TBH though. Who cares if the movies are good and still showcases the characters?
That's also not to say there wouldn't be team up movies.
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Matt Reeves on The Batman: Its a standalone, this isnt part of the DCEU"
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TBH though. Who cares if the movies are good and still showcases the characters?
That's also not to say there wouldn't be team up movies.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Flashpoint is coming out in 2020 and will probably retcon the entire DCEU other than Wonder Woman and cast someone else as Batman.
Inferno313
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This is a good point.
Gordon Shumway
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Ummm..weird?
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Honestly, this sounds like nobody is actually steering the ship. Like we don't even know if Gotham City Sirens still exists. Ayer says yes, the next day it's not even on their release schedule. But with the Joker origin news we know that Leto is in for Suicide Squad 2 and a Harley Quinn spin-off. Is that spin-off Sirens? If so, why not name it? *shrug*
A poster totally called this yesterday with the Joker news.
Jason Frost
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And if they fuck it up again, just have another Flashpoint.
"Alright everyone, Affleck seems to be on his way out and we just had to revamp the entire ending of Justice League. How can we scrap the DCEU for now and still keep the goodwill from Wonder Woman going? Anyone?"
"What about Flashpoint?"
"Good work!"
broncobuster
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So those THR Affleck rumors stemmed from potentially misunderstanding Matt Reeves' comments here?
His comments are more inline with what's known and said about Wonder Woman and Aquaman. Ostensibly telling their own stories within the broader context of a shared universe. Basically like how comics have operated for decades.
His comments are more inline with what's known and said about Wonder Woman and Aquaman. Ostensibly telling their own stories within the broader context of a shared universe. Basically like how comics have operated for decades.
LegendofDragoonLives
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wait wtf.. is this real?
Wasn't that before Snyder dropped out, the Affleck leaving the role, and the Justice Leage ending revamp rumors really heated up?
Glass Shark
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how are they so bad at this???
bananafactory
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I mean he explicitly said it's not a part of that universe. I feel like it's super clear.
Sweeney Tom
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What A Shitshow: The DCCU Experience
GCS still exist. It was apart of Margot Robbie's deal with WB.
Doctor Decimate
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I do wonder if stuff like Logan and Deadpool have affected the way DC is thinking about this whole business of a cinematic universe.
I won't be too upset if they go for more standalone films. It was what made the DC direct-to-video animated movies cool; you got to see different art styles and different voice actors basically doing whatever they wanted with the idea that people would follow these characters regardless, that you didn't need continuity so much. I think it'd be a neat approach for their movies.
Though on the other hand that approach ended up shoving Batman into everything and creating a disproportionate number of Batman films because that was all people wanted to buy. Then they seemed to try for an interconnected universe to combat that before giving up and just making more Batman shit so maybe it's not actually a good idea.
Inferno313
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No? That was like... a month ago.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Can't have Scarecrow or the Riddler in the Legion of Doom in the big finale of Justice League because kids might confuse it with The Batman cartoon, or even the Nolan movie!
Harvey Dent couldn't even appear in The Batman. One of the most well known and important Batman characters...
Justice League also had to deal with the Aquamanembargo due to a movie that never even went anyway, so Black Manta had to have a rip off version added, and Aquaman himself never appeared again, despite basically every DC hero ever made being in Justice League Unlimited.
What a mess.
He's talking about the latest Comic Con slate.
No? This interview was a few days before comic con.
thanks sorry, i brain farted and was thinking of something else
bananafactory
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Same. This could be great
They just greenlit 3 Spider-man films without a Spider-Man
Lights and Waves
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I mean...we're all posting on the same forum about video games. I don't think it's fair to look down on people that have a vested interest in DC and film.
It's all gravy if the movies are good. But if WB let's the directors do their own thing I can see that causing problems for the tent pole, team up movies. The standalones will be better but the team ups could suffer.
Just to clarify though, this is a good thing. I'm glad Reeves isn't beholden to a grander plan- but you still need a plan if you're going to have a DCEU. I just don't trust the brass at WB to come up with a mutually beneficial one
IdreamofHIME
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They need to cozy up to Feige, Amy Pascal style,and ask if Iron Man can cameo in one of these movies.
The Aunt May movie? A stand alone Batman movie is more desperate than an Aunt May movie?
Lights and Waves
Member
Sirens is dead IMO.
I think they're going to combine Mad Love and Harley & Ivy into one movie and make that the Harley Quinn spin off.
Wasn't this or any stand alone Batman movie supposed to take place before the events of MoS?
Meaning in a world without the super being out and about? So in that sense, he can perfectly make a movie about Batman and Batman alone without any need to connect to a larger world.
Either way, I am super excited for what he does with Batman, especially since it will be closer to the type of movies Nolan made than Snyder.
Meaning in a world without the super being out and about? So in that sense, he can perfectly make a movie about Batman and Batman alone without any need to connect to a larger world.
Either way, I am super excited for what he does with Batman, especially since it will be closer to the type of movies Nolan made than Snyder.
Chained Prometheus
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Honestly, I don't think it matters much if The Batman ends up being a DCEU solo feature or something entirely detached from that canon. I have faith the film will be fantastic, so long as Reeves is allowed to do his thing. If that means making the Batman films separate from the DCEU, I bet it's for a damn good reason.
All I'm saying is that I think this increases the already high likelihood that Affleck isn't Batman anymore and that WB are just sitting on that news until after they release Justice League and get that out of the way.
All I'm saying is that I think this increases the already high likelihood that Affleck isn't Batman anymore and that WB are just sitting on that news until after they release Justice League and get that out of the way.
I think he means are people really going to be concerned if these movies have little to do with the current universe?
I mean if the movies are good no one fucking cares. You got a damn good WW movie that did great at the BO that really had little connection to what's going on currently outside of the actress and a scene at the start of the movie.
For the standalone movies that's what they need to do and I imagine that's what's going to happen.
Imbarkus
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WB sit on news?
Context really matters in this situation. At the point and trades agree, Joker origin would be the first and so far only confirmed Elsewords film.
Lights and Waves
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*Wonder Woman.
Iron Man cameos don't seem to be as effective as we once thought they were.
Eh after JL it seems they were mostly going towards the standalone route anyway. Aquaman, Batman, Batgirl, Nightwing, Flash whenever that gets a director.
The only movie they've announced that would be another tentpole was Flashpoint. Which would no doubt reboot shit.
broncobuster
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Ouch.