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Demo was for PS+ and only 2 characters available and no Versus Mode...
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Don't forget Versus Mode!
Demo was for PS+ and only 2 characters available and no Versus Mode...
he's talking about this http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=205153175&postcount=270 and YSO averages
Hellraider
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Total: 373.860
Total: 372.539
Total: 594.749 (thanks, hiska-kun!)
Joegrine_TT
Member
Jesus Splatoon
Hellraider
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Total: 334.940
Total : 198.363
A good measure for Musou collaborations is that LTD sales of next entry usually are lower than first week sales of previous.
Can i ask an honest question to all guys?
Who believe Splatoon will hit 2 million total in Japan (Wii U version alone)?
I remember that back in September/October of last year people called me crazy for this prediction, just for know if people still think so or they changed theyre opinion.
Who believe Splatoon will hit 2 million total in Japan (Wii U version alone)?
I remember that back in September/October of last year people called me crazy for this prediction, just for know if people still think so or they changed theyre opinion.
I imagine they're losing a fair amount of the fans of the IP who play the games and either don't like them, or decided they had enough.
I've said it for a while but I think it still has a chance to hit 2 million by the end of the year.
It's basically outselling the Wii U for 2016 - pretty much the main game that's leading to those new Wii U owners in my opinion.
I'd like to see if Overwatch is able to show some legs in Japan - I think the game could become a hit if reception is positive in Japan. It's the type of shooter that might be a lot more popular in Japan.
Would have to wait and see how it does this holiday season, though i can see it hitting 1.7-1.8 million at most. When you say Wii U version, i'm assuming you believe the NX splatoon port could happen, in that case it definitely will reach 2million.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Is 3DS still on track to outsell PS2? What do you guys think?
PS2: 21.98M
3DS: 20.63M
PS2: 21.98M
3DS: 20.63M
Lol of course it will. No chance for not happening.
Also, what numbers are you using for 3DS? It's at 20.77 million according to Media Create and 20.63 million according to Famitsu.
Assuming digital will be 200K by end of year, for sells 2 million in 2016 it need an avg. of 13,800 unit all weeks in 2016.
I can see it selling easy >20K during Christmas holidays week, but is unlucky 2 million in 2016...
I think it will surpass, or well ending close to it, in 2017... depend on the new Wii U bundle.
Yes NX port at this point is super likely.
That said 1.7 million looks impossible to me, this mean that the game need to sell only another 150K or so from now. 1.8 million i would say is absolutely the minimum, and i think this is still low, but we will see.
Ōkami;204910963 said:
Updated number for Famitsu Top 30 digital sales document
There are probably better ways to present the information but for now here's one graph
Orniletter
Banned
I really don't like how Square Enix is managing Dragon Quest now.
Each game used to be a big event for the japanese market, it was a premium brand through and through, like what Final Fantasy in the PS2/ in the pre XIII-era was.
Now there is another game releasing every two months. This is unsustainable.
Each game used to be a big event for the japanese market, it was a premium brand through and through, like what Final Fantasy in the PS2/ in the pre XIII-era was.
Now there is another game releasing every two months. This is unsustainable.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Drop off with DQH 2 smaller than i thought it would be .
Wonder what the DD numbers for GGR are since they had a sort of early access version if you bought it on DD.
Wonder what the DD numbers for GGR are since they had a sort of early access version if you bought it on DD.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Dr. Feel Good
Banned
Do we ever really expect the Japanese market to rebound ever again? There's little interesting movement or trends that come out of the country any more.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Rebound from what exactly? Can you be more specific?
They have exported Splatoon and Yo-kai Watch recently and 3DS has sold 20 million units.
It's not like you need to buy everything with the DQ brand on it on release date. Spin-offs are not a new thing. They remade every mainline game in the series except IX. They even remade some spin-offs too. And there's also mobile...
DQ XI will be as big of an event as those you mention.
I think it's pretty obvious he's talking about the sales of dedicated devices and games in Japan in aggregate (which are going down consistently) as opposed to what Japan is exporting overseas (where market share is also collapsing, but that's a separate discussion).
The next handheld from Nintendo is the only possibility at this point. And even then, it'd be a lone survivor (optimistically, gobbling up the 3DS and Vita audiences and developers) and so probably not even that would really "rebound" in its entirety unless the whole NX scheme goes off real well together.
Handheld is really the only possibility for a strong recovery (with flexible definitions of "strong") as can be seen with the 3DS's massive figures, and the Vita's continued survival (trucking along) and major contribution to sales much to Sony's and their marketing's chagrin.
First entry attracts the IP fans. Second entry tries desperately to keep as many of them around as possible. Third entry, everyone is bored with the formula.
The only chance to see any kind of revival is to wait for next handheld. If you expect return to 2006-2007 it's not happening.
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
Why is everybody so hopeful about the next handheld of Nintendo. That market has been hit harder this last gen then the home console market, it went from 50m+ (PSP/ DS) to 25m (PSV/ 3DS). Sony probably won't even release a new one and there is no indication whatsoever that Nintendo's next handheld can stop the bleeding, let alone compensate for Sony's exit. The 3DS underperforming coming from the DS (especially software) is one of the under reported stories this last gen on this board, the WiiU failure overshadowed it i guess.
