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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 6 Offseason Thread
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I'm talking more about certain plot points than the battle itself, specifically
Ramsay and Wun Wun dying, specially the giant.
Basileus777
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First Daario had no screen presence, Huisman makes the relationship with Dany at least somewhat convincing. Far more than the books did even.
cartoon_soldier
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Link to said spoilers?
Latvian Hitman
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Agreed. Huisman is a great actor, but he just doesn't feel like Daario to me. He's too "Han Solo", and too straightforward. I thought Skrein did a much better job of capturing the flamboyance and slightly off kilter approach of the book character.
Sho_Nuff82
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Old Daario was too much of a pretty boy. New Daario has the bad boy thing on lock. He looks like the kind of guy who would smoke and ride a motorcycle and would keep you up at night thinking about your teenage daughter hanging out with him.
Jaime's interactions with the Frey's and Tully's are some of the best writing in that book.
Jaime's interactions with the Frey's and Tully's are some of the best writing in that book.
Stark soldiers would be charging in with Jon/Wun Wun, so it would make sense that he would see what goes down in there if he's playing one of those.
MAJOR SPOILERS DO NOT CLICK: http://m.imgur.com/BPnVKH9
I think the issue is book Daario needed to be completely dismantled for the show. Daario1 was closer to him, sure, but that was kind of the problem. Every one of those Daario-and-Dany-talk-over-sex scenes in season 5 would have been laughable with that guy. The show needed a different character to make it work, and Huisman has delivered on that.
bodyofanamerican
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It's such a dumb thing to get annoyed about but I can't stand when Ramsay is spelled Ramsey.
Dash_Riprock
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I was hoping Ramsay would be flayed as the ultimate Karmic Death but otherwise I can dig it
But he said specific details,
and we know Wun Wun has to be CGIed if he interacts with someone else. Production telling everyone how the giant specifically dies seems out of place.
We are also assuming things were filmed in chronological order, most likely, they were not.
Most spoilers do point out to something though,
and that is that Ramsay has the upper hand. The Vale arriving to save the day seems like trying to copy the Rohirrim arriving to Helm's Deep and that is so contrived and awful that I'm almost completely believing it. 
and of course D&D ruining the Umbers is perfectly plausible, like the last spit on book readers from them.
and of course D&D ruining the Umbers is perfectly plausible, like the last spit on book readers from them.Latvian Hitman
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I don't necessarily agree. I think Skrein would have done perfectly fine in the bedroom scenes. Hardly a huge point of contention for me, though. I'm not losing sleep over who plays Daario! And it's not anywhere near the top of the list of problems the show has encountered in the last couple seasons.
Waylon Drums
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Second Daario is best Daario. It is known.
He's so much more attractive. The other one was such a derp.
Only thing I don't like is Ramsey going out killing Wun Wun. His kill count is too damn big.
vainglorious
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Atraveller
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What a downer!
It didn't read to me like Ramsay specifically kills him. It sounds like there's a whole group of Bolton archers, and we just see Wun Wun get hit by a stray arrow. If it's actually a shot of Ramsay shooting him and smirking all smugly about it or something, then yeah that'll be lame.
The Umber thing is definitely going to be a sore spot for book people though. I can get that Rickon may have lost his purpose in the reshuffling of the Northern plot and may need to be killed off, but I would've preferred handing Ramsay another win and having him sack the Last Hearth and kill Smalljon to get Rickon, rather than this Smalljon heel turn, but I guess they wanted other lords to back up Ramsay and give him people to talk to after Roose is gone.
The Umber thing is definitely going to be a sore spot for book people though. I can get that Rickon may have lost his purpose in the reshuffling of the Northern plot and may need to be killed off, but I would've preferred handing Ramsay another win and having him sack the Last Hearth and kill Smalljon to get Rickon, rather than this Smalljon heel turn, but I guess they wanted other lords to back up Ramsay and give him people to talk to after Roose is gone.
If he's killed by archers, there'd be actual archers shooting at the giant onset. It makes sense that an extra would know about that.
