The other reason is the fact we only have the Nintendo Switch as a platform, so we can focus all of our firm’s development resources to make software for it.
I wasn’t shit posting. This year has been lacking compared to previous years and I don’t count wii u ports as a substantial addition to the switches library. Nintendo has been lazy lately.Good for them that they do my shitposting friend.
I don't know if in 2023 a new Switch would still have sense.2023 at the earliest is when you should see a Switch 2 of sorts.
I was thinking the exact same things. All things considered, I was also examining how they managed their previous consoles while Microsoft, Sony, and further back Sega were launching new consoles. Nintendo really seemed to shift their direction away from high-graphic accelerations (competing against other platforms based on the power of the engine) and they turned toward focusing more on game play. N64, PS1, and Saturn were all trying to rival for "best graphics" during the mid-late 90's. However, when the amazingly high powered PS2 and XBOX original launched shortly after the Dreamcast; it would seem that Nintendo didn't try to compete to out-do their competitors in graphics. However, they proved with the GameCube, Wii, WiiU, and now the Switch that people will buy your material if you make it universal and wholesome. I like all the competitors but I uniquely like Nintendo for this reason.Good. The Switch doesnt need to worry about next gen consoles. It will be just fine as it is.
A lot of games will be cross gen for another couple years so you'll still have developers targeting base current gen consoles and if they do that it's still possible to port games to Switch.
Then of course Nintendo has all its own games. More Pokemon, more Zelda, more Mario, etc.
All I want from Nintendo is a revised Switch with more battery life. Otherwise it is perfect. If they were really concerned they could do a 4K Switch that plugs into the wall and is not portable...but they don't need to
It's a fun game. Very similar to Nier Automata (same developers I think)...story wasn't the greatest but combat is fantastic.
They want to extend the Switch's life as much as possible. An enhanced pro version can do exactly that.
Pretty sure Nintendo next gen console will be this gen game ports at worse quality.
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2023 would be suicide. At that point it's not even unlikely that there will be talk of upgrades for XSX and PS5, LOL.Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft all begin work on their next systems shortly after the current one releases. So while Nintendo says they have no plans to release the Switch successor anytime soon, that doesn't mean it won't be released in the future. 2023 at the earliest is when you should see a Switch 2 of sorts.
2023 would be suicide. At that point it's not even unlikely that there will be talk of upgrades for XSX and PS5, LOL.
It's not about matching the others. It's about having the minimum hardware to make even a poor port a consideration for third-party devs.Since when has Nintendo ever cared about trying to match Sony and Microsoft in recent years? Nintendo will roll out a more powerful successor to keep up with new technology, but they're pretty much done with the main console race.
I mean the Switch launched just a few months after the PS4 Pro, and the same year as the Xbox One X. That didn't stop it from becoming a massive hit though.
I wasn’t shit posting. This year has been lacking compared to previous years and I don’t count wii u ports as a substantial addition to the switches library. Nintendo has been lazy lately.
It's not about matching the others. It's about having the minimum hardware to make even a poor port a consideration for third-party devs.
People are talking about Lockhart holding back the whole gen. Current Switch hardware 3 years from now is gonna get... what? Who's gonna bother with that? In 2023 devs will laugh at the question "what about a Switch version?" like they laughed when asked about a WiiU version of games in 2013.
We've seen what happens when Nintendo sleep on their laurels and start thinking their first-party games are the only thing needed to keep selling hardware. I mean, they can be happy letting Switch turn into a pure Pokémon and Animal Crossing machine, but that would be demeaning. 3DS was successful even after the initial struggle because they changed the hardware to make it better and because they had a ton of third parties. 3DS almost never had a dry spell; Switch is getting there now, no matter how successful AC and the Pokémon DLC are. It's still only two games.
WHERE'S THE FUCKING SWITCH PRO
It'll all come down to cost at the end. I'm sure Nintendo will be more than happy to get the best and the latest, as long as Nvidia gives them a good price which Nintendo can sell to us for $299 and still make profit.Well, this depends on what Nintendo and nVidia decide to do about a Switch successor. It has two hardware choices here, the Xavier chipset or the Orin chipset.
The smartest move would be to go with the Orin chipset. At 7nm, 1024 Ampere CUDA cores (double that of Xavier's CUDA core and nearly half the size. Could be more but safest to assume just double), 16GBs of LPDDR5 and the ARM Hercules (5nm 12 cores), the Switch's successor could get downgraded PS5/XSX ports, but not on the same level as the current Switch gets from the PS4/XBO. The gap would definitely be closer to the PS5/XSX than the Switch is to the PS4/XBO. It's unknown how many tensor cores it's TCU would have. And while I can see nVidia adding some sort of Raytracing Unit (because nVidia), I couldn't see it working well in handheld mode at 15w. Still, 7nm would save so much more on power to performance, and just be cheaper all around to make. Think of it as if there was an RTX 2050, or (more realistically) just a GTX 1650 in your hand.
On the other hand, Nintendo and nVidia could go with the currently available Xavier chipset. Depending on which set, it could be 512 12nm Volta CUDA cores (double that of the Switch, at 4nm smaller and two generations ahead of it), ARM Caramel (8 core) and 8 to 16GBs of LPDDR4X, if they went with the AGX model. Going with the Nano NX model, it's the same but with 386 CUDA cores instead of 512. Both have a 48 core Tensor unit. nVidia claims the smaller NX model can get 3 TFLOPS (FP32), I doubt it, but who am I to argue with the company who made it. The AGX running at the same 15w would supposedly get 4 TFLOPS.
