Support NeoGAF

[Saber]

Man I desperately need more team slots. The 4 just aren't enough. Why even cap it out at such a small number if they're making us pause the game and go into a menu to switch them around to begin with. Just make like 16 slots or something.

Only now you guys are feeling the lack of team slots?
I was like that pretty much at start of the game lol.
And let me tell you, my feedback didn't work. Just like the Xynian ones.

 

[YukiOnna]

Didn't we have more team slots in the beta of the game, too?

 

[Saber]

Didn't we have more team slots in the beta of the game, too?

Not that I remember. Maybe it was in the alpha?

 

[YukiOnna]

Not that I remember. Maybe it was in the alpha?

Might be mixing up slots with party members.

 

[InterMusketeer]

Man I desperately need more team slots. The 4 just aren't enough.

500 extra artifacts slots is the best I can do. MHY's got their priorities straight.

 

[michaelius]

Considering mobile version of Genshin exists I don't see how Switch couldn't get one. It's not locked to highest ends smartphones anyway. Would look rather bad but still I'd love to have option of taking it for travel than using phone there. I was away for few days and did my dailies with phone and that was absolutly tragic controls wise.

 

[Fuz]

By the way, this is probably common knowledge but this is Itto Ogami:

Spoiler

 

[BlackM1st]

Considering mobile version of Genshin exists I don't see how Switch couldn't get one. It's not locked to highest ends smartphones anyway. Would look rather bad but still I'd love to have option of taking it for travel than using phone there. I was away for few days and did my dailies with phone and that was absolutly tragic controls wise.

Feel ya.

But I'd rather see them to add BT controller support for the Android smartphones.

 

[YukiOnna]

Random but had a fun time reading about the fall of the Iwakura Clan. I didn't know the named Kairagi you kill across the islands were the last members of the Iwakura Art. Nor that Iwakura Doukei only got the name from Teruyo the Tengu after Chiyo's corruption and betrayal against the Shogun and the Maguu Kenki on Yashiori Island was developed to imitate his sword arts so is basically the last remaining "practitioner." Cool.

 

[Fake]

Considering mobile version of Genshin exists I don't see how Switch couldn't get one. It's not locked to highest ends smartphones anyway. Would look rather bad but still I'd love to have option of taking it for travel than using phone there. I was away for few days and did my dailies with phone and that was absolutly tragic controls wise.

Mobile is like PC in the sense of you change graphic settings, in the Switch case IDK if Nintendo would allow such a thing, keep in mind that Genshin Impact runs using the 'amazing' Unity Engine and there is no DRS or dynamic setting, everything is static, Nintendo Switch hates that.

 

[Fuz]

 

[Saber]

Nothing happens in the land of Genshin potatoes. Fans are just happy and dandy lmao

 

[BlackM1st]

Nothing happens in the land of Genshin potatoes. Fans are just happy and dandy lmao

I mean... MiHo gave you 1600 extra primos, wings and a harp for your teapot. Some cuts were to bound to happen xD It happened faster and more in you face than I expected tho lmao

 

[InterMusketeer]

Can't wait for the next survey! I should probably start taking notes.

 

[Fake]

They will probably gonna reduce the quantity of survey after this birthday fiasco.

 

[Pejo]

I really enjoyed 2/3 of the current event. The treasures and jade thing collecting is obvious, but it was also nice to go back to some of these areas that I never spend time in anymore. I actually found 4-5 regular chests I missed in Dragonspine by searching for the new ones. This should be an every patch feature. The camp extermination part was fun too, especially the dragonspine one since it had a boss at the end. It was nice that it wasn't timed too, just something you can complete and have fun with. I'm sure the guy that adds timers to events at MHY was sweating with his eyes bugging out by not being able to add a timer to it, since they had the mini air obstacle course sections between the camps.

The adeptal stove thing I could have lived without. I didn't realize until the Dragonspine one that you could shoot ice/fire arrows at the pots themselves to affect the temperature, without depending on the stupid flame DDR crap, or to make fine adjustments to the temp. If it had a bit more control and was more fleshed out, it could have been fun though. Like a team activity where you're under constant onslaught so everyone has to defend and keep an eye on the pots while you do the cooking. They didn't use the enemies enough, I feel.