Fun thing:
[PSV] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo # <ADV> (Square Enix) {2016.01.28} (¥5.980) - 178.016 / NEW (47,8%)
[PS4] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo <ADV> (Square Enix) {2016.01.28} (¥7.800) - 141.369 / NEW (37,9%)
[PS3] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo <ADV> (Square Enix) {2016.01.28} (¥6.800) - 53.154 / NEW (14,3%)
Total Sales: 372.539
[PS4] Dragon Quest Heroes II: The Twin Kings and Prophecy's End <RPG> (Square Enix) {2016.05.27} (¥7.800) - 184.820 / NEW (49,4%)
[PSV] Dragon Quest Heroes II: The Twin Kings and Prophecy's End <RPG> (Square Enix) {2016.05.27} (¥6.800) - 120.664 / NEW (32,3%)
[PS3] Dragon Quest Heroes II: The Twin Kings and Prophecy's End <RPG> (Square Enix) {2016.05.27} (¥6.800) - 68.376 / NEW (18,3%)
Total Sales: 373.860
Both games sold practically the same, but Builders had a better attach rate on handheld (almost half of the sales were on Vita). On the other side, Heroes II has better attach rate for the PS3 and the PS4 version.
[PSV] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo # <ADV> (Square Enix) {2016.01.28} (¥5.980) - 178.016 / NEW (47,8%)
[PS4] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo <ADV> (Square Enix) {2016.01.28} (¥7.800) - 141.369 / NEW (37,9%)
[PS3] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo <ADV> (Square Enix) {2016.01.28} (¥6.800) - 53.154 / NEW (14,3%)
Total Sales: 372.539
[PS4] Dragon Quest Heroes II: The Twin Kings and Prophecy's End <RPG> (Square Enix) {2016.05.27} (¥7.800) - 184.820 / NEW (49,4%)
[PSV] Dragon Quest Heroes II: The Twin Kings and Prophecy's End <RPG> (Square Enix) {2016.05.27} (¥6.800) - 120.664 / NEW (32,3%)
[PS3] Dragon Quest Heroes II: The Twin Kings and Prophecy's End <RPG> (Square Enix) {2016.05.27} (¥6.800) - 68.376 / NEW (18,3%)
Total Sales: 373.860
Both games sold practically the same, but Builders had a better attach rate on handheld (almost half of the sales were on Vita). On the other side, Heroes II has better attach rate for the PS3 and the PS4 version.
Well in Japan 3DS sold well
I'm personally not expecting Nintendo's next hand it to hit PSP numbers or maybe even GBA numbers, but considering it's the only potential hardware that can sell over 10million units in Japan there's nothing else to really put our hopes in
DriftingSpirit
Member
Well, there is nothing else to hope for.
I do agree that the potential impact of Nintendo's handheld is being overstated though. Japan is a wasteland and there is only so much that can be done. Especially when they will probably be the only even attempting anything on the handheld side.
It depends on what you define as a rebound.
The 3DS moved 2.34 million units last year. If the NX can do better than that in 2017, it would likely move the market's revenue up, especially since the cost is probably going to be more than the 3DS currently is.
I don't think there's any real likelihood that it produces a lasting improvement in the market though and would expect things to be down from here by this time next generation.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Well at the end of the day Japan is still the second biggest market only behind North America.
[citation needed]
The doom posts are old and tired. I really don't see the point of comparing sales from 2010s to 1990s, those are two completely different realities.
Sales are low this year because the market leader is dying, but if everything goes right NX will bring life to Media Create charts again in 2017.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Comparing it to the 90s is an extreme that I also think is tired. However, even if you look at it by itself, it isn't pretty. There are salvageable parts but it is a mess overall.
I think the issue is more that current sales are bad even compared to the early 2010s:
The NX has a pretty big deficit to fight against, but it should hopefully be a notably better situation in the first part of the upcoming generation.
Toward your UK market note, that is actually a pretty heavily dying development center that was gutted by Canada having much better financial incentives for publishers. Similarly Germany and France have pretty pathetic development industries relative to their stature given they're heavily outclassed by Scandinavian countries. That said, the UK still put out GTA V.
SurfaceofChristianity
Banned
Even if, those are terrible numbers.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Yeah, what was the Overwatch opening in UK?
I don't think we ever got actual numbers but Uncharted 4 with around 27k that week was in between the two Overwatch SKU's, while the platform split was 47% PS4 to 36% X1 iirc, so we can make some rough maximum to minimum estimates. Maybe someone done them in the PAL thread, haven't checked it today.
Edit. Thank you Loudninja!
DriftingSpirit
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DarkLordMalik
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I am surprised to see Heroes doing as much on Vita considering the first game wasn't even released on it. I am sure it would have easily surpassed the PS4 version if the original was released on Vita along with the sequel.
RyougaSaotome
Member
I imagine the early-access-ish demo for GGxrd probably had some kind of effect on sales. There was no reason not to go digital, especially when you were basically getting the arcade game at home a month or so early.
The next handheld would need a unique hook and support akin to the PS4 to even hit 3DS numbers at this rate.
Edit:
Really? I'd thing the opposite considering theres novelty to it being the first/only Vita version.
Edit:
Really? I'd thing the opposite considering theres novelty to it being the first/only Vita version.
On mobile but a few post above those we had early reports pegging the total at 300k.