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NPD Sales Results for July 2014 [Up1: 3DS LTDs, Wii U LTDs, Tomodachi]

Once PSP lost Monster Hunter exclusivity, wasn't it pretty much game over anyway? II'm not discounting other titles that sold well - I mean in terms of software that pushed hardware. It seems like once Sony lost that, rather than coming up with some new proposition, either with a first party title or with a third-party, they kinda just gave up. Whether it was on purpose or not, the Vita also seemed to fall victim to an arms race with Nintendo. When Nintendo didn't come out with another long-battery-life low-cost machine, but instead with something priced at PSP levels, Sony seemed to respond by making the Vita even bigger and better - and costlier (pre-Recession, maybe it works - but post-recession?).

Sony and 3rd party has tried to fill that void that MonHun left. While decent success in their own right, their combined LTDs are a fraction of MonHun 4. I wonder why none of the others are anywhere close to being as popular. Essentially, what would be needed for such success?
 
Just to be clear, are you claiming that digital sales are so significant (lets say 25% or more digital sales for each game) that NPD numbers are being affected by that much?

Yes I am, the digital revenues for the game unit cost itself and other digital content for software.

Just another example I found here:

According to The Wall Street Journal, digital sales of video games have increased 23% to $291.3 million over the same month last year.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2014/03/14/video-game-sales-drop-11-in-february/
 

John Harker

Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.

lyrick

Member
Yes I am, the digital revenues for the game unit cost itself and other digital content for software.

Just another example I found here:



http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2014/03/14/video-game-sales-drop-11-in-february/

That report was worded as though the majority of the increase was accountable to DLC, not digital versions of retail software.

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/03...lides-again-in-february-despite-new-consoles/

One bright spot in February is software delivered over the Internet, which SuperData Research said jumped nearly 23% to $291.3 million. Joost van Dreunen, head of SuperData, said sales were primarily driven by demand for add-on content software, such as additional story lines or maps for war simulation games, which are often sold separately from the traditional games.
 

Kathian

Banned
The emerging markets have been a card in the industries hand for years.

The big big problem? Where consoles are not historically part of a countries culture they struggle to thrive against PC; this is seen globally. There are big middle classes in all these countries showing no interest in video game consoles.

Slight issue there.
 
Don´t you think emerging markets, like BRIC countries, Eastern Europe, Latin America, and the rest will help grow the industry?

This report say pretty much all of the industry growth comes from Asia/Latin America

http://venturebeat.com/2014/05/23/a...f-the-6b-global-game-market-growth-this-year/

Also Chinese game industry still growing fast: Chinese game industry revenues grew to $13 billion in 2013, up 38%

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...revenues_grew_to_13_billion_in_2013_up_38.php
 
Sony didn't have unique brands for their handheld line that people cared about though.

They had to launch the system entirely on what were seen as either spin-offs or b-team versions of console games and new IPs.

Pretty much this.

There was nothing in Sony's first-party/exclusive line-up that, both PSP and Vita that was definitively handheld first.

And even for those games that were handheld focused, it was small games/IPs that were a fragment of the console IP spin-offs, which were already... a fragment of how the mainline titles did on the console.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Surprised Mario Kart is doing well in terms of legs. Nintendo really needs it right now.

I wonder by how much Smash + Amiibo + GC controller will help in terms of reducing their losses if it shares similar legs.
The Wii U hasn't been selling at a loss for a few months now.
 
Doestn affect NPD that much. Those numbers are accounting for all digital, many of which are product not sold at retail at all.

The 10-15% for retail titles is still the best earmark

Ubi's announce that day 1 they sold 20%+ via DD, you hear of that being a new normal for Day 1? Sample size is light, etc...

I'm with you on the 10-15% over a longer period, wondering if any other titles are getting that big a share digital on day 1.

If you have any insight it would be appreciated.
 
Once PSP lost Monster Hunter exclusivity, wasn't it pretty much game over anyway? II'm not discounting other titles that sold well - I mean in terms of software that pushed hardware. It seems like once Sony lost that, rather than coming up with some new proposition, either with a first party title or with a third-party, they kinda just gave up. Whether it was on purpose or not, the Vita also seemed to fall victim to an arms race with Nintendo. When Nintendo didn't come out with another long-battery-life low-cost machine, but instead with something priced at PSP levels, Sony seemed to respond by making the Vita even bigger and better - and costlier (pre-Recession, maybe it works - but post-recession?).

