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wavemetrix: Nintendos DS outplays Sonys PSP
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MrPing1000
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the title of this thread made me think a DS version of Wetrix wud b a really good idea.
AtomicShroom
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GDJustin said:
Wi-Fi Multiplayer Tetris Attack DS >>> Wetrix
Spazbiohaz
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that is what I was thinking.
akascream said:
...but they didn't do it yet in America. That's what I don't get. Outside of a couple games (and only very recently), the library of games available for the DS is pretty awful. I even have a hard time taking opinion into account here. I've walked into stores recently almost willing to grab a DS for Kirby and a few upcoming titles, but everytime I look at the software section, I back off.
Reilly said:
That's true...
For a while, people made it seem as if Nintendo and their DS was somehow the underdog, when in fact, that just isn't true. Competing against Nintendo in the handheld market seems to be very difficult, as they do well even when they release nothing but garbage.
Kobun Heat
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It's important to remember that in Japan, summer break is like Christmas. It's the end of the school year, and so you see a flood of new games in June and July as the kids get out and want more games.
That's why you're seeing lots of releases in Japan now even during the US downtime. The DS will come into its own in the months leading up to Christmas here; after a totally dead July, things will get very interesting starting with 'dogs in August.
That's why you're seeing lots of releases in Japan now even during the US downtime. The DS will come into its own in the months leading up to Christmas here; after a totally dead July, things will get very interesting starting with 'dogs in August.
Duke Juan the Beast
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Oh good god...
That has to be even higher than internet based polls on the actually-means-shitall-o-meter.
Reilly said:
True, but considering the amount of hype the PSP got in pre-release, a lot of people (myself included) expected it to perform much better. I'm glad I own both systems, although I'm a bit disheartened at the lack of interesting PSP stuff at E3, and Popolocrois is the only thing I really want in the next few months.
Is it just me, or has there been very few PSP commercials on as of late? Especially considering I see Kirby and Meteos ads on a whole lot.
Kobun Heat
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Oh, whoops. My bad. Obviously I'm into Nanostray. I was just thinking that Nintendo doesn't have anything on tap for July. (Which they don't, for any system.)Teddman said:
Seriously. I've had a DS since day one, and I still don't understand what people are liking about it. I mean, when the library improves (and Kirby and Meteos are a good start), sure, but right now, it has quite possibly the most abysmal library of any major system at this point in it's life that I've ever seen.dark10x said:
NintendosBooger
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Andy787 said:
You must have not been an early adopter of the PS2.
To me, it stands as the system with the worst "year-one" to date.
Haha, I actually editted out "including PS2" from that post.NintendosBooger said:
But regardless, I would say that the PS2 had a far, far better library in the same amount of time. In the same amount of time that the DS has been released, PS2 already had Tekken Tag, Twisted Metal Black, Onimusha, Ridge Racer V, SSX, Shadow of Destiny, Sky Odyssey, Ring of Red, Dark Cloud, Zone of the Enders, and Gran Turismo 3 and Klonoa 2 were only a few weeks later. And of course, you can't forget that GTA3, MGS2, FFX, Ico, etc., followed at the end of the year.The PS2's first year was so unbelievably blown out of proportion in terms of quality by the online community, and the PSP's seems to be following the same road. :/
Phoenix Dark
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So this explains why the PSP is owning the DS in the US right now.
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Bluemercury
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Andy787 said:
Of course its miserable, its on a Nintendo console.......
terrene said:
We'll were talking on a hand held here. I can never imagine myself in the next 5 years at least playing a handheld game multiplayer as much as a console or pc game. It would be really damn fun to see some multiplayer puzzle games of course. I think it would be fun to see 4 player Katamari deathmatches to see who gets the biggest ball at the end of a set time and various other minigames while playing on the shitter.
Late Stage Marxist
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I'm holding out on DS at least until Animal Crossing DS, and PSP at least until Liberty City Stories.
SolidSnakex
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SanjuroTsubaki said:
Did you just completely ignore the list of PS2 games he posted that came out in the same time period? It does a pretty good job of showing that the PS2's first year is nowhere near as bad as some try to make people think.
Drinky Crow
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I love how folks forget Madden 2000 for the PS2 at launch, the title that pretty much handed it the US market on a platter.
