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Tyson DONE!
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No, funnily enough not being convicted of murder doesnt make you a great guy.
Tyson is just one of these American Idols who can do anything and still be popular, i mean you all bad mouth kobe (damn right in my book) and Tyson even admitted as DJ_Tet quoted "I didn't rape that girl, but I figure that I did enough bad in my life to deserve what I got." So Tyson is a saint because he got wrongly convicted of a crime, even though he throughly deserved the punishment he got, and Kobe is a bastard.
Do you just believe everything you read or do you actually form these double standards on your own?
Archaix said:
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Ghost said:
First of all, I've always felt that Kobe is probably innocent. I'd wager that most of the people who mock Kobe think he's innocent. But he was a dumb fuck to cheat on his hot wife, he was a dumb fuck for throwing up 85,000 bricks in the finals, and he's also a dumb fuck for wanting Shaq and Phil dropped before resigning with the Lakers (yeah yeah, Mitch didn't make those moves for Kobe's sake, whatever), so I've got no problem making fun of him for that. Let alone the ridiculous "Kobe's better then MJ at the same age!!" crap that half the media decided to run with after his only good game (scratch that, half) of the finals. With all the Laker fans on this board, it's obvious joke material. But being called an idiot doesn't somehow infer that he's a fucking criminal. WTF kinda twisted leap of logic is that anyway?
Secondly, who the fuck said Tyson was a saint? The man beat on his wife, bit off a man's ear in the ring, stepped out of a car to get into a fight, and made a female reporter feel pretty uncomfortable. No one's ever called him perfect. He clearly has anger issues.
Third of all, WTF are you comparing Kobe to Tyson anyway? For better or for worse, Tyson is his own man when he speaks and acts. Says what's on his mind, blasts the whole world one day, blasts himself the next. He's an interesting cat when he speaks, because he can be either soft spoken or completely nuts. On the other hand Kobe's a fucking copy of Jordan from the way he uses cliches to the tugging of his shorts. He's really not very interesting once you get away from the basketball stuff.
And where did you get this idea that Tyson was anyone's idol? He's a fascinating character. So is Saddam Hussein. That doesn't neccessarily make them idols. Far as I know, people are still wearing Bryant jerseys, so I'd say he's got a lot more idol worship going on.
And don't talk to me about double standards...this coming from someone who clearly believe Tyson was guilty in a he said/she said case with no real evidence that he committed a rape, while acting like your boy Kobe did nothing wrong. Check yourself, before you get checked.
Late Stage Marxist
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I agree with the above post. Tyson is good TV, Kobe is not.
dskillzhtown
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I watched the fight last night and the thing I was most disappoined in was the fact Mike decided not to get up. Not like he couldn't, it was just like he refused to.
Tyson was convicted because he had a tax attorney for a defense lawyer, and because of the judge being clearly biased in favor of the prosecution by not letting the woman's previous false accuasation of rape in the trial. Thank goodness the same thing isn't happening in Kobe's case.
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So this is what it's all about...because we make fun of your boy toy Kobe all the time, you need to even the scales by pulling Tyson back down too. Brilliant.
First of all, I've always felt that Kobe is probably innocent. I'd wager that most of the people who mock Kobe think he's innocent. But he was a dumb fuck to cheat on his hot wife, he was a dumb fuck for throwing up 85,000 bricks in the finals, and he's also a dumb fuck for wanting Shaq and Phil dropped before resigning with the Lakers (yeah yeah, Mitch didn't make those moves for Kobe's sake, whatever), so I've got no problem making fun of him for that. Let alone the ridiculous "Kobe's better then MJ at the same age!!" crap that half the media decided to run with after his only good game (scratch that, half) of the finals. With all the Laker fans on this board, it's obvious joke material. But being called an idiot doesn't somehow infer that he's a fucking criminal. WTF kinda twisted leap of logic is that anyway?
Secondly, who the fuck said Tyson was a saint? The man beat on his wife, bit off a man's ear in the ring, stepped out of a car to get into a fight, and made a female reporter feel pretty uncomfortable. No one's ever called him perfect. He clearly has anger issues.
Third of all, WTF are you comparing Kobe to Tyson anyway? For better or for worse, Tyson is his own man when he speaks and acts. Says what's on his mind, blasts the whole world one day, blasts himself the next. He's an interesting cat when he speaks, because he can be either soft spoken or completely nuts. On the other hand Kobe's a fucking copy of Jordan from the way he uses cliches to the tugging of his shorts. He's really not very interesting once you get away from the basketball stuff.
And where did you get this idea that Tyson was anyone's idol? He's a fascinating character. So is Saddam Hussein. That doesn't neccessarily make them idols. Far as I know, people are still wearing Bryant jerseys, so I'd say he's got a lot more idol worship going on.
And don't talk to me about double standards...this coming from someone who clearly believe Tyson was guilty in a he said/she said case with no real evidence that he committed a rape, while acting like your boy Kobe did nothing wrong. Check yourself, before you get checked.
Where did i say i liked Kobe? Maybe if i put it in simple one line statements you'll understand
Rapist = bad man
Therefore:
Kobe = bad man
Tyson = bad man
And Bad men dont get pity from me when their lives turn to shit.
I dont belive Tyson was wrongly convicted, I've read plenty and i know that for every two articles ive read, one of them is complete PR bullshit to make tyson out as a victim. In my previous post i was pointing out that even if he was, he said himself he deserved what he got.
Gee, I said something false about you eh? Tit for tat there.
If you think Tyson (and Kobe) committed the rape, then that's fine. I don't...it's pretty clear the trial was a joke on many fronts. As for him saying he got what he deserved, he says that based on the other things he's done in his life. He's never once admitted to rape. Don't just pick and choose what you want to believe from him, particularly when the context of what he said there was crystal clear.
And I still don't know why you brought Kobe up...
If you think Tyson (and Kobe) committed the rape, then that's fine. I don't...it's pretty clear the trial was a joke on many fronts. As for him saying he got what he deserved, he says that based on the other things he's done in his life. He's never once admitted to rape. Don't just pick and choose what you want to believe from him, particularly when the context of what he said there was crystal clear.
And I still don't know why you brought Kobe up...
TheDrowningMan
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Shinobi said:
Lennox does have kids now.
Blackace
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Boogie said:
He can't even enter Japan... he did federal time. That's why his contract with K-1 fell through. I talked to Bob Sapp after they were going through all the legal hoopla (really I didn't mean that as a pun) trying to get Iron Mike over here.... he told me "I don't think its going to happen" and it didn't... So Mike had to come back and box again, he doesn't have much aof a choice if he wants to get out of debt.
Spectral Glider
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There's plenty of reasons Tyson eventually fell through the cracks, but I don't buy any of them as a continued excuse for acting like an asshole from time to time though. There's tons of people who had shit lives growing up and they didn't wind up with millions. Yet, they didn't resort to biting other dudes ears off in sporting competitions either. And the bigger problem here is that boxing itself is such a mess. Without one, set federation to govern things, it's like a giant circus. And Tyson fit right in under the big top.
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