The truth of the matter is Sony ultimately, never ever gave PSP, much less the Vita any real effort in terms of their resources.

We look back and see a slew of great games, first-party and third-party, but the efforts from Sony themselves were significantly on the console side without any shred of doubt. They were focused on building console IPs, and then giving spin-offs to the handhelds instead of nurturing two separate brands on consoles/handhelds, or even giving a notable marque title on the handheld.

That's why I always found the notion of Sony not supporting the Vita (as opposed to the PSP) laughable. Because Sony's been treating the Vita the same way they did, which was giving it games that were never Sony's full efforts in terms of their best resources.
 
Don´t you think emerging markets, like BRIC countries, Eastern Europe, Latin America, and the rest will help grow the industry?

We can always hope. There has been generally shaky success in opening up consoles to other markets. In the absence they've found other ways to play. And breaking someone of those habits... tricky at best. So even if they see a modicum of success in these expanded markets I don't know that anyone should expect the world. Nor would it overshadow the very real market changes happening elsewhere.

This mass exodus of casual oriented players is already likely to eat into not just the unit tally of last gen, but into the generation prior. I place the impetus for market growth almost exclusively on Sony. MS is going to have an uphill climb just to maintain their prior unit total. And by my projections Nintendo is going to lose at the minimum of 85% of theirs.

If Sony increase theirs by 20 million units (105 million) and MS somehow (very very unlikely) manages to maintain theirs (85 million units) with Nintendo's top end of 15 million units you're looking at market contraction of 70 million units from the generation prior. and 5 million from the gen before that. And I do not expect MS to get close to 85 million units with One. At it's current rate it won't pass the 40 million unit threshold. The insane launches of both One and PS4 kind of mask emerging troubling trends within each.

The question becomes how much can the market contract before it's deemed unsustainable. We might be putting that to the test with this generation. Since at this current juncture I see a minimum of a 110 million unit contraction gen on gen. Which could lurch to 140 million units if the current trajectories for each are maintained indefinitely.
 

Square2015

Member
Going with the 81k for WiiU...
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LTDs:
WiiU 2.63m
GC 4.31m
DC 3.40m
 
I was just looking over the vita numbers and while still abysmal, is trending pretty well for a console that was given up for dead by SCEA. After all, although 15k June to ~16K July doesnt seem much, after taking into account 5 to 4 week comparison vita sales actually grew by 33%? With no big vita release, maybe the baseline is actually a bit higher and we were just seeing limited supply?
 
I still feel like Vita will beat Wii U in WW LTD. Sure its dead in USA, but it could be carried by RotW to an extent. In a same way how N64 was carried By USA.

This gen is probably going to be looked back quite harshly. 3 out of 5 systems are disappointments, and its not even that crazy to call 3DS a disappointment in some level. So perhaps even 4 out of 5 systems were disappointments. Last gen was way too big for its own good. Who knows when those kind of numbers will return. Possibly never.

...As I wasnt around on Internet in PS2/GC/XBOX era, I ask, was there anyone as crazy back then trying to say that GC or XBOX could beat PS2? I have still seen people saying that XB1 could match PS4, so I was wondering if that is just basic denial, or if it is something odd happening with XB1.
 

Reg

Banned
Any idea why the weekly ps4 numbers are lower than last months? Could last month's higher numbers be contributed to Watch Dogs?
 

donny2112

Member
Going with the 81k for WiiU...

In case you missed it, see page 21. Just still need
3DS numbers pls
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Any idea why the weekly ps4 numbers are lower than last months? Could last month's higher numbers be contributed to Watch Dogs?

Destiny preorders pulling sales from this month and pushing them to September is my thinking. That plus normal slight July weekly drop from June.

I still feel like Vita will beat Wii U in WW LTD.

Don't go with your feelings (unless you're lumping PlayStation TV into the Vita total and assuming that'll be a big hit).
 
ps2 lasted longer when its best competition launched about a year and a half afterwards. the ps3 lasted way too long, and 2013 was sort of a heat death for the system. the former obviously didn't happen with the ps4, and i strongly doubt sony wants to have the same thing happen with the ps4 if it gets replaced with another console.

