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[SuperColourful]

about a minute in RDR2 in next gen what about last gen

 

[Nikana]

that's what i am thinking, too...makes no sense

The difference was always going to be likely minimal in load times(next and current gen). Theres more to loading then raw SSD speed.

 

[CeeJay]

If you actually think the XSX has faster I/O than PS5 just say so in clear letters so you can be held accountable at a later date.

The numbers don't mean shit when they don't carry through to real world comparisons though. So who gives a fuck if PS5 IO is 100% faster on paper when that doesn't have any meaningful affect on the actual load times?

 

[danielJackson]

Last Gen load times:

Spoiler: results, because i was not allowed to put it into the title

Series X is faster

Boot time and resume:

There is something fishy how he presses both consoles on from the controller vs timer.

Like on ps5 he presses the button sloooowly, pauses and then lets go. Just press both like mouse click and start timer then. PS5 beeb comes around 5-6 seconds in the counter, it should be 0-1s from button click. and same with xbox, timer starts before he presses it?

Most likely there is still firmware patches for both systems coming to lower these loading times, I find it really fishy how long either system takes and PS5 should be a lot faster than it shows up here

 

[Thirty7ven]

The difference was always going to be likely minimal in load times. Theres more to loading then raw SSD speed.

Disappointing, I really wanted near instant loading for current gen games.

 

[Aion002]

• PS5 resume from standby: 14 seconds

I blame the PSN.


The PS4 offline is way faster than online. When PSN is acting up, even turning off the PS4 takes some time...

 

[Elias]

Someone on Era says that this isn't because of the SSD speed differences, but because of the Cpu speed difference (3.8 for BC games on the XSX).

But neogaf said that the difference in cpu speed wouldn't matter. :

 

[BlueXImpulse]

The numbers don't mean shit when they don't carry through to real world comparisons though. So who gives a fuck if PS5 IO is 100% faster on paper when that doesn't have any meaningful affect on the actual load times?

So you believe Xbox will perform better in real time. We'll await actual titles optimized for the platform and compare those.

 

[Riky]

How PS5 And Xbox Series X Backward Compatibility Load Times Compare

Here's how PS5 and Xbox Series X perform booting up some of the last generation's most notable load time offenders.

www.gamespot.com

Here's the article

And boot/resume times;

4 seconds, God tier

 

[Danny 117]

Does PS5 BC use the full power of the CPU or does it run capped at 1.6/2.13GHz running in "PS4 mode"? This may be why?

 

[ethomaz]

Odd that the PS5 is slower, I thought BC games would have been similar because these older games are not taking advantage of the newer features of each console.

To different approaches of BC.

PS5 uses a hardware BC mode that emulates the PS4 / PS4 Pro CPU/GPU.
Xbox uses a software BC that uses the full cloks of the CPU/GPU.

PS5 BC will be limited to the original CPU/GPU power unless it is patched to use the actual PS5 CPU/GPU power.

 

[Bryank75]

This is for BC games..... which are not programmed to take full advantage of the new tech. I would wait for the new games to see like for like comparisons.

 

[rnlval]

Wow. All that chest beating mark cerny did about the ssd. What a moron

Cerny is doing his expected job for Sony. Don't call him a moron.

 

[Nikana]

Disappointing, I really wanted near instant loading for current gen games.

I was referring mainly to next gen games when the final code hits. Going from SSD from HDD on Xbox One and PS4 will help cut the times significantly but they will be limited by the file systems being capped. Even going to an external SSD helps a ton on current gen even with it being capped at 500mbs or so reads.

 

[Vaelka]

People are so obsessed with load times lol, it's like the only thing I hear about.
On PC I've never once felt like things took long to load even if this new SSD ends up being faster until it's out on PC ( or an even faster one ) I really think that the whole obsession about loading times is overblown.
I get that game design can change because of it, less walking sections is definitely welcome but still.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

It seems much faster SSD on PS5 lacks...velocity

 

[SlimeGooGoo]

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[Iced Arcade]

Not surprised.


Regardless both are amazing compared to the torturous load times of the current gen.

 

[Jboemios]

Microsoft, please let my Playstation bros win something. We are not allowed to win in everything

 

[Manwithoutfear]

Wow. All that chest beating mark cerny did about the ssd. What a moron

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

 

[Andodalf]

FFXV With a big difference, wow

 

[On Demand]

To different approaches of BC.

PS5 uses a hardware BC mode that emulates the PS4 / PS4 Pro CPU/GPU.
Xbox uses a software BC that uses the full cloks of the CPU/GPU.

PS5 BC will be limited to the original CPU/GPU power unless it is patched to use the actual PS5 CPU/GPU power.

Digital Foundry said it uses full CPU and GPU clocks. Didn't they?

 

[Thirty7ven]

I was referring mainly to next gen games when the final code hits.

Well we have no next gen comparisons so I'll wait on that.

Digital Foundry said it uses full CPU and GPU clocks. Didn't they?

Only the boosted titles.

 

[CeeJay]

So you believe Xbox will perform better in real time. We'll await actual titles optimized for the platform and compare those.

It's not a matter of belief, its a matter of evaluating the results of real world testing that other people have actually carried out between the two systems. PS5 from what I can see is still generally loading the games quicker anyway, its just that its not as meaningful a difference as the numbers on paper would seem to suggest.

 

[ethomaz]

Digital Foundry said it uses full CPU and GPU clocks. Didn't they?

Only if patched to boost mode.

