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[User 73706]

Right, okay. That's fair enough then. But why not just let people choose their gender? This just feels like a stunt or trolling and people who don't want to play as an opposite gender must be 'sexist'.

let it be known, being a woman is just a gimmick and/or trolling Creation

 

[komplanen]

I thought this game had died a quiet death but I'm glad to see it hasn't. Such a good idea :-3

 

[GamingOblivion]

HALF the population don't identify with their gender in real life? HALF? What utter bullshit. It must be about 1% at most.

With their game character. You know, when half the world's population who identify as female are playing all those games with men as the main character?

The only one bringing in politics is you, kid.

 

[bltn]

I almost want to reinstall this again just to check out how I did in the lottery.

 

[Valkyr1983]

With their game character. You know, when half the world's population who identify as female are playing all those games with men as the main character?

The only one bringing in politics is you, kid.

OK but 99.99 percent of games make you aware of gender options or dedicated gender for the main character before buying

This game doesn't

All those women are free to buy only games with female options and vice versa.

 

[GamingOblivion]

OK but 99.99 percent of games make you aware of gender options or dedicated gender for the main character before buying

This game doesn't

All those women are free to buy only games with female options and vice versa.

So? That's the choice of the developer.

Why are you even choosing me to tell that to? I was correcting some dude's incorrect view on what the developer was saying lol

 

[Valkyr1983]

So? That's the choice of the developer.

Why are you even choosing me to tell that to? I was correcting some dude's incorrect view on what the developer was saying lol

Sure is. But all the people who bought this game before the female update won't get a new rng with possible female MC?

 

[moggio]

Sure is. But all the people who bought this game before the female update won't get a new rng with possible female MC?

Everyone got randomly assigned a new gender.

 

[Angelus Errare]

the tears are amazing

 

[PhoenixDawn]

Booted it up for kicks and found out a I have a female avatar. Pretty cool, but probably won't jump back into the game until a few more updates/QOL changes are added.

 

[Valkyr1983]

So? That's the choice of the developer.

Why are you even choosing me to tell that to? I was correcting some dude's incorrect view on what the developer was saying lol

You were making some point about all the women playing through games with male MCs. My point is, how many of those games randomly decided they have to play as male and they were stuck with it?

In those cases if that was an issue the game could have not been purchased. People who don't want to play as a female Avatar in rust might have already bought the game then been re-rolled into one, correct? Or is that not how this works?

 

[moggio]

People who don't want to play as a female Avatar in rust might have already bought the game then been re-rolled into one, correct? Or is that not how this works?

Yes and boo-shucks to them.

Some of these saddos are trading their accounts so they can play as their preferred gender.

 

[Valkyr1983]

Everyone got randomly assigned a new gender.

Even people that bought the game before there was the option for female Avatar? That's what I figured

 

[moggio]

Even people that bought the game before there was the option for female Avatar? That's what I figured

Yes.

 

[Valkyr1983]

Yes and boo-shucks to them.

Some of these saddos are trading their accounts so they can play as their preferred gender.

Yeah boo shucks to them I guess. I don't play PC games so I don't care (and certainly wouldn't play a janky iterative survival sim #19845

Just saying that I can understand since money exchanged hands for a product that has been significantly altered for some people, it might piss some off.

The comments on forums are gross of course, no standing up for that.

 

[moggio]

Yeah boy shucks to them I guess. I don't play PC games so I don't care (and certainly wouldn't play a janky iterative survival sim #19845

Just saying that I can understand since money exchanged hands for a product that has been significantly altered for some people, it might piss some off.

The comments on forums are gross of course, no standing up for that.

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What the developers have to say:

“We are in very early development. Some things work, some things don't. We haven't totally decided where the game is headed - so things will change. Things will change a lot. We might even make changes that you think are wrong. But we have a plan. It's in our interest to make the game awesome - so please trust us.”

If you buy the game and you don't read that, you've only got yourself to blame really.

 

[LQX]

9 times out of 10 I use a female in my games if given the choice but I'm not a fan of people just brushing this off as "funny" as it sort of the issue most have had had with games not giving you a choice.

 

[Valkyr1983]

If you buy the game and you don't read that, you've only got yourself to blame really.

