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NeoGAF Ban Review/Justice Project

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Tschumi

Member
well not that shocked futurama GIF
 
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Ornlu

Banned

Happosai

Hold onto your panties
I've been taking time in toward the end of my company breaks to hop into Community, and Off-Topic. I check through here and I can't say I disagree at all with the recent bans. I don't like sounding like a broken record but why are people so insistent on getting worked up with politics in a gaming forum? Sometimes it even makes the console warriors getting banned seem more dignified.
 

Tesseract

Banned
I've been taking time in toward the end of my company breaks to hop into Community, and Off-Topic. I check through here and I can't say I disagree at all with the recent bans. I don't like sounding like a broken record but why are people so insistent on getting worked up with politics in a gaming forum? Sometimes it even makes the console warriors getting banned seem more dignified.
 

ManofOne

Plus Member
Why was Ornlu Ornlu permed? I don't think he was being disrespectful in the context of the conversation (unless rude PMs were sent) . It just seems some members are genuinely trying to distinguish what is conspiratorial and what isn't.

Is it possible to move Ornlu Ornlu ban to a temp and remove him from politics.


He's genuinely a very good poster and it seems that the frustrations he may felt that were happening in the wider environment were seeping here. This forum is one of the very few forums that fosters allows the exchange of ideas along a political spectrum but it seems one half of that spectrum has been slowly removed over time and that not due to moderators fault.

Conservatives or at times moderates (like myself) in general, we firmly believe in the right or freedom of speech. Now of course that doesn't mean we all believe that all speech or thoughts should be allowed or be given a platform e.g hate speech, advocating violence, pedophilia etc.

But when you see a slow movement that shifts that goal post on what can and cannot be said it becomes a problem and I understand that it can become a problem for the site and its moderation.

However you can see as this shifting in the goal post becomes more prominent over time it, certain members, more so conservative members will be banned because its an attack on our very political values which almost has become a religious attachment.

I hope we can find the balance in the future rather than lose some great members .
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
He's been at this the entire time since the announcement, ManofOne ManofOne . After a point it's obviously less of a genuine line of questioning for clarification and more of a way to undermine and antagonize passive-aggressively at every turn. I'm not going to entertain a purely antagonistic relationship with a user indefinitely, and the new guidelines are not going to be repealed. People need to make their choices.
 

ThatGamingDude

I am a virgin
Why was Ornlu Ornlu permed? I don't think he was being disrespectful in the context of the conversation (unless rude PMs were sent) . It just seems some members are genuinely trying to distinguish what is conspiratorial and what isn't.

Is it possible to move Ornlu Ornlu ban to a temp and remove him from politics.


He's genuinely a very good poster and it seems that the frustrations he may felt that were happening in the wider environment were seeping here. This forum is one of the very few forums that fosters allows the exchange of ideas along a political spectrum but it seems one half of that spectrum has been slowly removed over time and that not due to moderators fault.

Conservatives or at times moderates (like myself) in general, we firmly believe in the right or freedom of speech. Now of course that doesn't mean we all believe that all speech or thoughts should be allowed or be given a platform e.g hate speech, advocating violence, pedophilia etc.

But when you see a slow movement that shifts that goal post on what can and cannot be said it becomes a problem and I understand that it can become a problem for the site and its moderation.

However you can see as this shifting in the goal post becomes more prominent over time it, certain members, more so conservative members will be banned because its an attack on our very political values which almost has become a religious attachment.

I hope we can find the balance in the future rather than lose some great members .
I'd agree with a temp and a full ban from politics Personally I would also give him a 6 month tag and have a conversation via email before I'd release the ban or make it temp, but that's just me

He wasn't being direct about his criticisms, some people may refer to it as a "Sneak Diss," and he's been doing it across multiple threads

I have to respectfully disagree with anything you mention about the change in moderation having to do anything in particular about partisan issues, or that it's targeting users of any specific political spectrum

He's sitting in Subway saying they don't have real tuna; people don't care about your party lines when you're stirring shit (Especially when you've been doing it over a month)

EDIT: I want to say I've even challenged him directly to clarify and he scurried off, but my memory is shit and I really really don't care to go through the meta thread to find it, so could have been someone else, who knows
 
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ManofOne

Plus Member
He's been at this the entire time since the announcement, ManofOne ManofOne . After a point it's obviously less of a genuine line of questioning for clarification and more of a way to undermine and antagonize passive-aggressively at every turn. I'm not going to entertain a purely antagonistic relationship with a user indefinitely, and the new guidelines are not going to be repealed. People need to make their choices.

Fair enough. I would agree to banning any member that is purposely being antagonistic or attacking.

That generally goes against the rules.
 