DF

"Could it be that a compatibility mode is in place that limits GPU clocks to base PS4 spec? We know that this is an option available to developers now as they certify their new PS4 titles for PS5 play, and maybe that explains what is going on with AC Unity. Users of the patched game with its 30fps cap will be blissfully ignorant of this, of course."

So they basically confirmed the PS4 and PS4 Pro BC Modes runs at original clocks.

 

[UltimateUnknown]

How are the PS5 load times compared to PS4/PS4 Pro? Because some of these loads look atrociously long. I'm wondering if Sony has pushed out any firmware updates on the system similar to how one that significantly improved load times in Astro.

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

 

[Phrixotrichus]

The PS5 has a much more customized approach to its I/O with its hirarchy levels.
Guess unaltered BC games aren´t exactly coping well with that, yet.


Well, we know the hardware numbers, now the software has to step up.

 

[Bittermich]

It's not a matter of belief, its a matter of evaluating the results of real world testing that other people have actually carried out between the two systems. PS5 from what I can see is still generally loading the games quicker anyway, its just that its not as meaningful a difference as the numbers on paper would seem to suggest.

Did you even see the Video? XSX is loading every game faster, FFV loads more than 20 seconds faster.

 

[DavidGzz]

This is for BC games..... which are not programmed to take full advantage of the new tech. I would wait for the new games to see like for like comparisons.

Yeah, the thread title is correct then.

 

[ethomaz]

The PS5 has a much more customized approach to its I/O with its hirarchy levels.
Guess unaltered BC games aren´t exactly coping well with that, yet.


Well, we know the hardware numbers, now the software has to step up.

Unaltered BC games runs at original PS4 / PS4 Pro clocks.
Even if the SSD is super fast it will only remove the I/O bottleneck and stop at the CPU/GPU clocks bottlenecks.

 

[prinz_valium]

There is something fishy how he presses both consoles on from the controller vs timer.

Like on ps5 he presses the button sloooowly, pauses and then lets go. Just press both like mouse click and start timer then. PS5 beeb comes around 5-6 seconds in the counter, it should be 0-1s from button click. and same with xbox, timer starts before he presses it?

Most likely there is still firmware patches for both systems coming to lower these loading times, I find it really fishy how long either system takes and PS5 should be a lot faster than it shows up here

Even if they have 1 or 2 seconds delay on the PS5, the point still stands.
PS5 is not faster loader those games with a faster SSD.

 

[CeeJay]

Did you even see the Video? XSX is loading every game faster, FFV loads more than 20 seconds faster.

Others have done tests where PS5 has been quicker though no? There is a table posted on this thread with those results.

Edit: Actually, re-reading it, XSX is generally faster at everything... Weird times considering the hype for the PS5 SSD!

 

[reksveks]

So the PS5 is performing better and XSX is loading faster, after everything LOL

Note, performing better at the same resolution/graphics settings as the PS4 Pro.

 

[Bittermich]

Note, performing better at the same resolution/graphics settings as the PS4 Pro.

that means at a much lower resolution than Xbox one X and Xbox series X.

 

[ethomaz]

More info.

See how the loadtimes are on External HDD are very similar to internal SSD?
That is another confirmation of the original clocks in PS4 / PS4 Pro BC modes being the limitation for better loadtimes.

 

[Astral Dog]

The most powerful console won?

 

[Bernkastel]

Someone do GTA V.

 

[DavidGzz]

There is something fishy how he presses both consoles on from the controller vs timer.

Like on ps5 he presses the button sloooowly, pauses and then lets go.

It's crazy to see what people come up with when in denial. So slooooooowly. Heh

Note, performing better at the same resolution/graphics settings as the PS4 Pro.

Exactly, I see people bringing up Sekiro yet it's 4k on XSX and 1800p on PS5.

 

[Rolla]

Both consoles are running on launch firmware, right?

 

[DForce]

There is something fishy how he presses both consoles on from the controller vs timer.

Like on ps5 he presses the button sloooowly, pauses and then lets go. Just press both like mouse click and start timer then. PS5 beeb comes around 5-6 seconds in the counter, it should be 0-1s from button click. and same with xbox, timer starts before he presses it?

Most likely there is still firmware patches for both systems coming to lower these loading times, I find it really fishy how long either system takes and PS5 should be a lot faster than it shows up here

Starts the timer before the button press.

PS5's loading basically completes when the warning message appears, not right when it gets to the menu.

 

[Bergoglio]

The fastest console in the world is not so fast.

 

[JCK75]

PS5 has a clearly faster SSD, but when both of these are put to full use the actual difference between the two IMO will be more milliseconds than seconds.

 

[pasterpl]

Wait, neogaf experts told me that it doesn’t matter if it is a bc game because the raw speeds are faster on ps5, these games will load faster...why did neogaf lied to me? /s

 

[DForce]

Backwards Compatibility in Xbox does not even use the Velocity Architecture.

Neither is the PS5 I/O

BC on both consoles is not taking advantage of the next gen features.

 

[Bittermich]

PS5 has a clearly faster SSD, but when both of these are put to full use the actual difference between the two IMO will be more milliseconds than seconds.

More than 20 seconds are only milliseconds?

 

[splattered]

Can we get a show of hands for everyone that laughed at Xbox's "inferior" SSD and said there was literally NO WAY their software solutions could help close the gap? Anyone? No?

 

[hemo memo]

Yes Series X is faster. The PS5 blazing fast SSD can’t catch up.

 

[Plantoid]

Microsoft, please let my Playstation bros win something. We are not allowed to win in everything

We have astros playroom Hahahahahah


Double the speed, the power of ssd, thanks cerny