Sure

There's so many more talented devs making survival games on steam I don't get hangup, I'd just move on to something else if it was an issue

Then again I didn't spend any money so that could be the difference

 

[Mr_Zombie]

You were making some point about all the women playing through games with male MCs. My point is, how many of those games randomly decided they have to play as male and they were stuck with it?

In those cases if that was an issue the game could have not been purchased. People who don't want to play as a female Avatar in rust might have already bought the game then been re-rolled into one, correct? Or is that not how this works?

If you're buying the game after this update, you should be fully aware that the gender and skin color will be randomly assigned to your SteamID.

If you bought the game before this update you should be fully aware that since this is an Early Access game, nothing is set in stone until the game releases (see: all those games that went through multiple total changes during its development time). And gender (as well as skin color, height, and other gameplay mechanics) is one of those things that can change.

 

[MUnited83]

9 times out of 10 I use a female in my games if given the choice but I'm not a fan of people just brushing this off as "funny" as it sort of the issue most have had had with games not giving you a choice.

But this game is still more diverse than those? Yeah, they might not give you the choice, but your race and gender are random. Thats not what happens in the other games you're talking about.

 

[PedroLumpy]

9 times out of 10 I use a female in my games if given the choice but I'm not a fan of people just brushing this off as "funny" as it sort of the issue most have had had with games not giving you a choice.

I wouldn't want all games to be like this, but as a one off? Pretty cool I think.

 

[Valkyr1983]

But this game is still more diverse than those? Yeah, they might not give you the choice, but your race and gender are random. Thats not what happens in the other games you're talking about.

Does it really matter if my character is hand picked by the Dev or dice rolled using Formulas?

End result is the same, a character people can't relate to or want to play as

There are women in the forums that got re rolled into a male again, I can imagine it's frustrating

 

[MrGerbils]

Can someone take the time to cross reference posts in this thread with posts in the Zelda NX male/female link thread?

I'm sure there's some overlap in ridiculousness..

 

[Gold Coins for Cats]

This ultimately seems a tad asinine, though I can almost sympathize with a misaffected customer purely on the basis of them not getting what they think they paid for.

With any luck this may cause trends to reverse on buying games before they are finished. People who feel like they got burned will only want to vote with their cash after they've seen the final product. Well, if they're smart.

Such a shame I'm in two minds about this.

 

[MrRudiMentary]

People complaining are dumb. It's an avatar in a first person game. It has no affect on gameplay. If you can't play a game without being a certain skin colour, dick size or gender, then you have a problem. That goes for women too.

The argument that people have already paid for this game is also dumb. The devs said they were implementing this before now and they stuck to their word. Consider that a blessing when it comes to you buying a Steam early access game.

 

[LordCiego]

Loving that some people have to come to terms with something that for other people its something they have to get with it daily.

Also this happening has been know for months, I barely follow rust and know about it, if you paid for it you should have known it was comming.

 

[potatohead]

This is as hilarious as "I can't identify with the MC because he's black" posts from years ago with stuff like GTA SA.

Even worse people tried to hide it behind facades like "I'm not racist but..." Lol wtf.

God damn people are whiney little bitches these days. Can't play a game because the gender is not what you want lmao. Gtfo of here with that egotistical shit.

Isn't that the point of this game? To make all these stats and whatever a lottery for the player. It's just a natural extension of the game principles already in the game.

It's like it's not even Early Access or something......

Really if the problem with a game is the gender of a character, stop playing the game and go outside. You need to do some real-world learning if that's you.

 

[Dr. Kitty Muffins]

While I like the "social experimental" nature of what they're trying to do, it really rubs me the wrong way that I paid 20 bucks for this game and, when they add changes and content like this, they're essentially taking options away from me and telling me how to play their game.

This is always the problem with fascism.

 

[CountAntonius]

Eurogamer Interviewed Garry(Newman) about this when the update launched. Some choice quotes.

"When we talked about character customisation we realised that a lot of games that were coming out went that far into the customisation that it was 80 per cent of the game," he told me. "In interviews they were showing the character customisation, not the game itself. Which is a bit f***ed. So we decided we didn't want to go down that route.

"We were also talking about how we hate how players are recognisable by their names floating over their heads. How in an ideal world players would be recognisable by what they look like. And this would be consistent and follow them around permanently.