While I am aware nVidia swears the newer tegra models can't run games, people are already running emulators on the Xavier nano NX (runs Gamecube like a champ). So it's clearly possible to just use a stock Xavier or Orin. Hell, if the 3TFlops is true, then nVidia needs to make a Switch Pro out of it.
I'm not sure how much difference it will make as they're hardly getting any same day AAA third party support as it is. They'll continue to get the medium and small third party games from Japan, even after next gen launches.It's not about matching the others. It's about having the minimum hardware to make even a poor port a consideration for third-party devs.
People are talking about Lockhart holding back the whole gen. Current Switch hardware 3 years from now is gonna get... what? Who's gonna bother with that? In 2023 devs will laugh at the question "what about a Switch version?" like they laughed when asked about a WiiU version of games in 2013.
We've seen what happens when Nintendo sleep on their laurels and start thinking their first-party games are the only thing needed to keep selling hardware. I mean, they can be happy letting Switch turn into a pure Pokémon and Animal Crossing machine, but that would be demeaning. 3DS was successful even after the initial struggle because they changed the hardware to make it better and because they had a ton of third parties. 3DS almost never had a dry spell; Switch is getting there now, no matter how successful AC and the Pokémon DLC are. It's still only two games.
Funny you say that as I wished Sony and Microsoft would release something similar to the switch.Well that sucks. I wish they would release something similar to PS5/XSX.
Has been debated to death, but there isn't a clear upgrade path for off the shelf Tegra parts. Nvidia shifted newer Tegra parts to accelerate self driving cars & deep learning focused workloads.I think there will be a new Switch soon with just a newer Tegra than the Tegra X1. Should be easy to "switch :] " and maintain backwards compatibility.
Reggie pilfered it on his way out, brap.WHERE'S THE FUCKING SWITCH PRO
Dam she's mad lol
It'll all come down to cost at the end. I'm sure Nintendo will be more than happy to get the best and the latest, as long as Nvidia gives them a good price which Nintendo can sell to us for $299 and still make profit.
Thats ok, i know some gamers will joke or complain about this, but this makes good business sense Switch deserves a large life cycle and when Switch 2 comes out, it will have better specs (compared to current and next gen systems) than if it was rushed.
For example Nintendo throws a healthy Wii out of the window for a Wii U, they were convinced the userbase would quickly move over to the new thing, but releasing a console is complex they didn't stopped to think if their gimmick was gonna work out
Later Nintendo was forced to come up with Switch earlier to replace the Wii U, they had luck they could recycle part of their lineup for portable play and its been a huge success.
The combination of reasonable price, decent tech and appealing games lineup has to be there for the Switch 2 on the first year, its ok if it takes a little longer but it will be worth the wait
Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft all begin work on their next systems shortly after the current one releases. So while Nintendo says they have no plans to release the Switch successor anytime soon, that doesn't mean it won't be released in the future. 2023 at the earliest is when you should see a Switch 2 of sorts.
Yes, unlike a noble company like Sega which refused to milk the Sega CD or 32x.Knowing Nintendo's past they will milk the switch as much as possible until sales start to decline dramatically...
Would mean they have enough time to make the switch (heh) to AMD.
Nintendo Switch Successor may be Powered by Samsung SoC w/ AMD RDNA Graphics | Hardware Times
In line with earlier rumors, it seems that Nintendo is all set to ditch NVIDIA for the next-gen Switch console. As per sources, the Japanese console maker will leverage Samsung’s Exynos chips powered by AMD’s RDNA 2 graphics for its Nintendo Switch 2 console. Samsung will reportedly design...www.hardwaretimes.com
I’m happy with their first party titles, even if the output has been dry lately (I have a huge backlog so all good). But it would be great if they could keep the options open for more 3rd party ports.People are perfectly happy with what they have now in the Switch, so why would Nintendo bother with a Switch Pro or successor anytime soon. Can't say I blame them as the money keeps rolling in
Lastly, it’s not like Nintendo ruled out a “Switch pro” though as a “Switch Pro” could technically still be considered the “same platform”. Moreover, in an interview with Games Industry, Dr Serkan Toto also said in January 2020 he has no doubt a “Switch Pro” will be launching this year. That was before the pandemic ravaged the world though so who knows what would happen now.
Nintendo's just keeping their options open. nVidia is not going to want to be shut out of the console market again, though as far as we know, they haven't iterated much on Tegra. Still a lot of time on the clock before next gen.
Idk I don't think Nvidia really cares about them - margins are too low & they don't particularly need the volume. Heck, Nvidia's trying to marginalise even the desktop GPU segment and that's half their bloody business!
Idk I don't think Nvidia really cares about them - margins are too low & they don't particularly need the volume. Heck, Nvidia's trying to marginalise even the desktop GPU segment and that's half their bloody business!
It's literally just that - nVidia wants a horse in the console market.
Why?
Wii U: Our system is not selling, time to get the next gen system out on the market.“Hey this thing we spent all this money on is selling gangbusters and making us super rich, should we do something else?”
“Nah.”
“k you’re right.”
Can't say I'm clamoring for a new console right now. It's pretty shocking to realize it's been four years, to me it feels like the Switch is just about halfway through its life cycle.