What exceptions? The biggest gap between ND's releases was a gap between Lost Legacy and TLOU2, which is less than 3 years.
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With Ragnarok looking like GOTY material, have Sony Santa Monica supplanted Naughty Dog as Sony’s best studio?
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Im not sure how Santa Monica has surpassed Naughty Dog when literally all they've made is God of War.
Lets see what they do with a New IP. Naughty Dog has given us Crash Bandicoot, Jak and Daxter, Uncharted and The Last of Us... Theres levels to this shit!
They're now trying something new with a standalone Multuplayer game. And then you know that New IP they make is going to be fucking incredible too.
Their output (quantity wise) is only matched by Insomniac.
SSM releases a game like every 4-6 years. In that time ND will drop 2 or even 3 games.
Their games have a level of polish unlike anyone else in the industry, and they are the absolute top tier when it comes to graphics, tech and animation. Nobody is touching their motion matching, which yes, does improve gameplay.
They are easily Sony's best studio, and the best in the industry. People are just focused on recency bias.
Lets see what they do with a New IP. Naughty Dog has given us Crash Bandicoot, Jak and Daxter, Uncharted and The Last of Us... Theres levels to this shit!
They're now trying something new with a standalone Multuplayer game. And then you know that New IP they make is going to be fucking incredible too.
Their output (quantity wise) is only matched by Insomniac.
SSM releases a game like every 4-6 years. In that time ND will drop 2 or even 3 games.
Their games have a level of polish unlike anyone else in the industry, and they are the absolute top tier when it comes to graphics, tech and animation. Nobody is touching their motion matching, which yes, does improve gameplay.
They are easily Sony's best studio, and the best in the industry. People are just focused on recency bias.
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SlimySnake
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Spider-Man is targeting native 4k if the first teaser means anything. They will do what they always do and release a well made but ultimately forgettable adventure.
Hell, id rank sucker punch over insomniac simply because of how ambitious GoT felt.
Tiago Rodrigues
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Sony Santa Monica is a great studio but it’s still missing something which is having a different IP.
It feels weird how in almost 20 years God of War is the only thing they have created.
All other Sony studios have manages to create multiple successful IPs over the years. Even Guerrila Games.
Technically they are almost on par with Naughty Dog but not quite.
It feels weird how in almost 20 years God of War is the only thing they have created.
All other Sony studios have manages to create multiple successful IPs over the years. Even Guerrila Games.
Technically they are almost on par with Naughty Dog but not quite.
RJMacready73
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Where do you even start with that bollocks...
Sony is in the enviable position of having a shit load of top tier studios, choosing whose best is like choosing who your favourite kid is ffs, they all bring something unique to the table but for me personally I've gotten the most enjoyment from the Uncharted & Last of Us franchises and Guerrilla Games Forbidden West constantly melts my eyeballs and now I can fucking fly!?!
Tiago Rodrigues
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It’s also been interesting to witness studios like Sucker Punch getting there. I have a feeling we’ll be seeing a huge upgrade from Sony Bend as well.
Most of their studios are evolving so much though. I would never imagine a game like Returnal from Housmarque. Or Bluepoint doing an original IP.
Sony actually knows how to grow their studios post-acquisition.
Trogdor1123
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I said insomniac due their ability to hit a greater volume
SteelCurtain 59
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If Ragnarok's the same quality as the first one they're a very distant 3rd behind Naughty Dog and Insomniac. Will have to see if it's a massive improvement or not
remember_spinal
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Naughty Dog is still king.
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But SMS is very close.
Feels like right now the top studios sitting at the big boy table are Naughty Dog, Santa Monica Studios, Guerrilla and Insomniac.
These studios i think can rise up the ranks prettty quickly depending on their next releases, Bend Studio, London Studio, Housemarque and Team Asobi.
I think its gonna take Pixelopus, and Bluepoint a couple of good releases before they make their way in there. Media Molecule should technically be at the big boy table but they’ve wasted so much time and resources with Dreams. All their games are highly rated though. The problem with dreams is its too much about the engine and not enough about getting into games and playing.
I hope their next game is something more gameplay centric like LBP was, maybe they can follow the Minecraft legends/dungeons template if they want to stick with user generated content
But SMS is very close.
Feels like right now the top studios sitting at the big boy table are Naughty Dog, Santa Monica Studios, Guerrilla and Insomniac.
These studios i think can rise up the ranks prettty quickly depending on their next releases, Bend Studio, London Studio, Housemarque and Team Asobi.
I think its gonna take Pixelopus, and Bluepoint a couple of good releases before they make their way in there. Media Molecule should technically be at the big boy table but they’ve wasted so much time and resources with Dreams. All their games are highly rated though. The problem with dreams is its too much about the engine and not enough about getting into games and playing.
