest that I am happy that they're doing action against botters. But they really need to get on another level: automation.
Nice to see the kTOS changes getting implemented so quickly. I wonder if the balance changes are stealth implemented too.
They didn't exactly 'raise the price'. The prices in different regions are now all "the same" as opposed to being regionally priced, so they can't 'do it again'.
They didn't exactly 'raise the price'. The prices in different regions are now all "the same" as opposed to being regionally priced, so they can't 'do it again'.
Edit: Glad we got the Token changes so soon. The changes for transferring stuff between characters are great and that was one of my bigger issues with the game outside of performance/stability stuff.
Frankly, the stability of things isn't good enough to open the floodgates for all the free players anyway. There are issues that aren't a huge deal right now, but would come back full force with that many new players. So, the delay is kind of a good thing.
They also didn't raise the price, technically. They removed the $10 option, but that was done over a week ago. They also removed the regional pricing, which does result in a price increase for some regions because it's direct converstion now. However, the remaining packs are now on sale for 50% off, with the $30 pack being $15 it's $5 more than the $10 pack was, but way more stuff.
I'm not a big fan of some of their practices, for example female premium hairstyles costing roughly $5 more than male. That's some bullshit. But the current prices of packs, at least for those of us unaffected by the regional pricing removal, are great. Even the old prices were cheaper than the actual price their contents cost, with a 50% discount it's become a huge deal.
Frankly, the stability of things isn't good enough to open the floodgates for all the free players anyway. There are issues that aren't a huge deal right now, but would come back full force with that many new players. So, the delay is kind of a good thing.
They also didn't raise the price, technically. They removed the $10 option, but that was done over a week ago. They also removed the regional pricing, which does result in a price increase for some regions because it's direct converstion now. However, the remaining packs are now on sale for 50% off, with the $30 pack being $15 it's $5 more than the $10 pack was, but way more stuff.
I'm not a big fan of some of their practices, for example female premium hairstyles costing roughly $5 more than male. That's some bullshit. But the current prices of packs, at least for those of us unaffected by the regional pricing removal, are great. Even the old prices were cheaper than the actual price their contents cost, with a 50% discount it's become a huge deal.
Same, I really appreciate the speed at which we get the functionality updates.
ATXAlchemy
Member
Same here. Though I really really wish they stop keeping the whole "we're keeping two different balancing in the game" bullcrap.
I don't see the reason for, say, Monk to remain unbuffed in international just because the community didn't complain as much as Korea.
If I am not mistaken, the Korean and International/Steam versions were released within some 6 months of each other, so speeding up the Int'l version shouldn't be that hard as there shouldn't be much content gap.
ErrorMacro
Member
Fantastic changes. Now I don't have to worry about the Arde dagger drama on my alt chars, since i've got one on my main already.
texhnolyze
Banned
SEA server has been moved to Singapore. Ping goes from 0.3 (300ms) to 0.03 (30ms).
The game is such a joy to play right now.
The game is such a joy to play right now.
I didn't even play last night, because I lost two dungeon runs within minutes. I dced on my second run and I accidentally entered alone on my third consuming my entries each time. I can't be upset though, the update was pretty hefty and they're in the midst of a server transition, besides Ni-oh was there to keep me company.
Well, it's more like $18, but it's also not really a subscription per se. It's not required to play, though I don't think I would play without its benefits.
The Token can also be sold on the market, so you can buy it from other players with in-game currency. This could also be used as justification for its price, since it can be converted to in-game currency.
That said, I don't love the cash shop in this game. Things are pretty pricey in general considering they're all character bound. And female premium hair costs almost 50% more than male, which is noticeable since that's a $5 difference x.x
Edit: I should say it's more the cosmetics that I think are handled poorly. The consumables could certainly be priced worse. But do keep in mind, 1 TP is basically 9 cents. So even some of those can add up pretty fast. Example, there's an achievement for dying and using a soul crystal 1,000 times. At 4 TP a piece, that's $360 worth, $288 if you buy the 10 packs. You could get them for free, using the freely generated TP, but that would take 16,000 hours and you'd have to make sure you never let your free TP go to waste by hitting the cap of 5 or it'll take even longer. And it's per character ;p
The achievement only gives you a title, but still it's crazy @_@ I think Soul Crystals are half the price in Korea, and your free TP generates twice as fast too.
killatopak
Gold Member
ATXAlchemy
Member
On Telsiai, server capability shitness is reaching extreme ass levels.
"Please check after Mission Instance Excess Count". (Translation: Instances have reached the limit.)
When I was solo-ing DGs, I would just spam enter DG until it lets me in if I ever encountered that. The Dungeon/Mission Instance limit is too ass fucking goddamn low right now. It's not even fucking F2P yet and it's already extremely abyssmal.
I believe the problems in Party Search in DG/Missions are also caused by server instability and Instance Count Bullshit. From the looks of it, it searches for a party, then tries to create an instance but Excess Bullshit Bullshit pops up, it kills the party, then starts over. It just loops and loops. It doesn't even keep the party lol.
Imagine lining up for the toilet, and you get to the front-most of the line. You get told that if within the next 10 seconds, noone comes out of the cubicles, you go back to the end of the line and startover. ORZ
Also, I have never ever experienced CommanderLoadFail before the server transfer to SG. Mission and DG is now full of it. Not sure whether it's the patch or the server.
Full of crap.
Good luck after May 10.
Fake Edit: Server just went down some 30 minutes ago. HAHAHAHA.
Edit: (5/2)
During the weekend, Telsiai was choking on its own imminent death. I wish I was joking, but it was progressively getting worse. There are times when I was literally having 3~5 minutes lag. I see nothing happening, I press skills, and as the sole healer of the party, I am also hoping that we haven't been wiped out yet. I just spam heal hoping that the server (game is supposedly TCP) registers my skill use and that my teammates aren't 3 sections away already to get back to the heal. I ask some party members and some but not all are getting lag.