Overall, not a bad event. All 3 parts were good, not great, and we got background Gooba, which was my personal highlight. Got Kokomi to 81 so I've been using her a bit for dailies. She's a mix of Mona and Barbara regarding her kit, kinda. Her biggest weakness as a Hydro applicator is that you can't move her jellyfish. They should have made it like Fischl where you can tap R2 to move it during its duration. The really frustrating part is that when you use your Burst, it refreshes the duration, but it leaves it in the original spot where you dropped it. By then, the fight could be miles away, making it useless.

*edit*

New leaks/rumors of a brand new banner type after the Childe rerun:

The leaker is saying that after Childe's 2.2 rerun there's going to be a new banner type after 2.3 containing both characters and weapons?

The banner will contain characters that have already gone through 2 reruns (e.g. Childe) and it will have a similar mechanic to the Epitomised Path for the weapon banner currently. So these characters will no longer appear in the regular limited banner.

Not sure if anyone has uploaded this so I'm gonna put this here first.

Edit: if this is proven to be untrue please do comment here! thank you

Edit edit: here are some of the comments, screengrab is obtained from the NGA post I saw:

important points: the banner might only be put in place when there's at least 2 characters who've had 2 reruns. Possibly new currency but unconfirmed as of posting.

Once again please take this with a HUGE BAG of salt !! that is what I'm doing too

Edit edit edit:I finally found the original Tieba thread here https://tieba.baidu.com/p/7566559050

 

[Fuz]

New leaks/rumors of a brand new banner type after the Childe rerun:

I've read about this on the leak subreddit, but my problem with this leak is... there's only Childe that had 2 reruns. We'll have only 1 character in that banner at the beginning and for who knows how long?

 

[Fake]

Next banner will be either Childe rererun or Xingqiu.

 

[Pejo]

I've read about this on the leak subreddit, but my problem with this leak is... there's only Childe that had 2 reruns. We'll have only 1 character in that banner at the beginning and for who knows how long?

That just means that we're due for more 2+ rerunners like maybe Klee, Zhongli, Venti, etc maybe? I can't see them putting the archons on a perma-banner, but it might be a rotating type.

 

[michaelius]

Maybe it's translation issue and characters that would be getting their second rerun banner like Childe is now would be added there. That would be somewhat sensible
initial run - half a year or so - rerun - another half year - add to this perma banner.

 

[Fake]

Seeing the quality of Yoimiya, I can see her add to permanent banner.

 

[Pejo]

Seeing the quality of Yoimiya, I can see her add to permanent banner.

She's a really strong character, it's just bow sucking as an auto-attack weapon and a few other issues with her kit that's the problem. She destroys single targets really fast as long as there's only one and they don't move much. It's comical how fast she can beat the weekly bosses up until Signora due to the Pyro half of the fight.

 

[Fake]

She's a really strong character, it's just bow sucking as an auto-attack weapon and a few other issues with her kit that's the problem. She destroys single targets really fast as long as there's only one and they don't move much. It's comical how fast she can beat the weekly bosses up until Signora due to the Pyro half of the fight.

IMO she face the same problem as Keqing. They're both strong chars, imprisioned by game problems and totally ignored by balance team.

 

[BlackM1st]

Mixed banners are terrible idea , standard banner proved it to me again and again. Plus, new additional currency? I'd rather not... To me it sounds as another Whale focused system.

 

[Pejo]

Mixed banners are terrible idea , standard banner proved it to me again and again. Plus, new additional currency? I'd rather not... To me it sounds as another Whale focused system.

Yea. The only real summoning changes I'd like to see is the 3* weapons replaced with ore/xp writs/Mora and 1-2 times a year a guaranteed 5* banner with Genesis Crystals, similar to how Fate GO does it.

 

[YukiOnna]

I really enjoyed 2/3 of the current event. The treasures and jade thing collecting is obvious, but it was also nice to go back to some of these areas that I never spend time in anymore. I actually found 4-5 regular chests I missed in Dragonspine by searching for the new ones. This should be an every patch feature. The camp extermination part was fun too, especially the dragonspine one since it had a boss at the end. It was nice that it wasn't timed too, just something you can complete and have fun with. I'm sure the guy that adds timers to events at MHY was sweating with his eyes bugging out by not being able to add a timer to it, since they had the mini air obstacle course sections between the camps.