I'm pretty sure Sony couldn't be happier with how things worked out - getting as many market years as possible out of R&D is a plus for them. They hung in there long enough to get a game out (TLoU) that utterly maxed out the system and matured their ecosystem with PS Plus. It turned around their perception and won them the hearts of the industry. I think the way current gen has taken off right out of the gate is evidence that they chose a perfect pocket to shift generations in.

I don't think they're sweating at all over heat death you mentioned. I doubt they had pinned high expectations on years 8 and 9 of the PS3's lifespan, those were always going to be the 'sit back and collect FIFA royalties' years.
 
I still feel like Vita will beat Wii U in WW LTD. Sure its dead in USA, but it could be carried by RotW to an extent. In a same way how N64 was carried By USA.

This gen is probably going to be looked back quite harshly. 3 out of 5 systems are disappointments, and its not even that crazy to call 3DS a disappointment in some level. So perhaps even 4 out of 5 systems were disappointments. Last gen was way too big for its own good. Who knows when those kind of numbers will return. Possibly never.

...As I wasnt around on Internet in PS2/GC/XBOX era, I ask, was there anyone as crazy back then trying to say that GC or XBOX could beat PS2? I have still seen people saying that XB1 could match PS4, so I was wondering if that is just basic denial, or if it is something odd happening with XB1.

Xbox not so much, because it was brand new, though there were people who thought Microsoft might just start buying the industry outright.

But yeah, you can look on old usenet posts and find people who thought the Dreamcast was going to pull it out at the last minute and beat everyone. (That may have been a better world) .
 
Xbox not so much, because it was brand new, though there were people who thought Microsoft might just start buying the industry outright.

But yeah, you can look on old usenet posts and find people who thought the Dreamcast was going to pull it out at the last minute and beat everyone. (That may have been a better world) .

Hmm

...
 

Mory Dunz

Member
I still feel like Vita will beat Wii U in WW LTD. Sure its dead in USA, but it could be carried by RotW to an extent. In a same way how N64 was carried By USA.

Yeah, that recent Vita shipment number had me confused, but RotW might be bigger than I'd thought for Vita.

Japan and NPD seem to almost cancel each other. If Vita does ~20K week in japan, and Wii U does ~8K (unless it stays over 10k for good, but we'll see), that gets 80K to 32K.

Then if the NPD averages~70K for Wii U and ~12K for Vita, total it will be 102K for Wii U and 92K for Vita. So, close. (For my numbers I'm just going off my memory of the past months and general trends, so it's not scientific or anything)

So Europe and RotW seem to be the deciding factors.

Wii U vs Vita may be the only interesting battle this gen...
 

John Harker

Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Ubi's announce that day 1 they sold 20%+ via DD, you hear of that being a new normal for Day 1? Sample size is light, etc...

I'm with you on the 10-15% over a longer period, wondering if any other titles are getting that big a share digital on day 1.

If you have any insight it would be appreciated.

Show me the quote?
Does it indicate units sold or revenue?

Makes a difference, since their AAA games now have additional attachments to increase ARPU... digital season pass, microtransactions, etc.

I don't see 20% total retail games sold being digital as 'the new normal' yet, no. It's too scattered; some games do better than others, some don't move at all at digital really. It'll get there I'm sure, but consumers still are showing their preference to buy retail games at retail (i'm not knocking digital, digital is growing very big... just for digital-exclusice content mostly)
 
Don't go with your feelings (unless you're lumping PlayStation TV into the Vita total and assuming that'll be a big hit).

Well Vita is still leading Wii U as of now WW.

Vita USA+Japan 1.9m + 3.1m = 5.0m

Wii U USA+Japan 2.68m+ 1.88m = 4.56m

And there is no way Wii U has beaten Vita in RotW. I mean the poor thing had negative shipments.

It also bugs me how people still give more shit to Vita than Wii U in hardware sales. But eeh, this is the NPD, where Wii U is still leading, so eh.
 

Tigress

Member
Sony and 3rd party has tried to fill that void that MonHun left. While decent success in their own right, their combined LTDs are a fraction of MonHun 4. I wonder why none of the others are anywhere close to being as popular. Essentially, what would be needed for such success?

To tell the truth, I haven't played many of the other monster hunter wannabes. Just a little of Soul something or other (forget the name). And the demo of Toukiden (which does seem good). From my impressions Monster Hunter has a whole lot more to it than just upgrading weapons. Farming, fishing, it's just a lot more extensive, more crafting, more things to balance/create/maintain.