Then boom. Commander LoadFail for the entire server. This happened on BOTH saturday and sunday.
Telsiai is only playable when it is not on peak. My work gives me *very* flexible time, so I can take advantage of that but when a game is telling you when to do things because of server stabilities, it is shit.
"Please check after Mission Instance Excess Count". (Translation: Instances have reached the limit.)
When I was solo-ing DGs, I would just spam enter DG until it lets me in if I ever encountered that. The Dungeon/Mission Instance limit is too ass fucking goddamn low right now. It's not even fucking F2P yet and it's already extremely abyssmal.
I believe the problems in Party Search in DG/Missions are also caused by server instability and Instance Count Bullshit. From the looks of it, it searches for a party, then tries to create an instance but Excess Bullshit Bullshit pops up, it kills the party, then starts over. It just loops and loops. It doesn't even keep the party lol.
Imagine lining up for the toilet, and you get to the front-most of the line. You get told that if within the next 10 seconds, noone comes out of the cubicles, you go back to the end of the line and startover. ORZ
Also, I have never ever experienced CommanderLoadFail before the server transfer to SG. Mission and DG is now full of it. Not sure whether it's the patch or the server.
Full of crap.
Good luck after May 10.
Fake Edit: Server just went down some 30 minutes ago. HAHAHAHA.
Edit: (5/2)
During the weekend, Telsiai was choking on its own imminent death. I wish I was joking, but it was progressively getting worse. There are times when I was literally having 3~5 minutes lag. I see nothing happening, I press skills, and as the sole healer of the party, I am also hoping that we haven't been wiped out yet. I just spam heal hoping that the server (game is supposedly TCP) registers my skill use and that my teammates aren't 3 sections away already to get back to the heal. I ask some party members and some but not all are getting lag.
Then boom. Commander LoadFail for the entire server. This happened on BOTH saturday and sunday.
Telsiai is only playable when it is not on peak. My work gives me *very* flexible time, so I can take advantage of that but when a game is telling you when to do things because of server stabilities, it is shit.
Anyone using the add-ons? I was opposed to them but the fog viewer assists you in getting they 100% map completion for all you conpletionists out there. Also completing a map gives you 3 exp cards via wings of Valor based on its level range.
I'm also using an add-on to remove the fps counter and a quick select for channel changing instead of the default drop-down menu. All of which have been mod-approved I should mention
I'm also using an add-on to remove the fps counter and a quick select for channel changing instead of the default drop-down menu. All of which have been mod-approved I should mention
ErrorMacro
Member
I'm using all the Excrulon mods, which are the exp tracker (part of the package as I don't find it very useful), Map fog viewer, enhanced monster frame and monster kill tracker. The best one, IMO, is the map fog viewer for the reason you listed.
I'm also using SweetFx with a profile to enhance contrast and color of in-game graphics. One of my biggest issues with the graphics in this game was the lack of color, and this mod helps a lot. Though I'm unsure if I should keep using it, as i've heard it might give me a VAC ban.
pixelpatch
Junior Member
a steep monthly subscription
SmoothRunningGun
Member
Finally! So maybe I can play by next weekend?
ErrorMacro
Member
I wouldn't count much on playing on the 10th, or 11th, as the server load will be pretty fucking horrible. But by the weekend after, maybe it will have stabilized.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Seems to be free already on Steam, unless I'm missing something. Just downloaded it.
ATXAlchemy
Member
It has always been "free" and downloadable. You just couldn't log into the game until you got the Founder Pack (or it becomes F2P).
Unless its a "Not available yet" issue, every time I load the game it hangs around on the first pop-up screen and then closes. Game never seems to patch/update or even boot. Checked files, uninstalled and re-downloaded and still the same. Might check in a few days in case it was a server/founder issue.
Unknown Soldier
Member
I can't wait to play Tree of Server Crashes tomorrow?
At least it will be free!
At least it will be free!
killatopak
Gold Member
Is Varena the GAF SEA server? Telsaiai seems to be for SEA too so I was just wondering in case you guys are in the other one.
EDIT: Gonna go for Varena as Telsaiai seems to be not available at the moment.
EDIT: Gonna go for Varena as Telsaiai seems to be not available at the moment.
killatopak
Gold Member
Wow man. This game is laggy af.
Do you get a stat point every level? I'm already level 15 and I only got a single stat point wtf?!
I can't even put points in any skills.
Do you get a stat point every level? I'm already level 15 and I only got a single stat point wtf?!
I can't even put points in any skills.
Skills you purchase via some quests and then you put currency and time waiting into that skill. You balance stat points as you level you character and then getting skills as your job level increases.
killatopak
Gold Member
So you still get a point per level right? I don't get one as I level. I got one in level 2 but not anymore after that.
It's just lag, you should get the points in a bit.
You get a stat point per base level and a skill point per class level which you can allocate. You're likely having issues due to server response time. You can buy attributes that add bonuses to your skills but they become costly.
Also Raide, the wait time for attributes has been patched out recently.
Also Raide, the wait time for attributes has been patched out recently.
Zalusithix
Member
Wasn't the wait time patch out only for token users?
Ahh I see. Not played since the last round. Hoping to jump back in soon. Currently planning to move, so zenny is tight.
killatopak
Gold Member
Oh man. It's been an hour already and the stat points still ain't being given.
^ It will likely remain that way until the lag subsides
Correct. For token users only.
Correct. For token users only.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
I'd like to know this as well if your characters are tied to servers. Definitely wanting to check this out.