Bumblebeetuna
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Because they'll be microsoft customers instead of Sony?
Sadly this seems to be the only depth their arguments have
Because they'll be microsoft customers instead of Sony?
It's very expensive in the medium to long run.
Because if that's the future, it'll be exactly what MS and Don Mattrick were going for with the original XBO plans.
You can have it both ways. You can both have the option to pay for the console over 24 months, with Game Pass and XBL Gold included.. or you can buy it outright and subscribe to whatever services you prefer afterwards.
I don't see why it's a bad thing, to be honest.
What I think the problem is, is adding GamePass to the mix
At face value, it's a great deal. No denying that.
But long-term, I think it'll be harmful to the industry.
Especially since Spencer came out and said that Google and Amazon as their main competitors.
Paid online multiplayer and a heavy push by MS for DLC are proof that something that can be seen as harmless or beneficial can become the norm in a negative way.
What I think the problem is, is adding GamePass to the mix.
At face value, it's a great deal. No denying that.
But long-term, I think it'll be harmful to the industry.
People tend to take 90% of my posts the wrong way, so it's all good.OK - so we're not talking about the split payments you can select for the Xbox. I thought that was the subject. That explains some of the misunderstandings so far.
GamePass is, as you say, a great deal. I agree it can potentially be harmful to the industry. But then again - streaming/subscriptions haven't really ruined the TV/Movie industry. Not yet, at least.
True, that's why it's all tricky.It can be also very beneficial to the industry. Game devs can take way more risks with game pass. no matter how much they sell, they will get their money right in the beginning - if they launch first on game pass.
just look at netflix, what they released and compare it to the movie industry.
People tend to take 90% of my posts the wrong way, so it's all good.
(in general, not directed at you)
Netflix and other streaming services are harmful to cable/digital television though.
Probably at a much slower pace than gaming potentially, but it all starts somewhere.
And given that MS has never denounced the always online DRM strategy and officialy stated that they were just too soon with their plans, I'm not really looking forward to a potential future like that.
(Goes for Sony as well, Nintendo too)
Your point was not about whether or not you can still buy them, the question was why it is a bad thing.Good thing there's always the option to buy it outright then.
I won't define subscription for you, you have the Google too.
LOL, Gamestop.It all comes down to monthly cost. If it adds up to same cost as retail xsx plus 2 yrs ultimate then it could be huge. Current Xbox owners could trade old system in at GameStop for 3rd party games since Ms games will be on gamepass day 1. $34.99 mo for 24 months wouldn't be too bad for everything.
LOL, Gamestop.
Naw, $30 per month is what it would be if X Series X is $499.99 with 24 months of Xbox Ultimate. That is $140 cheaper than retail with 0% financing, similar to the current dealās discount for Xbox One X with 24 months of game pass ultimate. $40m per month would be way overpriced compared to how it is structured now.I imagine it'll be $40 a month with Gamepass included.
Naw, $30 per month is what it would be if X Series X is $499.99 with 24 months of Xbox Ultimate. That is $140 cheaper than retail with 0% financing, similar to the current dealās discount for Xbox One X with 24 months of game pass ultimate. $40m per month would be way overpriced compared to how it is structured now.
$40 per month would be more than retail, not cheaper. Retail would be $500 plus $360 = $860. $40 per month for 24 months is $960, $100 more expensive than retail, defeating the whole purpose of All Access.
Thats 576 Dollars for an Series X.In the US, the Xbox All Access program charges you $24/month for an Xbox Series X, or $23/month for an Xbox One S, or $20/month for the Xbox One S All-Digital Edition. You may off the console over a period of 24 months.
Microsoft are experts in implementing subscription services.
Because the predictability of the revenue of your service is much higher, and people are more likely to extend services once they started using it.The usual shenanigans so you think you pay less and end up paying more. There is a reason why everyone wants to have you on their subscription service and is not making less money.
Because the predictability of the revenue of your service is much higher, and people are more likely to extend services once they started using it.
I don't really agree that you necessarily pay more. You might not have spend 120$ a year on Spotify years ago, but CD's used to cost $20. I definitely used to buy more than 6 CD's a year.Nobody wants predictably low revenue though is it. Subscriptions give you more and you pay more, for the average consumer, you consume more than you would without them. Did I spend 120 a year on music? Personally I didnāt before Spotify and now I do. I have more music I can ever listen to and I spend more in music than I ever did before.
And 2 years of game pass ultimate.Thats 576 Dollars for an Series X.
Yep. They almost increase the gold price. Thank god it backfire so hard that they did the fastest 180 in history. Let's see what's those experts pull off nextMicrosoft are experts in the subscription service.