I hope their next game is something more gameplay centric like LBP was, maybe they can follow the Minecraft legends/dungeons template if they want to stick with user generated content
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Raonak
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I think ND, SSM and IG are all a tier of their own.
But Naughty Dog is still the apex.
Their games are of the highest quality, insane levels of polish and technical achievement and they've done multiple releases per generation. (PS3: U1,2,3,TLOU. PS4: U4,UTLL,TLOU2)
SSM quality wise, are probably near ND, but they are slower at releasing games (PS3: GOW3, GOWA. PS4: GOW2018)
IG generally release the most games of the lot, but their quality is a bit less than the other two imo. But the fact they've already released 2 PS5 games, and have 2 more in the pipeline is quite impressive.
But Naughty Dog is still the apex.
Their games are of the highest quality, insane levels of polish and technical achievement and they've done multiple releases per generation. (PS3: U1,2,3,TLOU. PS4: U4,UTLL,TLOU2)
SSM quality wise, are probably near ND, but they are slower at releasing games (PS3: GOW3, GOWA. PS4: GOW2018)
IG generally release the most games of the lot, but their quality is a bit less than the other two imo. But the fact they've already released 2 PS5 games, and have 2 more in the pipeline is quite impressive.
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Captain Toad
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No love for Bungie?
Hobbygaming
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Killed the franchise? Lol if they released a TLOU Part III trailer with Ellie fighting off some new infected in next gen graphics it would set the internet on fire
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god that combat is untouchableNaughty Dog is still king.
But SMS is very close.
Feels like right now the top studios sitting at the big boy table are Naughty Dog, Santa Monica Studios, Guerrilla and Insomniac.
These studios i think can rise up the ranks prettty quickly depending on their next releases, Bend Studio, London Studio, Housemarque and Team Asobi.
I think its gonna take Pixelopus, and Bluepoint a couple of good releases before they make their way in there. Media Molecule should technically be at the big boy table but they’ve wasted so much time and resources with Dreams. All their games are highly rated though. The problem with dreams is its too much about the engine and not enough about getting into games and playing.
I hope their next game is something more gameplay centric like LBP was, maybe they can follow the Minecraft legends/dungeons template if they want to stick with user generated content
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For me, it'll probably take at least 1 or 2 more amazing games after Ragnarok for me to put SSM on the same level of ND
Disclaimer: I didn't play God of War 1 or God of War 2
Disclaimer: I didn't play God of War 1 or God of War 2
Zathalus
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Out of all the Sony studios, they are the best at monetization.
ZoukGalaxy
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Team Asobi has my heart 
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Trazyn the Infinite
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Where do you even start with that bollocks...
Sony is in the enviable position of having a shit load of top tier studios, choosing whose best is like choosing who your favourite kid is ffs, they all bring something unique to the table but for me personally I've gotten the most enjoyment from the Uncharted & Last of Us franchises and Guerrilla Games Forbidden West constantly melts my eyeballs and now I can fucking fly!?!
If you like mediocrity…
Hobbygaming
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We'll have a better idea of how close SSM is getting after we actually play Ragnarok
Captain Toad
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We just need more quantity-wise from them.Team Asobi has my heart
remember_spinal
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TLOU2 killed the franchise by scoring a 93 on mc and becoming the most awarded game of all time, getting a big budget hbo adaptation, and a AAA multiplayer spinoff series.
Factions trailer is gonna have people spinning in circles
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Hobbygaming
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I'd really love a bigger Astro game for PS5. I know they said their next game will be different and I'm still interested in seeing it
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"tlou 2 killed the franchise" types are retarded honestly, theres no other way to put it.
Putonahappyface
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Naughty Dog.
Moses85
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Ehm. TLOU is druckmans baby
ZehDon
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Hands down. Their ability to work across genres and styles at the quality level they're able to hit every time? Sony couldn't have hoped for more when they snagged them. Unbelievable output.
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Topher
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Nice problem to have.
jeffyjaixx
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Insomniac has quickly risen the rankings and can be argued as their top studio right now based off of how many quality titles they have managed to release this past decade.
FalsettoVibe
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Team Asobi has my heart
I really think the next Astro is gonna be a big deal.
sloppyjoe_gamer
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Insomniac has now become a comic book game studio and ND only churns out Woke of Us garbage these days and SSM really is only known for GOW.
