Every fictional drama is forced drama, since it's all constructed by the author to be drama.
So, yeah, in that sense, you're right!
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Every fictional drama is forced drama, since it's all constructed by the author to be drama.
So, yeah, in that sense, you're right!
Well the whole point of his character is to dufes in one punch.
Poetic.Injustice
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There's a thing called making the characters in a story relatable. Having him be the most OP hero ever and have the admiration of every one would be a poor dynamic. That's what makes OPM funnier and better written than other stuff.
The public are stupid and rely on the ranking system more than they do anything else. They aren't that hard to fool.
They tried to gauge Saitama's power level with a machine before. It was basically infinity, but because the hero who made the machine couldn't believe that someone of his rank could have such power, he assumed that Saitama was so weak that his power level didn't register.
But in terms of measurable power
Saitama punched through a beam that was supposed to be strong enough to destroy the planet, so that specific punch was around 50 quadrillion megatons of power at least, I think. I need a physicist to check the math.
Aaronology
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I think you've misunderstood the premise of OPM. Saitama never receiving credit (for whatever reason) is one of the core running gags of the entire series.
Edit: I think we're veering into dangerous territory with some of these spoilers, btw.
He IS a comic relief character.
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
I don't think this is forced. Saitama, as this seen should be the second example so far in this series, will play the bad guy if its necessary to bring people together. If you really want to over-analyze this then the fact of the matter is that those people are all in a state of shock trying to rationalize seeing the people they call heros (folks who are he last barrier between them and extinction in their world) be destroyed. Seeing they people who are ranked to protected them get taken out and the one below them take out the monster may be easily be acceptable by you but what's a more pleasant interpretation would be those who you trusted to do the work mattered and if the weakest amongst them finished it then the power-base you've come to believe in is something you will ignore details to continue to do so. This is just human nature.
It's still my personal theory but I believe One is making Saitama a Christ-like figure. It would be a stretch to say that Saitama has a savior complex but I feel he has a very strong belief that being a hero is selfish thing even if that existence means being the most selfless being alive and this is why he's able to take in peoples hate and confusion as burdens. To Saitama, that emotional pain is the same pain as the donkey punch from the Sea King -- if he can't handle either type of pain then what does it mean to be powerful. This is the other aspect I think the author is going for -- to prove that he's become this powerful being he wished to become, he's not only willing to face the greatest physical pain by taken on the strongest but he's also willing to take on the greatest mental pain by focusing all of it on himself. It's a selfish act for him but is the perfect selfless act that's a result of home he wished to be.
It makes me excited to see whether this to its extreme will break Saitama and if my feelings bare out, the payoff will be powerful and tragically beautiful. So that's all an over-analysis while we're at it but I fall on the side of something really great is being carefully built up and not forced.
MetroidPrimeRib
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Mumen Rider is like Saitama's ideology and guts but none of his strength, so probably not
Neoriceisgood
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Y'guys realise I was talking about the power of the monsters, not Saitama right?
Admiral Woofington
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Mumen Rider seems to simply be what Saitama wants in superheroism. Just the drive, it's what got him into it in the first place.
Turin Turambar
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The "drama" word is a bit too much, Saitama is a new hero and people don't know him, it's clear that bit a bit as he climbs up the ranking and defeat other big monsters he will be more and more known.
Aaronology
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Yep. Rider having the same hero philosophy as Saitama but with none of the power to back it up is what makes him so awesome.
Nah, Genos' whole character is to be a pretty boy jobber.
What if he goes through Saitama's supposed training regiment
Admiral Woofington
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The point of all of this is that very few people actually stand a chance against these demon/god level enemies, it'd probably take a majority of the S class heroes to defeat the sea king if not one of the top tier ones.
Genos is strong but unfortunately for him they keep bringing in villains he can't fight lol. Armored Gorilla was strong if you think about it, he won that battle. Even if off screen.
Genos is strong but unfortunately for him they keep bringing in villains he can't fight lol. Armored Gorilla was strong if you think about it, he won that battle. Even if off screen.
Nah, its to be the best disciple.
Why does it make no sense? Seriatim doesn't have any real challenge in the monsters he fights, so I kind of like the fact that the real issue he's facing is the public's perception of him and his fellow heroes. He isn't really an underdog at all - he's so good that he makes all the other heroes look bad. But instead of allowing that to happen, because he recognizes the importance of heroes, he chooses to demonize himself to maintain their image.
Really liked this ep. Interesting enough, this is the one extra chapter that the anime used (in the Murata-One collab, but not in the webcomic).
Also, people in this thread seemed to have forgotten how young the whole hero association is. It's only been 3 years since the system has been in place. It's completely private and relies on donations from the public to fund it. Imagine if the current bounty hunter system we have in reality was filled with insanely strong individuals and average people all trying to get into the business. It'll be just as chaotic as what is happening in One Punch Man in terms of the drama and assigning credit on who did what.
