That moment when MLB is the highest rated first/second party exclusive over a year a half from launch... Ouch.
Hopefully Blood does well.
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The Order 1886 Review Thread
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That moment when MLB is the highest rated first/second party exclusive over a year a half from launch... Ouch.
Hopefully Blood does well.
Final Verdict
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User impressions matter more to me than scores in determining if I will get at game, so I probably will get it, but just once it is a bit cheaper like Ryse.
I wasn't saying it was completely rationale, but there's a trend of mediocre to bad AAA games right now that's hard to deny. Skepticism is a natural reaction to that.
Well he should be working at that hour
Anyway, does that really strike you ?
I genuinely like Shinobi and his passion overall, but he was never a particularly critical guy on any game
lol memories.
djblackice
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Combined with his post history on GAF, it's not surprising.
Just like seeing some other driveby's in here as well.
Le_Samourai
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Well that's disappointing, but im gonna buy it anyway.
Freeman
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Can anything be worse than Ryse? That game is pure shit and I played it on PC.
TheChocolateWar
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blazinglazers
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Honestly, it sounds like you just can't read. Seeing as the negative reviews are about the crappy quality of the story & gameplay, not the lack of upgrades.
Well regardless of the overall quality, with it being this short and nothing to offer another playthrough, pre-owned markets will likely be flooded quick which should drive the price of both new and second hand copies down.
Nightengale
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Why does shinobi matter in the grand scheme of things?
At the end of the day, he's not part of the devs, or even part of the publishers. He has his resources that allows him to probably hear, and maybe even see some stuff earlier than we do, but it's not like he gets to actually play a development build of unreleased/unannounced games.
Shinobi was told some things about the game. Its length, its narrative focus, etc. All of it was true. But that doesn't mean the quality holds up.
ChocolatePuddin
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I had a feeling this game was going to tank. I watched this video where this guy claims to be some kind of video gaming mystic, who can apparently see if games will suck or not, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0eZtxGCARQ
He pretty much called it spot on like a month ago, who would of thought.
He pretty much called it spot on like a month ago, who would of thought.
If you read most reviews, the main complaint is that it just isn't a very good game - even with the few mechanics it has.
FF Seraphim
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See I whole heartedly disagree with the scores DC and KZ:SF received to me they are at least solid 80s.
This generation of reviews just seem so off base with my personal opinion it is just so damn odd, wasn't like this last gen...
The way you shot down opinions from people that actually played the game makes me think that wouldn't necessarily do the trick. "Looking at the scores of more recent games and then looking at the score the Order received just confirms these scores were set in stone quite a while ago." (lol)
Like maybe one day people realized there isn't some grand conspiracy against whatever you decided to like.
Tractopoulpe
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I must admit I'm not surprised at all at the scores. On the other hand, I don't know what some of the reviewers expected, but what they think are "cons" are things that are the core of the game. I think RAD aimed for that "interactive movie but still a videogame feel", and they succeeded. I viewed The Order as a game you must play for the "experience" it offers, just like you would watch a movie for the same reason, movie that you'd watch again occasionally because you enjoyed it. Oh well, I'm not going to write a novel but I'm kinda upset about some of the stuff I'm reading.
This thread was at page 4, I drive to work, and it grows by 30 pages.
And wow, those scores. I thought I was being a tad pessimistic when I predicted it would get low to mid 70s. I wonder how what's his face is going to defend that "$100 steak" comment when the game is sounding more like value menu hamburger.
And wow, those scores. I thought I was being a tad pessimistic when I predicted it would get low to mid 70s. I wonder how what's his face is going to defend that "$100 steak" comment when the game is sounding more like value menu hamburger.
Yeah, it's an apt comparison, though I do think The Order plays a LOT better overall. It's much more refined, mechanically, and less repetitive...but there's less overall gameplay.
Like Ryse, however, it's very technically accomplished. Unlike Ryse, all of its cutscenes are real-time.
At the speed he usually posts news threads here, I'm pretty sure Shinobi is a computer AI from the future.
I expected the game to score low, but dayum
Sony tends to get -2 review handicap because they don't strong arm publications and don't have the money to sweeten their relationships with them. Then there's the fact that they tend to be very hands off, and use their IPs as loss leaders. If they're not, all the better.
EA and Ubi have the deep pockets to market a mess of a game and find friendly eyes at the big sites. Not everyone does though. A better context would be they actually get a +2 handicap
Mass_Pincup
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I enjoyed it too but to say that it's longer is just false, I played on the highest difficulty too.