I think we need to see some real PS5 only titles from all of them to really talk about this fairly. We have Insomniac with the PS5 Ratchet that was outstanding so we need to see more of that (PS5 only titles)
I think we need to see some real PS5 only titles from all of them to really talk about this fairly. We have Insomniac with the PS5 Ratchet that was outstanding so we need to see more of that (PS5 only titles)
James Sawyer Ford
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I don't think ND is doing anything more groundbreaking in terms of game design.
GoW is pretty ambitious though.
Justin9mm
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Naughty Dog, Santa Monica and Insomniac are no doubt the Top 3.. Not necessarily in that order.
I love love loved TLOU2, even though I'm still critical of the pacing and some story events of that game, it was still a masterpiece to me overall. But GOW 2018 was my fav game of the generation and I think Ragnarok may top that so based on this I think Santa Monica are No. 1 imo. I also really like Corey Barlog so that helps lol.
Even though I love TLOU franchise and really like Uncharted, I think Insomniac have more variety/ they can produce quality games much quicker and so I think they may just come in at close second.
But they are all good in their own right and this is what makes PlayStation a popular platform. My god, if Xbox had this list of quality devs banging out Exclusives like Sony, especially with GamePass, they would be dominating. I have said it before and I'll say it again, Xbox somehow have no idea how to make good games. It's like they have no idea what a good game looks like. The fact that you have to buy up all the mainstream publishers to get them says it all. And yet we are still waiting for them!
I love love loved TLOU2, even though I'm still critical of the pacing and some story events of that game, it was still a masterpiece to me overall. But GOW 2018 was my fav game of the generation and I think Ragnarok may top that so based on this I think Santa Monica are No. 1 imo. I also really like Corey Barlog so that helps lol.
Even though I love TLOU franchise and really like Uncharted, I think Insomniac have more variety/ they can produce quality games much quicker and so I think they may just come in at close second.
But they are all good in their own right and this is what makes PlayStation a popular platform. My god, if Xbox had this list of quality devs banging out Exclusives like Sony, especially with GamePass, they would be dominating. I have said it before and I'll say it again, Xbox somehow have no idea how to make good games. It's like they have no idea what a good game looks like. The fact that you have to buy up all the mainstream publishers to get them says it all. And yet we are still waiting for them!
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Gamerguy84
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Ive enjoyed SSM output more over the last 4 years but i dont think you can crown one like that.
The total body of work needs to be looked at. One thing about all of them is most of them are capable of putting out games like these.
Insomniac has been on fire, I also cant wsit for Wolverine.
The total body of work needs to be looked at. One thing about all of them is most of them are capable of putting out games like these.
Insomniac has been on fire, I also cant wsit for Wolverine.
ZoukGalaxy
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May the god of videogames hear you.
Note: yes, that's me the only vote for them
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odhiex
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They are all good, so I don't care the debate on who's better than the other.
For me, my top 3 favorite PS4 games are in order:
1) The Witcher 3
2) God of War
3) The Last of Us Part II
I still chosen Naughty Dog because it's critical receptions. But CDPR and Santa Monica did very well.
For me, my top 3 favorite PS4 games are in order:
1) The Witcher 3
2) God of War
3) The Last of Us Part II
I still chosen Naughty Dog because it's critical receptions. But CDPR and Santa Monica did very well.
The artful mincer
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Hmmm Naughty Dog ruled the ps3 generation but I was disappointed with both uncharted 4 and last of us part 2 so I can't in good confidence vote for them.
Sony santa monica made the best game last generation but there output is slow. Still they appear to have done it again so on current form I voted for them.
Insomniacs output is crazy and they might be generating more revenue than anyone. Gotta to consider them. There's game are good but not great yet ..
Guerilla. Zero dawn was amazing but I was a little disappointed with forbidden west although It was still great. Technically they maybe top of list that includes naughty Dog.
Sucker punch. Loved infamous didn't care for Ghost meh at the moment.
Housemarque. Best Ps5 game to date The rising star watch out for these guys..
Sony Bend. Days Gone bored me to tears they have alot to prove.
Sony santa monica made the best game last generation but there output is slow. Still they appear to have done it again so on current form I voted for them.
Insomniacs output is crazy and they might be generating more revenue than anyone. Gotta to consider them. There's game are good but not great yet ..
Guerilla. Zero dawn was amazing but I was a little disappointed with forbidden west although It was still great. Technically they maybe top of list that includes naughty Dog.
Sucker punch. Loved infamous didn't care for Ghost meh at the moment.
Housemarque. Best Ps5 game to date The rising star watch out for these guys..
Sony Bend. Days Gone bored me to tears they have alot to prove.
Elder Legend
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Sony Santa Monica.
Naughty Dog's writing is inconsistent.
Naughty Dog's writing is inconsistent.
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