So from my limited experience, that's what the other ones are missing, depth.
 
I'm glad you asked because this thread was in need of a serious dose of reality of what's really going on behind the scenes. Microsoft is obviously taking a page out of Sony's PS3 playbook with the XB1. This is a clear case of under-promising followed by a massive amount of over-delivering (of value).

Microsoft shows the market a $500 console chained to expensive--yet elegant--hardware (Kinect 2.0), a revolutionary form of misunderstood DRM, and graphical components capable of hitting the holy grail of 1080p x 60 fps in games--basically giving the people what they want. And then they go "bam!", we're going to do you one better, folks. No Kinect necessary, but better with it... $400 bundles and $500 ones too if that's what you prefer... We'll save DRM for later when you're more ready for it... You want Madden, Fifa, Halo, and Tomb Raider, you say? Yeah we got to too! So the market goes, "well f*** me, this thing may have been awesome before, but now how could I possibly resist?" The fruits of this strategy will ripen in the coming months and Mattrick's true genius will finally be appreciated.

Many of you can't see the forest beyond the trees. Microsoft knows the majority of a consoles sales occur *after* the first year, so what happens now isn't really important. You can call this the "beta" period, if you'd like. The real party starts in year two. "Let the kids have their fun, but the real games don't begin until we say so." -Microsoft.

They want gamers to experience what the competition offers so that when they inevitably jump (back) in to the Xbox All in One Entertainment Eco-System, they will truly realize what they have been missing and then they will have won a customer for life. In a final stroke of genius, they want you, the gamer, to make the final 180 by turning your back on Sony's trap-box known as the PS4 and embracing true gaming-salvation that is the XB1. Sony's trying to "lock" consumers in by offering loads of "free" games, massive discounts, and a ton of other benefits that only work if you stay in their ecosystem by paying a monthly tax for the rest of your life. Who's forcing DRM down your throat now? You can't just stop paying and bring those games over to the XB1, for example. What kind of idiots do they take us for?

So Microsoft is gearing up for year two which starts this holiday season. Did you know that 80% of console sales occur in the holiday season? Droppin' nuggets of knowledge all day, holla. Microsoft has had the shelves fully stocked for a couple months now, so you could say they already have the jump on sony. Then they just announced about a dozen different variations. It's not one size fits all anymore, folks. That was the old way, the Sony way. You want a 1 TB version with manly COD graphics that you could show off to the b*tches in your neighborhood? We got that. How about a ice cool white one with a free Sunset game included? Yup. Are you a vanilla man? We got the standard SkU for you. Buddies coming over for a kegger this weekend? Grab the madden buddle yo.

Do you want to control your entire home entertainment system with just your voice and hands? The Kinect version is still available! 'Sup now, son. Those lucky gamers get the added benefit of all the motion-games that are in the pipeline from award winning studios like Rare and they can change weapons... with their voice. XB1 amazon rankings aren't so high right now since all the sales are spread out with all these amazing bundles instead of just one or two sku's like the PS4 or WiiU. NPD might miss some of these sku's as well since there are so many coming out all the time. Remember, those numbers are just estimates anyway and Walmart, the largest retailer in teh world practically, isn't a fan of npd so we're not getting the entire picture. Sony's in their pockets, no doubt.

2015, year of the Xbox!

Senjutisu sage 2:0
 

jholmes

Member
I must be reading it wrong... the 2014 totals show somewhere in the middle of ps2 and wii craze, the poster who crunched it even stated "par for the course" ... unsure how this is such bad news.

It's not so much as it's "such bad news" as there are people who are convinced the industry is doing gangbusters and ignoring all data to the contrary. Those numbers together are illustrative. They might not be apples to apples, but let's not forget they're comparing two consoles against the entire industry.
 

donny2112

Member
Well Vita is still leading Wii U as of now WW.

Vita USA+Japan 1.9m + 3.1m = 5.0m

Wii U USA+Japan 2.68m+ 1.88m = 4.56m

And there is no way Wii U has beaten Vita in RotW. I mean the poor thing had negative shipments.

$99 PlayStation TV (which is Vita TV and which Sony will probably include with Vita shipments) could do quite well. It's certainly priced for it. With Vita/PS TV lumped in, Vita might end up above Wii U in the end. As it is now, Vita has an extra year on Wii U, and while Vita (the non-TV version) is being phased out of U.S. stores, Wii U has too strong a 2015 lineup for stores to take it out. Just can't see the year headstart holding out over Wii U sales for another year without PSTV mixed in, though.