I agree that paying 10$ for it (thanks again btw) helped in my appreciation of the game.
Yes, we could see 1886's problems coming a mile away even though i didn't really want to think bad of RAD considering their previous track records...
Its just unfortunate they spent all their time on the graphics engine. Sure in the visuals department it paid off, but every other area suffered because of that. It was the wrong call. Santa Monica should have been working on their own game in the time they spend assisting RAD
I'm consistently seeing the reviews note the length in the 6-8 hour range, and that it feels short and incomplete. All the video playthroughs, which there are now several, including collection complete ones, are in the 5-8 hour range.
How in the heck did so many Gaffers claim the game was a 14-hour experience? I wouldn't feel the need to ask, but there was clear effort to highlight the longer play-times, with an "average" of 12+ hours brought up often enough that it readily comes to mind.
There's more nuance to games than just whether they're "cinematic" or not. People seem to think those other games were better than this one. You can read why in the write-ups themselves.
How in the heck did so many Gaffers claim the game was a 14-hour experience? I wouldn't feel the need to ask, but there was clear effort to highlight the longer play-times, with an "average" of 12+ hours brought up often enough that it readily comes to mind.
There's more nuance to games than just whether they're "cinematic" or not. People seem to think those other games were better than this one. You can read why in the write-ups themselves.
maquiladora
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I guess I'll pick it up when it's dirt cheap on a sale sometime. So glad I didn't pre-order.
The Order apparently.
Sunset Overdrive and Forza Horizon 2 are awesome. Are we ignoring some recent exclusives on purpose?
Smash Brothers and Captain Toad?
There have been some great recent exclusives.
I agree with your last 3 lines.
GeordieMark
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Lol. Still defending. Still haven't played it.
Were they released this gen?
also hard to deny that naughty dog and miyazaki are head and shoulders above most of the teams that have had games launch so far this gen that are labeled AAA. so ok.
Hire this guy, RAD!
Phoenician_Viking
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I don´t feel bad about RAD, honestly. They wanted to make this game, it´s their vision, and they did not want to lower themselves to make portable games. Besides i don´t believe if reviews are it means the game is bad.
No the majority does not want "new experiences" whatever that means. That´s why there are so many sequels. People like them and buy them. Just because you don´t like a franchise, it does not mean that the franchise should not exist, and you should not ruin the enjoyment of millions of people by saying that games should not exist anymore. How selfish are you?
FYI, they are making a new GOW game.
No the majority does not want "new experiences" whatever that means. That´s why there are so many sequels. People like them and buy them. Just because you don´t like a franchise, it does not mean that the franchise should not exist, and you should not ruin the enjoyment of millions of people by saying that games should not exist anymore. How selfish are you?
Freeman
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Why do you assume that?
shinobi602
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What's up?
Pop
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What did MCC score again...yeaaaaaaaaa
Man you need to learn how opinions work. A lot of people, including myself, thought Ryse was terrible. I couldnt play the game for more than 20 minutes before sending it back to Gamefly. I'll see if the Order holds up better.
Crossing Eden
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I knew the reviews would be bad, but..not this bad holy shit. :O
Reviews are about where I expected them to be. I'm still picking up tomorrow (will trade some stuff I'm done with) and will formulate my own opinions. Despite the mediocre reception, I'm still interested in the story, setting, atmosphere, cinematics and sexy visuals.
Plan is to buy, play, finish in a couple of days and then trade for Dying Light when it gets a physical release in the UK on 27th Feb.
Plan is to buy, play, finish in a couple of days and then trade for Dying Light when it gets a physical release in the UK on 27th Feb.
Eurogamer Italy 8/10
http://www.eurogamer.it/articles/2015-02-19-the-order-1886-a-un-passo-dal-capolavoro-recensione
Canadian Online Gamers 8.6
http://canadianonlinegamers.com/review/the-order-1886-review/
http://www.eurogamer.it/articles/2015-02-19-the-order-1886-a-un-passo-dal-capolavoro-recensione
Canadian Online Gamers 8.6
http://canadianonlinegamers.com/review/the-order-1886-review/
Melchiah
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Even if they had sold it, it would still count as a sale. Moving the goalposts doesn't change the sales figure. You could ask the same question about any other game as well.
Considering the PS+ upgrade costs 25€ now, and the physical edition 39€, I'd wager the digital option is more attractive.
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