ManofOne

Plus Member
I'd agree with a temp and a full ban from politics Personally I would also give him a 6 month tag and have a conversation via email before I'd release the ban or make it temp, but that's just me

He wasn't being direct about his criticisms, some people may refer to it as a "Sneak Diss," and he's been doing it across multiple threads

I have to respectfully disagree with anything you mention about the change in moderation having to do anything in particular about partisan issues, or that it's targeting users of any specific political spectrum

He's sitting in Subway saying they don't have real tuna; people don't care about your party lines when you're stirring shit (Especially when you've been doing it over a month)

EDIT: I want to say I've even challenged him directly to clarify and he scurried off, but my memory is shit and I really really don't care to go through the meta thread to find it, so could have been someone else, who knows

If you’re seeing a wave of conservatives or moderates leaving Bc of a change in policy it doesn’t necessarily mean that they’re only leaving or speaking out because of the policy.

They could interpret it as a direct attack on their belief structure, for example Freedom of Speech.

I’m just saying that for future policy changes we should keep this in mind especially if you want an inclusive community.

Balancing personas and opinions is very hard to do so I don’t expect an immediate response or policy to fix that.
 

ThatGamingDude

I am a virgin
They could interpret it as a direct attack on their belief structure, for example Freedom of Speech.
If they think a video game forum owned by a private entity is any "Battle ground," for attacks on their political belief structures, in my disgustingly arrogant humble opinion, I would say that's the problem and not the moderation of the forum

Some people need to tone down the theatrics
 

Barsinister

Banned
If they think a video game forum owned by a private entity is any "Battle ground," for attacks on their political belief structures, in my disgustingly arrogant humble opinion, I would say that's the problem and not the moderation of the forum

Some people need to tone down the theatrics
What if they don't think that? What then?
 

Nobody_Important

“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
EviLore EviLore

Why did I get thread banned from my own thread about the police abusing a 9yr old girl in politics?


I know I got heated about people trying to excuse the abuse, but its not anything different than I have seen in threads in the past. The worst I said was somebody was being intentionally stupid. That's it. Meanwhile I have been called a retard and a cunt before in other threads with no moderator intervention whatsoever.


I understand the politics section has new rules, but if the line is drawn at calling people stupid for trying to defend child abuse I need to know.
 
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Nobody_Important

“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Nobody_Important Nobody_Important Several people were reply banned from that thread by one of our mods in order to deescalate.
That's fair enough I guess. It's a hot topic I get. I'm just not used to the new rules regarding insults yet I guess. I'm still used to the wild west of the old section.


Cunt, retard, and bitch were mainstays in recent years. I didn't realize "intentionally stupid" crossed the line now. I will adjust my posting. Sorry for the trouble.
 
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ThatGamingDude

I am a virgin
Do you eat out if both sides of your mouth also? Or is one exclusively for diarrhea?
Thanks for taking a sec to check in with my medical condition!

It depends on the day and how my medication interacts with me

Sometimes I do have a tougher time controlling my left side than my right side, so I'll prefer to chew on the right side of my mouth
Though, I just got a recent crown on the right side because of that, so I'm being a bit more careful, and even if it hurts I'll chew on the left side for a little bit

As far as diarrhea coming out of my mouth, that doesn't really happen, though it would probably cause me to go to my gastroenterologist again if that did end up occurring. I'm not sure if crohns can cause that, and I'm pretty sure my flop meds don't
 
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Barsinister

Banned
Thanks for taking a sec to check in with my medical condition!

It depends on the day and how my medication interacts with me

Sometimes I do have a tougher time controlling my left side than my right side, so I'll prefer to chew on the right side of my mouth
Though, I just got a recent crown on the right side because of that, so I'm being a bit more careful, and even if it hurts I'll chew on the left side for a little bit

As far as diarrhea coming out of my mouth, that doesn't really happen, though it would probably cause me to go to my gastroenterologist again if that did end up occurring. I'm not sure if crohns can cause that, and I'm pretty sure my flop meds don't
Not even worth a cartoon. Have fun with your condition.
 

Kev Kev

Member
I have a complaint. I am at work, minding my own beeees wax when I saw some one getting banned for posting nudie pics.

So when I click on the post in question on the ban list, I ain't see no nudie pics.

Why ya'll gotta test a brother like this.
listen, when you have your own forum, you can post and view all the chicks with dicks nudies you like. but not up in here!
 
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SLoWMoTIoN

Unconfirmed Member
Im sure we’ll see them again. Internet message board members are actually just 64 guys/gals in a perpetual dance of banishment and rebranding.
41!

I have a complaint. I am at work, minding my own beeees wax when I saw some one getting banned for posting nudie pics.

So when I click on the post in question on the ban list, I ain't see no nudie pics.

Why ya'll gotta test a brother like this.
It was a pic of a fat guy, a old picture used to troll. Drink some water, you seem thirsty.
 
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