However as Sony will probably lump them together and never give us individual version breakdowns, it's probably a moot point to talk about them separately.
 

Amentallica

Unconfirmed Member
You are delirious my friend... Xbox now is a Regional Console, is dead all around the world... and... next year sony will bring The Order, BloodBourne, TearWay, Ratchet&Clank, Uncharted and for sure more stufff...

How did you read that post and think it was serious?
 
The doom and gloom in these threads are hilarious. Yes the console market is undergoing a contraction, and yes the casual bases has moved to mobile. But that does not mean the sky is falling and everyone is about to shut up shop and start making iOS games.

As long as publishers become more realistic with expectations budgets and development teams things will remain profitable.

Yes the chances of winning the AAA lottery are less and developers that don't heed this are on the fast track to closure but that's down to them not reading the warning signs.

Basically, console gaming is still a profitable industry. But the graphics arms race will lead to ruin. The way forward is a return of the midtier market and Indies.
 

Jomjom

Banned
$99 PlayStation TV (which is Vita TV and which Sony will probably include with Vita shipments) could do quite well. It's certainly priced for it. With Vita/PS TV lumped in, Vita might end up above Wii U in the end. As it is now, Vita has an extra year on Wii U, and while Vita (the non-TV version) is being phased out of U.S. stores, Wii U has too strong a 2015 lineup for stores to take it out. Just can't see the year headstart holding out over Wii U sales for another year without PSTV mixed in, though.

However as Sony will probably lump them together and never give us individual version breakdowns, it's probably a moot point to talk about them separately.

As much as I wish this would happen I just can't see it. The FireTV is failing and that has way more visibility than a Playstation TV would have. I just don't see Sony doing any marketing for this thing and so only the people who know about the Vita would know about the Playstation TV.
 
I'm glad you asked because this thread was in need of a serious dose of reality of what's really going on behind the scenes. Microsoft is obviously taking a page out of Sony's PS3 playbook with the XB1. This is a clear case of under-promising followed by a massive amount of over-delivering (of value).

Microsoft shows the market a $500 console chained to expensive--yet elegant--hardware (Kinect 2.0), a revolutionary form of misunderstood DRM, and graphical components capable of hitting the holy grail of 1080p x 60 fps in games--basically giving the people what they want. And then they go "bam!", we're going to do you one better, folks. No Kinect necessary, but better with it... $400 bundles and $500 ones too if that's what you prefer... We'll save DRM for later when you're more ready for it... You want Madden, Fifa, Halo, and Tomb Raider, you say? Yeah we got to too! So the market goes, "well f*** me, this thing may have been awesome before, but now how could I possibly resist?" The fruits of this strategy will ripen in the coming months and Mattrick's true genius will finally be appreciated.

Many of you can't see the forest beyond the trees. Microsoft knows the majority of a consoles sales occur *after* the first year, so what happens now isn't really important. You can call this the "beta" period, if you'd like. The real party starts in year two. "Let the kids have their fun, but the real games don't begin until we say so." -Microsoft.

They want gamers to experience what the competition offers so that when they inevitably jump (back) in to the Xbox All in One Entertainment Eco-System, they will truly realize what they have been missing and then they will have won a customer for life. In a final stroke of genius, they want you, the gamer, to make the final 180 by turning your back on Sony's trap-box known as the PS4 and embracing true gaming-salvation that is the XB1. Sony's trying to "lock" consumers in by offering loads of "free" games, massive discounts, and a ton of other benefits that only work if you stay in their ecosystem by paying a monthly tax for the rest of your life. Who's forcing DRM down your throat now? You can't just stop paying and bring those games over to the XB1, for example. What kind of idiots do they take us for?

So Microsoft is gearing up for year two which starts this holiday season. Did you know that 80% of console sales occur in the holiday season? Droppin' nuggets of knowledge all day, holla. Microsoft has had the shelves fully stocked for a couple months now, so you could say they already have the jump on sony. Then they just announced about a dozen different variations. It's not one size fits all anymore, folks. That was the old way, the Sony way. You want a 1 TB version with manly COD graphics that you could show off to the b*tches in your neighborhood? We got that. How about a ice cool white one with a free Sunset game included? Yup. Are you a vanilla man? We got the standard SkU for you. Buddies coming over for a kegger this weekend? Grab the madden buddle yo.