The worst part about this was that I'm so used to a time challenge that I kept trying to rush it and realized there is none. More or less agree with you though, I think this is the best event they've done yet that wasn't intrusive or felt low effort.

Mixed banners are terrible idea , standard banner proved it to me again and again. Plus, new additional currency? I'd rather not... To me it sounds as another Whale focused system.

They should really just move them to the shop or standard banner rather than create an entirely new one.

 

[Fuz]

Leaks subreddit sent me here and now you gotta got there too.

 

[Pejo]

I'm torn. I have that Billet selector from the (I think) Windblume event or summer event, can't remember. Part of me wants to use it for a claymore refine for the Inazuma katana 2hander, but part of me wants to save it for a later added weapon so that I can make it immediately. Choices....

Also having a tough time figuring out what the hell to do with Qiqi. She has the Sacrificial Sword currently for more uptime of her elemental skill, but I dunno what to do with the rest of her stats. ATK and ER I guess?

 

[deanote666]

I'm confused.

I have a party of Kazuha, Zhongli, Fischl, and Kokomi.

When I swap Kazuha for Baal in my party, her attack stat goes up. I can't find out why. I changed her weapon and it still went up. Don't see any artifact set bonus that affects other character's attack. It also only seems to affect her.

Got Baal at 2272 attack when she's in my party with 53.6% CR, 91.2% CD, 266.1% ER with a 4 piece Emblem of severed fate artifact set.

 

[Pejo]

I'm confused.

I have a party of Kazuha, Zhongli, Fischl, and Kokomi.

When I swap Kazuha for Baal in my party, her attack stat goes up. I can't find out why. I changed her weapon and it still went up. Don't see any artifact set bonus that affects other character's attack. It also only seems to affect her.

Got Baal at 2272 attack when she's in my party with 53.6% CR, 91.2% CD, 266.1% ER with a 4 piece Emblem of severed fate artifact set.

That is weird, maybe some hidden thing with Electro Resonance?

Leaks subreddit sent me here and now you gotta got there too.

Hovers over link

/r/GenshinGays

 

[InterMusketeer]

That just means that we're due for more 2+ rerunners like maybe Klee, Zhongli, Venti, etc maybe?

We have at least 4 characters (Albedo, Ganyu, Xiao, Eula) due for a re-run relatively soon. That's without the Inazuman characters. If we're getting even more re-re-runs, the next 4 patches all the way 'till Sumeru would be filled with recycled banners. Either that or they would have to skip certain re-runs and risk angering their players.

Older characters should just be put on the standard banner on rotation. That way they're not shitting up the limited banner. Too bad such a change would come too late for this unnecessary Childe re-run. But it does sound like something MHY would do: Piss everyone off first and offer a half baked solution later.

 

[deanote666]

I'm torn. I have that Billet selector from the (I think) Windblume event or summer event, can't remember. Part of me wants to use it for a claymore refine for the Inazuma katana 2hander, but part of me wants to save it for a later added weapon so that I can make it immediately. Choices....

Also having a tough time figuring out what the hell to do with Qiqi. She has the Sacrificial Sword currently for more uptime of her elemental skill, but I dunno what to do with the rest of her stats. ATK and ER I guess?

I'm still hanging onto my billet selector. I only craft weapons when I have a specific need to when building a character in case something better comes along.

I haven't built my Qiqi so no idea.

I switched out Fischl and it didn't affect Baal so it isn't having 2 electro in the party.

 

[michaelius]

If they are like weapon banners you would be guaranted desired unit/weapon on 3rd one as i understand. That's much better if you want something specfic from old units - at the cost of 0 chances to pull them after losing 50/50 on normal banners.

I understand third currency as third type of wish just so we cannot pull them with perm banner wishes gotten from game for free.

 

[Pejo]

If they are like weapon banners you would be guaranted desired unit/weapon on 3rd one as i understand. That's much better if you want something specfic from old units - at the cost of 0 chances to pull them after losing 50/50 on normal banners.

I understand third currency as third type of wish just so we cannot pull them with perm banner wishes gotten from game for free.