"We landed on randomising player's appearance and locking them to it, then working on a bunch of different heads and customisation attributes that would make players more and more unique.

"We're still fighting our way towards that," he added, "but that's why it is like it is."

He explained that Rust pulls a player's appearance attributes from the SteamID itself, treating it as a random seed. Your SteamID isn't directly viewable - it's not your Steam name - but you can work it out using some helper websites. Mine, for instance, is STEAM_0:1:22710889. Maybe the gender algorithm has something to do with numbers being odd or even?

"It's the SteamID itself," he explained. "It's used as a random seed, then these attributes are pulled from that seed. This way it's different for every SteamID - but it's also consistent. It also has the effect of being totally balanced, so half of players will be female, half will be male etc."

I also asked Newman whether there was any wiggle room in the future for periodical character re-assignment.

"No wiggle room," he answered. "You are who you are. Before we added different races and genders you played as a bald white guy - you never had a choice. So we're not taking a choice away from the player, we're just adding more variety to the player models. I don't believe that playing as a different gender/race detracts from anyone's enjoyment of the game."

 

[Brazil]

Eurogamer Interviewed Garry(Newman) about this when the update launched. Some choice quotes.

That final bolded part is amazing. Not having a choice is fine, as long as the only option is bald white guy.

Disgusting.

 

[Aselith]

That final bolded part is amazing. Not having a choice is fine, as long as the only option is bald white guy.

Disgusting.

Game doesn't have Marie Roses or Honokas though. It's all Ayanes. More variety please!

 

[Aces&Eights]

I don't think the stream comments are funny, rather, extremely sad and depressing. It reflects how insecure, racist and sexist some people are and that means I'm dealing with then when I'm out in real life.

 

[potatohead]

"No wiggle room," he answered. "You are who you are. Before we added different races and genders you played as a bald white guy - you never had a choice. So we're not taking a choice away from the player, we're just adding more variety to the player models. I don't believe that playing as a different gender/race detracts from anyone's enjoyment of the game."

This is by far the best part of that statement lol.

I love it

 

[Piggus]

9 times out of 10 I use a female in my games if given the choice but I'm not a fan of people just brushing this off as "funny" as it sort of the issue most have had had with games not giving you a choice.

Not every game has to give you the same options. Rust gives you far more freedom to choose how you play than most games.

 

[Canklestank]

Thought the penis was pixelated, nope, Its just small.

This is awesome. I can't wait until they add more races/variations. I wonder if people would rage about different hair colors, too lol.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

Is this game still in beta?

 

[pyros]

It's so weird that people feel emasculated by a gender profile

 

[moggio]

Is this game still in beta?

It's in Alpha but in a very playable state and is updated every week.

 

[SupaNaab]

I would be incredibly curious if people form bonds in-game over their race/sex.

 

[DorkyMohr]

Is there a third person mode or do you need someone else to screenshot you to figure out what you are?

 

[Mesoian]

I would be incredibly curious if people form bonds in-game over their race/sex.

I bet within 2 years, we get our first "we got married in Rust" story.

Also, this season's anime is truth being stranger than fiction.

 

[Aselith]

Is there a third person mode or do you need someone else to screenshot you to figure out what you are?

You see it in the inventory as you can equip clothes from there and it has a paper doll to display what the clothes look like.

 

[Pejo]

Honestly I really want to pick this up just to see what I roll, but I'm going to wait for a bit cheaper. I haven't been bitten by the survival game genre bug yet.

As far as the actual change, I love it. I'm way more OK with this than something like selecting Link's gender.

 

[NecroGiggles]

Man I love what the devs did here, so great!

 

[QuantumSquid]

That final bolded part is amazing. Not having a choice is fine, as long as the only option is bald white guy.

Disgusting.

I really don't understand how you pulled that out of what Garry said.

 

[Jack Remington]

I feel awful for that Caucasian woman with no penis. Terrible deformity to be born with.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

It's in Alpha but in a very playable state and is updated every week.

That sounds weird, but okay.

 

[Aselith]

I really don't understand how you pulled that out of what Garry said.

He meant the people reacting to it.

 

[orochi91]

lmbo

The struggle is real for that poster, lol

 

[Firehead]

I really don't understand how you pulled that out of what Garry said.

As in, people bitching about this didn't start until he added variety to the randomly generated models. That's what's disgusting.