Do you want to control your entire home entertainment system with just your voice and hands? The Kinect version is still available! 'Sup now, son. Those lucky gamers get the added benefit of all the motion-games that are in the pipeline from award winning studios like Rare and they can change weapons... with their voice. XB1 amazon rankings aren't so high right now since all the sales are spread out with all these amazing bundles instead of just one or two sku's like the PS4 or WiiU. NPD might miss some of these sku's as well since there are so many coming out all the time. Remember, those numbers are just estimates anyway and Walmart, the largest retailer in teh world practically, isn't a fan of npd so we're not getting the entire picture. Sony's in their pockets, no doubt.

2015, year of the Xbox!
Holy shit I wasn't actually expecting you'd show up xD! I'm ready to laugh (and maybe discuss).

Senjutisu sage 2:0
CEO of Misterxmedia Inc.
 

Bgamer90

Banned
The Xbox One figure of 131k is barely above the pre-pricecut rate of sales. So much for "maintaining momentum".

...During a month with hardly any new releases for the system. $400 SKU (and bundles) should definitely help in the upcoming months. System really needed to be under $500 before the Xmas season IMO.
 
Who does this?

Well Vita bashing just happened few pages ago. Althought it was also about Sony bad mishandlement of Vita so that is fair.

Rereading this thread, there were a lot more sarcasm and disappointment for Wii U than I remembered. I apologize for false statement. :v

$99 PlayStation TV (which is Vita TV and which Sony will probably include with Vita shipments) could do quite well. It's certainly priced for it. With Vita/PS TV lumped in, Vita might end up above Wii U in the end. As it is now, Vita has an extra year on Wii U, and while Vita (the non-TV version) is being phased out of U.S. stores, Wii U has too strong a 2015 lineup for stores to take it out. Just can't see the year headstart holding out over Wii U sales for another year without PSTV mixed in, though.

However as Sony will probably lump them together and never give us individual version breakdowns, it's probably a moot point to talk about them separately.

Ummm bad news, but sometimes quality =/= high sales. Just look at Wii U now. A lot of 1st party games are highly praised. It is still worst performing Nintendo console ever. Also nothing tops Mario Kart + Smash combo. Cmon. Zelda is even in decline.
 
...During a month with hardly any new releases for the system. $400 SKU (and bundles) should definitely help in the upcoming months. System really needed to be under $500 before the Xmas season IMO.

I just don't see it helping much with the PS4 destiny bundle right around the corner. If that game goes gangbusters (which it looks like it will). It's going to be the grab of the holiday seasons. I just think it needs better bundle or price cut if it hopes to compete.
 

NastyBook

Member
*reads PR statements*
Okay, requesting somebody with photoshop skills to make THIS into a gif with Sony as Crying Man, Nintendo as the other cat with a Tommy Gun, and MS with that pea-shooter. It's just so apt.
 
Oh, I was inspired By Vita vs Wii U comment:

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Timmy is Wii U because he is stuck staying the same thing as is Nintendo with same games, while Jimmy is Vita because he can speak better but stutters just like some Vita games too.
 

AgentP

Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
...During a month with hardly any new releases for the system. $400 SKU (and bundles) should definitely help in the upcoming months. System really needed to be under $500 before the Xmas season IMO.

PS4 Destiny bundle is ranked higher than the two new XB1 bundles, which are a few days old. The Destiny bundle has been listed since June and has been in the top 20 most of August. Let that sink in...
 

Bgamer90

Banned
I just don't see it helping much with the PS4 destiny bundle right around the corner. If that game goes gangbusters (which it looks like it will). It's going to be the grab of the holiday seasons. I just think it needs better bundle or price cut if it hopes to compete.

Both systems should do very well. But (as I pretty much said before) the Xbox One would be in a much worse position for people planning to transition into this (new) current gen this upcoming Holiday season if the system was still $500.

________

PS4 Destiny bundle is ranked higher than the two new XB1 bundles, which are a few days old. The Destiny bundle has been listed since June and has been in the top 20 most of August. Let that sink in...

Heh, okay? Never said that the PS4 isn't going to do better in the upcoming months -- I have pretty much said that it will. However, the Xbox One should still pick up as more games come out and the $400 price is going to help out with that. It would be in a worse position if it was still $500.
 
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