Also, people in this thread seemed to have forgotten how young the whole hero association is. It's only been 3 years since the system has been in place. It's completely private and relies on donations from the public to fund it. Imagine if the current bounty hunter system we have in reality was filled with insanely strong individuals and average people all trying to get into the business. It'll be just as chaotic as what is happening in One Punch Man in terms of the drama and assigning credit on who did what.
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
I really question that. Are their ideologies really the same? Similar maybe but identical? Again, I admit my "new shit" is really over-analyzing this series but I would posit the core difference is that Rider believes that anyone can do hero-like things while Saitama believes that's just what it means to be human and that to be a hero, one needs to have the power to save humanity from any power.
Bingo.
Permanently A
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What a great episode. I really liked the voice acting for Genos when he got acidified, he genuinely sounded and looked like he was in serious pain.
Because he feels bad for the heroes that lost. They sacrificed everything and risked everything and he really believes in that and thinks it should be appreciated. It seemed to him the people would disregard their efforts if he didn't give them credit.
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
BennyBlanco
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This is the only anime series that's ever succefully held my interest since I was a kid watching DBZ. The Sea King character design was so good. Kinda got Tim Curry Pennywise the clown vibes a few times lol.
Aaronology
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Saitama doesn't glorify power at all. We've seen some fairly strong Heroes in the anime so far, but Rider is the first Saitama has shown respect for. "If Heroes run away, who's left to help?" is the line he gave to Genos, remember? He never pays attention to threat levels when going out to fight a monster. At first you might think this is because he's so strong he doesn't have to, but we know he already had that drive before he gained his power. Protecting the innocent and facing a challenge head on, regardless of how strong it is, seems to be the core part of Saitama's idea of Heroism. Rider encapsulates that despite being on the other end of the power scale.
I get that , but the way he did so made him seem like more of a fraud to the public. He could have talked some sense into the people instead of acting as if he was weak. I guess that didnt matter since he got his promotion.
LucidMomentum
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Sometimes people care more about their community than themselves. Saitama isn't in it just for the fame.
Poetic.Injustice
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Manga spoilers: How Strong is One Punch Man?
i knew this was going to get some play lol
Shouta
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He knows people consider him a fraud. Even if he tried to talk some sense into them, it'd just take a few rabble rousers to turn the crowd against him. Rather than try and do that, he brought the other hero's up by using that negative image of him. Remember, he doesn't care about fame, he cares about doing the right thing. The right thing for him in this case is getting the job done and not making the efforts of the other heroes be in vain.
Oh you know we're going there one day.
Captain Rage Quit 69
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Yeah, this episode really made Mumen/Licenseless Rider stand out for me. He's a real good guy compared to a lot of gloryhogs, and I can tell that (ep. 9 spoiler)
Oh, and Genos vs. Sea King was a crazy start to the episode, I was already on the edge of my seat and we didn't even see the intro play yet lol. Animation got pretty jank, but I'm sure the next few episodes will more than make up for it.
By the way, just what is the spoiler policy here? How long do we spoiler current episode events for, like a few hours after it's released or what?
he'd probably try to downplay himself for the sake of the other heroes just like Saitama if they switched places.
Oh, and Genos vs. Sea King was a crazy start to the episode, I was already on the edge of my seat and we didn't even see the intro play yet lol. Animation got pretty jank, but I'm sure the next few episodes will more than make up for it.
By the way, just what is the spoiler policy here? How long do we spoiler current episode events for, like a few hours after it's released or what?
Admiral Woofington
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well he cares about fame but in a superficial level. Deep down he wants to do the right thing regardless of his personal image, but superficially he does want to be at least recognized and thanked for. Hence all the jokes about people not knowing him.
TacticalHotdog
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He doesn't really care about the credit, he just does it for fun. He just tries to divert attention in this case because he doesn't want the people to give up hope in the other heroes and the association.
Aaronology
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Admiral Woofington
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I actually like the rain stopping in the anime. Jokes that even on a weak punch of his shit goes insane.
Shouta
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Feeling appreciated is different than seeking fame though.
It stopped in the manga too.
Admiral Woofington
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True. It does seem like at the very least he jokes that he wants to be recognized/famous though. He had the fantasy of the fan girls and a big incentive to joining the heros association was because nobody knew who he was.
If you're talking about the particular scene like with Genos jumping towards the sea king and losing detail, that's just a trick/style these guys use to keep the fluid animation when the characters are far away.
Poetic.Injustice
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It doesn't.
MetroidPrimeRib
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It's just a style that makes it look more fluid which may come off as awkward.
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