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[Africa's Toto]

Hypothetically, if you wanted to introduce games to someone who's never played them before, you would naturally start with personal favourites.

I started thinking: are there any games that, no matter who you ask in the gaming community, would be considered the very best in their genre?
And that led to "what gaming statements are universally accepted as true?"

Statements like "Doom, Super Mario 64 and GTA were all influential in their respective genres" "Call of duty usually has good fps gunplay" "There is more creativity in the indie space" and so on.

 

[junguler]

fuck epic

 

[Noncanon Ship]

Those people who rate a game 3+ points higher/lower than you are idiots.

 

[carlosrox]

These two tracks are fucking perfection.







If you disagree, you're not a gamer! If you agree, you're a gamer!

Simple!

/thread

 

[Camreezie]

There are too many zombie games, wheres the love for good werewolf or vampire games ( notice I said good)

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

fuck epic

 

[showernota]

Horse armor wasn't worth the price.

 

[Putonahappyface]

EA executives are malignant towards gaming franchises.

 

[Schmick]

Water levels are a pain.

Fanboys are not gamers and cannot be trusted.

 

[Africa's Toto]

There are too many zombie games, wheres the love for good werewolf or vampire games ( notice I said good)

Zombies are just easy to design around really. Simple behaviour - generic models/animation - straightforward gameplay loop.

Counter: There are very few good zombie games

Hm... yup, this deserves its own thread

 

[MrS]

Game journalists are no longer required in 2021

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Good games are all what matters.

 

[GHG]

Horse armor wasn't worth the price.

Oh man you should have been there at the time. This is how I felt:

In retrospect, with everything that's come since this is now easy for everyone to agree upon but as with everything at the time it had its fair share of defenders.

Games are all what matters.

Bo we all know not everyone agrees on that anymore unfortunately.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Bo we all know not everyone agrees on that anymore unfortunately.

 

[Vick]

Apparently, a great game to be recognized as such needs to be multiplatform.

 

[Mokus]

After 20 years, an average and outdated game is considered hidden gem.

 

[junguler]

 

[fart town usa]

Everyone will agree with the following;

"The Wii U is underrated"
"BOTW is a Wii U game"
"Resident Evil 4 is a bad Resident Evil game"
"Sony always wins"
"If the Devil gon' be cryin' all the time, let his bitch ass go to the xbox 360" (see the aforementioned statement of truth)

last but not least.....

Spoiler: the truest words ever spoke

 

[mansoor1980]

 

[carlosrox]

Doom 3 has the best soundscape in gaming history.

Dead Space second best.

 

[Corgi1985]

glover needs a remake

 

[kyliethicc]

Knack 2 is a mastapeece

 

[Captain Toad]

PlayStation, Xbox and Nintendo all exist.

 

[chris121580]

All multiplayer games should have both cross play and cross progression across consoles and PC especially when they include purchases

 

[Sander Cohen]

Rockstar needs to f***ing announce and release GTA VI already! It’s been almost 8 years now, come the f*** on.

Sony will sell more PS5s this gen than Microsoft its Series Xs.

Nintendo games are primarily aimed at younger audiences and women.

Capcom is best it has ever been right now.

Gran Turismo 7 won’t release this year

Don’t ever do what CDPR did with Cyberpunk.

Some parts of the industry are creatively bankrupt.

 

[Video Game Historian]

There are too many zombie games, wheres the love for good werewolf or vampire games ( notice I said good)

check out Gabriel Knight The Beast Within

 

[CitizenZ]

A copy/paste/remaster/remake/mod sequel #5 or > is better than anything new and fresh.

 

[mansoor1980]

Rockstar needs to f***ing announce and release GTA VI already! It’s been almost 8 years now, come the f*** on.

Sony will sell more PS5s this gen than Microsoft its Series Xs.

Nintendo games are primarily aimed at younger audiences and women.

Capcom is best it has ever been right now.

Gran Turismo 7 won’t release this year

Don’t ever do what CDPR did with Cyberpunk.

Some parts of the industry are creatively bankrupt.

 

[bender]

Viva Pinata is Rare's best game.

 

[Amiga]

Free to play games are not free.

 

[jonnyXx]

This can't be real???

 

[mansoor1980]

This can't be real???

 

[VAVA Mk2]

I got one: Michael Pachter is always wrong (why does he still have a job as an analyst?)

 

[beatdowniidx]

sega does what nintendon't

 

[mansoor1980]

sega was responsible for its own demise in the console market

 

[Chiggs]

That 343i sucks donkey balls and ruined Halo forever.

 

[Bonfires Down]

PlayStation, Xbox and Nintendo all exist.

No

 

[zcaa0g]

Rubber band AI in racing games suck.

 

[TheGrat1]

Actually, if I was introducing someone to gaming, particularly if they are older (20+), I would have them play Pong then move up through the generations. Seriously. Something like Grand Theft Auto or God of War would utterly intimidate them if they played it right off of the bat. Watch this for reference:

This can't be real???

Oh, you sweet summer child.

 

[jigglet]

fuck epic

I love you

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

I got one: Michael Pachter is always wrong (why does he still have a job as an analyst?)

Thread over?

 

[daTRUballin]

Rare under Nintendo = Good

Rare under Microsoft = Bad

This line has been drawn in the sand so firmly that there is no hope for a middle ground. And even those that enjoy their Xbox output tend to trash their Nintendo games as "overrated" or "outdated".

 

[NikuNashi]

Consoles without new games are just expensive paper weights.

 

[Kumomeme]

EA suck

 

[Africa's Toto]

I would have them play Pong then move up through the generations

Counter: Much better to start from the 90s. Or focus on the 90s anyway.

While I agree that we sometimes underestimate just how difficult modern controls are for the uninitiated, I don't think you have to go that far back. If you went Pong - Spacewar - Tetris- Mario Bros - Contra - Metal Gear - Street Fighter, sure they would be introduced to contemporary gaming, but you don't have to go that way.

Why not? Because I believe we all sucked at games(regardless of the difficulty) when we were younger, and we got better through brute force. The complexity of games didn't really matter, we were bad at them(If you say you weren't, you're lying and I'll fight you).

Might take longer for people who are older, but going through a tour of gaming generations with someone (while bloody cool) isn't really necessary.
Modern controls were decided in the 90s/00s for most things. And interface/mechanics knowledge we already have will be acquired once you play enough of anything.

In the vid, Raz's girlfriend has the same major issue almost everyone who tries modern games does. Camera maneuvering + movement is weird (on controllers a little more than on m+k) for beginners.
All the gaming shorthand we've already imbibed (intractables vs props, knowing whether we're following objectives vs heading in the wrong direction) has to be acquired by playing several games, I don't think there's any other way.

 

[hyperbertha]

Xbox suxx and PS rulez

 

[Inviusx]

In terms of gameplay, 60fps is superior to 30fps.

 

[Bartski]

agreement is boring, we're here to argue.

 

[hemo memo]

Game journalists are no longer required in 2021

What is gaming journalism really other than getting invited to publishers parties or getting games early.

 

[Danjin44]

agreement is boring, we're here to war.