And Nanostray isn't anything close to a Radiant Silvergun clone, save a shared technical aesthetic. The quality of shooter design between the two is parsecs in difference -- Nanostray is a mediocre Amiga-era shooter gussied up with a little 32-bit class 3D, whereas Radiant Silvergun is one of the deepest, best-designed shooters ever made.
Lastly, the study was conducted on internet messageboards -- the selfsame sorts of boards who think that the world begins and ends with Square or Nintendo. Obviously, their manufactured "reality" isn't borne out by market performance, or we'd all be playing FF12 on our Gamecubes.
Howzzat for damage control, stoolies?
And Nanostray isn't anything close to a Radiant Silvergun clone, save a shared technical aesthetic. The quality of shooter design between the two is parsecs in difference -- Nanostray is a mediocre Amiga-era shooter gussied up with a little 32-bit class 3D, whereas Radiant Silvergun is one of the deepest, best-designed shooters ever made.
Lastly, the study was conducted on internet messageboards -- the selfsame sorts of boards who think that the world begins and ends with Square or Nintendo. Obviously, their manufactured "reality" isn't borne out by market performance, or we'd all be playing FF12 on our Gamecubes.
Howzzat for damage control, stoolies?
SolidSnakex said:
No I read the list. I'm enjoying my time with the DS far more than those titles. GTA3 still didnt come for some time. My PS2 until then was host to PS1 games.
And don't get me started on MGS2......If your a fan of the series dont start and argument I've had far too many. MGS and MGS3 are pure sex and two of the finest games ever made.
Drinky Crow
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Nope. But I've played Iridion 2, and I've watched the videos of Nanostray. I see the poor boss designs and amateurish bullet patterns of Iridion 2 and other European Amiga-style shooters remain intact. Like most European shooters, the emphasis is on technology over mechanics, and absolutely nothing I've seen says otherwise. Adding in a chaining component is not the same as making it work, and comparing Nanostray to Radiant Silvergun shows the desperation DS fanboys will go to when looking increase their favorite handheld's pitiful launch library.
We're approaching the DS' one-year anniversary, and y'all still have Launch Title Syndrome -- that bizarre affectation that garners loads of attention and sales for B-quality games due to a starved library. It's kinda cute!
We're approaching the DS' one-year anniversary, and y'all still have Launch Title Syndrome -- that bizarre affectation that garners loads of attention and sales for B-quality games due to a starved library. It's kinda cute!
Drinky Crow said:
Like Teddman says, have you played Nanostray? Anyway. It's only a matter of time. Yes. Just like it was in Japan. The stuff you see in Japan will basically happen in the US. And eventually in Europe. Just wait a lil longer (yes, American DS owners, even longer) and DS am explode.
Drinky Crow
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I'm crossing my fingers and hoping that Americans aren't nostalgic for PSOne-era 3D and goofy mini-games just YET, but I've been wrong once!
(I'm also betting that Madden 2006 PSP will be a killer app, but we'll see -- the pared down DS version didn't exactly move units, although that could be attributed to the DS' initial sales base of Nintendo fanboys and "hardcore" haters.)
(I'm also betting that Madden 2006 PSP will be a killer app, but we'll see -- the pared down DS version didn't exactly move units, although that could be attributed to the DS' initial sales base of Nintendo fanboys and "hardcore" haters.)
Drinky Crow
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"No-one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public" -- H. L. Mencken
Drinky Crow
Banned
No, I didn't, but I *have* called him an idiot countless times before.
Well, then please don't talk as if you have, your post certainly gave the impression that you did.Drinky Crow said:
You know better than to pass off watching videos as if it's hands-on experience.Saying something is a clone of another game doesn't automatically bring with it the connotation that it surpasses or equals said game in quality, i.e. "Halo clone" or "Mario clone." For instance, Swingaway Golf was a Hot Shots Golf clone... you get the picture.
On the other hand, while it's decidedly unreasonable to expect Nanostray to be the equal of Radiant Silvergun (not being developed by Treasure), it does largely come closer than pretty much any other vertical shooter since. The 3D camera moves blended with 2D gameplay, 6+ different weapons, a focus on boss battles (which are even preceded by Silvergun-style WARNING text)... And it plays like a quality shooter.
There's nothing inaccurate about calling Nanostray a Silvergun "clone," as it's the nearest thing to it stylistically in vertical shooters AND it looks to be a solid effort at that. Bending over backwards to belie that and spin it so negatively especially without even having played it... I think the DS hater in you has sadly gotten the upper hand of the shooter aficionado.
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