Kinda weird that they're doing it this way if true. In Honkai the characters just get dumped to the standard banner after a while. Then again, this game has no way to farm shards to unlock characters like that game does, so it's hard to compare.

We have at least 4 characters (Albedo, Ganyu, Xiao, Eula) due for a re-run relatively soon. That's without the Inazuman characters. If we're getting even more re-re-runs, the next 4 patches all the way 'till Sumeru would be filled with recycled banners. Either that or they would have to skip certain re-runs and risk angering their players.

Older characters should just be put on the standard banner on rotation. That way they're not shitting up the limited banner. Too bad such a change would come too late for this unnecessary Childe re-run. But it does sound like something MHY would do: Piss everyone off first and offer a half baked solution later.

Agree, but I do like the idea of using that "Path" option to select which 5* to aim for. That way if you want your Jean or Diluc, you can eventually guarantee it unlike now. They should just modify the standard banner to use that feature and add the old 5*s to it, though, instead of making a new banner using new resources. It's not like they're hella generous with those blue fates or anything.

I'm still hanging onto my billet selector. I only craft weapons when I have a specific need to when building a character in case something better comes along.

I haven't built my Qiqi so no idea.

I switched out Fischl and it didn't affect Baal so it isn't having 2 electro in the party.

Yea I'll probably just hold on to mine for now too. I'm a hoarder for resources like that.

How much attack extra are you seeing? And is it only Baal that gets the boost?

 

[InterMusketeer]

Agree, but I do like the idea of using that "Path" option to select which 5* to aim for. That way if you want your Jean or Diluc, you can eventually guarantee it unlike now. They should just modify the standard banner to use that feature and add the old 5*s to it, though, instead of making a new banner using new resources. It's not like they're hella generous with those blue fates or anything.

That path would have to carry over to the next rotation though, because otherwise it's pointless for most people.

 

[Pejo]

That path would have to carry over to the next rotation though, because otherwise it's pointless for most people.

Well my point is to just leave it on the perma banner, so essentially just add Childe/Klee/etc to the perma banner, then add the 'path' mechanic to it. That guarantees that after 3 pities you get the character you want.

 

[BlackM1st]

BrtrayLeaks subreddit sent me here and now you gotta got there too.

Whyyyyyyy

That path would have to carry over to the next rotation though, because otherwise it's pointless for most people.

Yep, another harpoon aimed at Whales

I have a party of Kazuha, Zhongli, Fischl, and Kokomi.

Why you need Kokomi if you have Geo Lord? Abyss?

Yea I'll probably just hold on to mine for now too. I'm a hoarder for resources like that.

I have full set of materials to R5 all types of craftable weapons. Feels good.

 

[InterMusketeer]

Well my point is to just leave it on the perma banner, so essentially just add Childe/Klee/etc to the perma banner, then add the 'path' mechanic to it. That guarantees that after 3 pities you get the character you want.

Ah, I see. Yeah, that'd be good. Probably too good for MHY to consider, but one can hope.

 

[Fake]

Leaks subreddit sent me here and now you gotta got there too.

 

[YukiOnna]

New Survey is up.

 

[Pejo]

New Survey is up.

Me:

MHY:

 

[YukiOnna]

Me:

MHY:

One of the questions I got was: What is your overall impression of MHY as a company?

 

[LOLCats]

lol.. i didnt log in today for the first time since starting playing over a year ago.

well done mihyoyo

 

[Pejo]

One of the questions I got was: What is your overall impression of MHY as a company?

Interesting that we got different questions. I never got that one. It was the bog standard questions about the events, the patch, the characters. I let them have it about Sara's kit. I figure enough people will complain about Kokomi (and probably Shogun), so I might as well try to get birdwife a little representation. She doesn't even need THAT much, I would say extending her buff to 10 seconds, making her AoE explosion (that gives the buff) take longer than it currently does to explode so you have a chance to change characters and actually get in it, and making her Crit Dmg Buff on her C6 good for any element instead of just Electro. Then she'd be a perfectly viable buff bot at least. Anyways, it doesn't matter, it will get word clouded into "anniversary sucked" anyways.

