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FIRST CHAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIR

 

[daycru]

Freshmyn

 

[Reversed]

Still undergraduates.

 

[Shambles]

Humans will now be called Hus.

 

[CrazyDude]

Freshperson?

Freshhuman?

Freshcunt?

Hmm...

Has the word man in it.

 

[captmorgan]

At this point wouldn`t it be easier to just change the meaning of MAN?

Then you only have one word to change instead of thousands upon thousands

 

[linko9]

Fuckin Roy Williams...

Come on man, you know dadgum well ole Roy is none too pleased with this.

 

[GoldenEye 007]

Lol, this is a true concern, not athletes getting real grades for fake classes. What is "woman" in Swahili?

Oh yes. UNC with their fake class scandal. Wasn't their defense basically "Those classes were available to everyone!" in order to avoid more significant NCAA sanctions. No extra benefits!

 

[Steve Youngblood]

At this point wouldn`t it be easier to just change the meaning of MAN?

I... don't think that would be that easy.

 

[Biff]

I find it stupidly amusing that calling someone a "chair" is better than something using "man" in it.

Oh yes, the thing the world puts its collective ass on is okay.

 

[DY_nasty]

Oh yes. UNC with their fake class scandal. Wasn't their defense basically "Those classes were available to everyone!" in order to avoid more significant NCAA sanctions. No extra benefits!

Calipari is the only real criminal here.

 

[ReBurn]

Damn the world is getting more and more stupid every day.

 

[GoldenEye 007]

Calipari is the only real criminal here.

I wouldn't say only... but yeah.

 

[captmorgan]

I... don't think that would be that easy.

Sure it would...just open up the dictionary select edit...

Man-a shade of blue

there done.

 

[Patriots7]

Some schools do the whole: 1st Year, 2nd year, and such and have been doing it for decades.

 

[Dennis]

I often wonder if the people who decide these things genuinely believe they are doing something good or if they feel they have to implement this but know damn well how silly it makes them look.

I work at a university and privately people always express their utter contempt at this kind of political correctness.

 

[Deified Data]

Wopersons.

Is "-sons" gender exclusive? Woperpeople?

 

[genjiZERO]

At this point wouldn`t it be easier to just change the meaning of MAN?

Then you only have one word to change instead of thousands upon thousands

The word "man" already is gender neutral.

O.E. man, mann "human being, person (male or female) . . . Sense of "adult male" is late (c.1000); O.E. used wer and wif to distinguish the sexes, but wer began to disappear late 13c. and was replaced by man

So if people have such a problem with the word "man" being used to describe "males" then it's not that the word "man" should change - it's that the word "wer/were" needs to be reincorporated into the language.

 

[replicashooter]

Political Correctness can suck my left nut.

 

[AkuMifune]

Your right nut must feel so left out.

 

[HigherLevel]

lol, priorities

 

[Tookay]

Never even crossed my mind this could be considered some invidious form of privilege.

Spoiler

This is silly.

 

[Stet]

I'm personally of the opinion that no matter which way you approach this from, it's not a big deal and really isn't newsworthy. On the one hand, I don't think many people were probably all that bothered by 'freshman', so "why bother?" isn't an altogether unreasonable question. But on the other, if even one person was remotely bothered by it, changing the documentation is a simple "Find & Replace" endeavor, so it also seems pointless to react as though this was a gargantuan undertaking that was enacted at the expense of more pressing concerns.

I completely agree. I doubt that this calls into question the priorities of the school at all, since it's a pretty minor change.

 

[replicashooter]

If I stated what was already sucking on the right I'd get banned for a while.

 

[Sickboy007]

Just reminds me of that amazing series of "children's books" that modified everything to be less "sexist" including using herstory, etc. Loved those books.

Herstory is a thing? Poor Herodotus.

So if people have such a problem with the word "man" being used to describe "males" then it's not that the word "man" should change - it's that the word "wer/were" needs to be reincorporated into the language.

So that's where werewolf and other similar words come from, interesting.

 

[Femmeworth]

*sighs at all of the knee-jerking*

This seems perfectly fine.

 

[Gannd]

Liberalism run amok. This is what happens when we have whole disciplines that really don't produce anything but thrive on being offended. It's a cottage industry for a lot of people.

 

[Kalnos]

It's completely stupid but nothing to really get up in arms about.