Most spoilers do point out to something though,and that is that Ramsay has the upper hand. The Vale arriving to save the day seems like trying to copy the Rohirrim arriving to Helm's Deep and that is so contrived and awful that I'm almost completely believing it.
Every major dramatized battle in this series ends the same way:
Battle of the Blackwater (209): Surprise Tyrell/Lannister cavalry charge!
Battle of the Wall (410): Surprise Baratheon cavalry charge!
Battle of Winterfell (510): Surprise Bolton cavalry charge!
Battle of Winterfell (609?): Surprise Arryn cavalry charge!
Siege of Meereen (610?): Surprise Dothraki cavalry charge!
Battle of the Blackwater (209): Surprise Tyrell/Lannister cavalry charge!
Battle of the Wall (410): Surprise Baratheon cavalry charge!
Battle of Winterfell (510): Surprise Bolton cavalry charge!
Battle of Winterfell (609?): Surprise Arryn cavalry charge!
Siege of Meereen (610?): Surprise Dothraki cavalry charge!
TheCowboyPoet
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What character is that MAJOR SPOILER in regard to? Maybe it's time for me to get out of this thread. I haven't looked any of the trailers. For the first time, I have no clue where the story is going and I want it to stay that way. Are there major spoilers out? Jon returning isn't a major spoiler if it's that.
The first dude was easily better. Sure the second looks better, but there's nothing interesting or distinct about him. He's just boring. First dude had charisma.
The first dude was easily better. Sure the second looks better, but there's nothing interesting or distinct about him. He's just boring. First dude had charisma.
It's about events impacting pretty much every character currently located in the North. If you are at all spoiler sensitive I would not read any of it. It's not 100% confirmed, but it matches imagery and dialogue in the trailer in ways that would indicate this guy did know things.
Oldest Snake
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Old Daario looks exactly like the sort of twat-end that would have blue hair and a yellow beard without actually having to look that ridiculous. New Daario is just another generic bearded white guy.
biosnake20
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We also had that pretty convincing hardhome leak that proved to be false last year so let's not get too crazy.
Basileus777
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Book Daario is a shit character, faithfulness to that isn't something they should have cared to achieve.
blazenumb1
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Haven't seen much on this topic in awhile and I apologize as I have not read the books(and if i'm asking in the wrong spot).
However, is there anything on Benjen Stark after he disappears? If not anything spoilers/theories on what happened to him?
However, is there anything on Benjen Stark after he disappears? If not anything spoilers/theories on what happened to him?
Basileus777
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There are a billion theories (most of them crazy), but nothing concrete from the books.
Cornballer
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"It was different. They didn't give me as many men to have sex with this year, so that was a change."
Completely new footage, people are calling it red wedding 2.0 but it is not a wedding, it's a feast.
That was my hope, but I wasn't sure if it was new or old footage.
Need to watch the new trailer in proper fashion at home.
Youtube's slow down option is godsend.
bodyofanamerican
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If you freeze frame, can't you see Lannister soldiers? That would imply new.
Wasn't book Loras a pretty seasoned warrior?
I clearly don't deserve to live.
Steelyuhas
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He's an excellently trained fighter and has participated in many tourneys, but I don't think he'd seen any combat before joining the Lannister forces in the Blackwater battle.
D and D haven't told Finn Jones about book Loras.
"So listen, you're this knight who rides around on horses giving ladies flowers, but at night you have some of the gayest sex that ever did sex. I mean you are this show's gay character, so we have to really gay it up. You care about nothing but clothes and gay sex. I'm sending some hunky dudes to your house so you can method act. We need this part perfect."
blazenumb1
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Got it, thanks.
RatskyWatsky
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Yeah. The old actor was perfect for book Daario, but since they changed his role on the show into something more straightforward and generic, the new actor was a better fit. Still, it was an extremely jarring recast - one of the worst I've seen.
ChaosZeroX
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Holy shit those spoilers sound fantastic if true.
ftfy
The more I think about it the more of a mess it seems to be, hopefully it will all play differently.
biosnake20
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The new trailer confirms that Yara/Asha will be in Volantis. Yaratarion/Ashatarion.
VictYaran
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