 

[Knox]

I'm always surprised with how defensive people get about this stuff. People act like their gender is under attack or something.

 

[AkuMifune]

If I stated what was already sucking on the right I'd get banned for a while.

Just be sure to use gender neutral language and you'll be fine.

 

[RionaaM]

I find it stupidly amusing that calling someone a "chair" is better than something using "man" in it.

Oh yes, the thing the world puts its collective ass on is okay.

Couches are going to feel discriminated against, too.

For me it's gonna be easier when reading about American education. I never understood what "freshman" or "sophomore" means, and didn't feel like googling it.

 

[Tookay]

I'm always surprised with how defensive people get about this stuff. People act like their gender is under attack or something.

We talking about the males in this thread or the potential group of people offended over the word "freshman"?

 

[Stet]

We talking about the males in this thread or the potential group of people offended over the word "freshman"?

The solution to one is to take five minutes to send a memo that says that Freshman is no longer a sanctioned term. The solution to the other...well, God, who knows -- revolution?

 

[Femmeworth]

I'm always surprised with how defensive people get about this stuff. People act like their gender is under attack or something.

Gotta protect the status quo.

 

[Moral Panic]

In the UK they just say "Fresher"

 

[Easy_D]

Are they gonna change human too?

Gotta change woman while they're at it.

 

[ThisWreckage]

*sighs at all of the knee-jerking*

This seems perfectly fine.

No, it doesn't. You can't please everyone. That's what businesses and universities don't understand. Some people are going to be offended no matter what decisions are made. Making widespread change to appease a small group of people that are offended over something is never a good idea.

 

[Stet]

No, it doesn't. You can't please everyone. That's what businesses and universities don't understand. Some people are going to be offended no matter what decisions are made. Making widespread change to appease a small group of people that are offended over something is never a good idea.

People get offended at a lot of things. I just have a hard time finishing this sentence with anything that isn't overly defensive:

"I'm offended that they've stopped using the word Freshman because..."

 

[Dude Abides]

No, it doesn't. You can't please everyone. That's what businesses and universities don't understand. Some people are going to be offended no matter what decisions are made. Making widespread change to appease a small group of people that are offended over something is never a good idea.

This isn't a widespread change. It hurts nobody. There is no reason to get all bent out of shape over it.

 

[SquiddyCracker]

Freshmen applies to both women and virmen.

 

[Tookay]

People get offended at a lot of things. I just have a hard time finishing this sentence with anything that isn't overly defensive:

"I'm offended that they've stopped using the word Freshman because..."

And the converse is true.

"I'm offended that they continue to use the word Freshman because..."

How can you conclude that statement without looking overly defensive?

 

[Magilla]

Can I say it is silly and not be labeled knee-jerk or reactionary?

Edit:
To clarify

The University of North Carolina (pictured above) dropped the term “freshman” in an effort to adopt more “gender neutral language.”

Freshman is gender neutral. They changed from one gender neutral term to another gender neutral term in order to be more gender neutral.

That is silly to me.

 

[ThisWreckage]

This isn't a widespread change. It hurts nobody. There is no reason to get all bent out of shape over it.

It didn't hurt anyone in the first place. This is an overreaction to an overreaction.

 

[Deleted member 13876]

Freshmaker.

Ah dammit beaten.

 

[Corky]

Fresh-ass

It works because see, both genders have asses.

 

[samus i am]

Ugh. This pc shit is going too far.

 

[derder]

It didn't hurt anyone in the first place. This is an overreaction to an overreaction.

Now you're overreacting.

 

[I H8 Memes]

I'm always surprised with how defensive people get about this stuff. People act like their gender is under attack or something.

Intelligence and common sense are under attack by idiots who think this is something worth addressing. Not only is it not worth addressing, it's not an issue. It's only an issue for people who somehow think having "man" at the end of a word somehow means the word defers to men first. It refers to a human, not a man, and we shouldn't have to change things just because some people don't know that. Our society shouldn't defer to the thoughts and opinions of the lowest common denominator.

 

[replicashooter]

Just be sure to use gender neutral language and you'll be fine.

Thats why I segregated the nut sucking in the first place.

 

[Knox]

We talking about the males in this thread or the potential group of people offended over the word "freshman"?

I was talking about the people in this thread, but I see how that could be taken either way. Seriously, no one is making a word illegal or anything.