 

[YukiOnna]

Interesting that we got different questions. I never got that one. It was the bog standard questions about the events, the patch, the characters. I let them have it about Sara's kit. I figure enough people will complain about Kokomi (and probably Shogun), so I might as well try to get birdwife a little representation. She doesn't even need THAT much, I would say extending her buff to 10 seconds, making her AoE explosion (that gives the buff) take longer than it currently does to explode so you have a chance to change characters and actually get in it, and making her Crit Dmg Buff on her C6 good for any element instead of just Electro. Then she'd be a perfectly viable buff bot at least. Anyways, it doesn't matter, it will get word clouded into "anniversary sucked" anyways.

Yeah I notice they do this a lot with different questions for different players, it's probably random. Likewise, had to voice issues about Sara since Anniversary and Kokomi will probably be the big talking point. It is crazy you need her C6 to be remotely workable as a character. Had to let them know that outside of Shogun the characters have been kinda disappointing from a kit standpoint, expected more when launch regions have had a better treatment. I know Tohma is supposed to be decent, but the next 5 stars have to not be like Kokomi (still going to make her work though).

 

[deanote666]

Kinda weird that they're doing it this way if true. In Honkai the characters just get dumped to the standard banner after a while. Then again, this game has no way to farm shards to unlock characters like that game does, so it's hard to compare.

Agree, but I do like the idea of using that "Path" option to select which 5* to aim for. That way if you want your Jean or Diluc, you can eventually guarantee it unlike now. They should just modify the standard banner to use that feature and add the old 5*s to it, though, instead of making a new banner using new resources. It's not like they're hella generous with those blue fates or anything.

Yea I'll probably just hold on to mine for now too. I'm a hoarder for resources like that.

How much attack extra are you seeing? And is it only Baal that gets the boost?

Without changing her current equipment, strenght goes from about 1800 to 2200 between moving her out/in the party. Not really seeing much difference damage boost wise from a 2 pc Nobless/2 piece thundering fury set and the 4 piece emblem of severed fate even though the emblem of severed fate has a higher ER/strenght when she's in the party (I didn't check if this was going on with the nobless/thundering fury so there's a chance she had 2300 attack while in party at the time).

I don't always raise Zhongli's shield or sometimes it runs out and I don't raise it again so I keep a healer in the party.

 

[Pejo]

Yeah I notice they do this a lot with different questions for different players, it's probably random. Likewise, had to voice issues about Sara since Anniversary and Kokomi will probably be the big talking point. It is crazy you need her C6 to be remotely workable as a character. Had to let them know that outside of Shogun the characters have been kinda disappointing from a kit standpoint, expected more when launch regions have had a better treatment. I know Tohma is supposed to be decent, but the next 5 stars have to not be like Kokomi (still going to make her work though).

Thoma is like a spit directly in the eyes of Xinyan fans. They pretty much gave her niche (shielder that applies Pyro) to him without the self-conflicting kit and made him work like a Pyro Xingqui which will make him a staple in Vape and reverse melt comps likely for a long time. Instead of just changing her stupid def scaling and making her a Pyro support that has a physical shred (still confuses me), they just said "screw it, let's do it right with Thoma".

They actually did the opposite with Kokomi and made her a worse Barbara somehow. Like you, I'll make her fit in a team somehow, but boy what a shitter for a limited 5*. Not being able to move her Jellyfish is the big head scratcher, especially since Fischl can already do it with Oz.

Regardless of those two though, Sara just doesn't make sense to have her be so badly designed. She's completely unusable as a DPS character with the bad multipliers, her backdash is still broken, and her penultimate constellation is a buff that really only Shogun can use since she's the only one with a big multiplier Electro hit that is frontloaded to fit within her stupid 6 second buff. 1/40th of the characters in the game. You're actively making any team with her worse just by including her. Electro traveler is a better Electro character for fucks sake.

Without changing her current equipment, strenght goes from about 1800 to 2200 between moving her out/in the party. Not really seeing much difference damage boost wise from a 2 pc Nobless/2 piece thundering fury set and the 4 piece emblem of severed fate even though the emblem of severed fate has a higher ER/strenght when she's in the party (I didn't check if this was going on with the nobless/thundering fury so there's a chance she had 2300 attack while in party at the time).

I don't always raise Zhongli's shield or sometimes it runs out and I don't raise it again so I keep a healer in the party.

That's not exactly a 25% buff, but its around there. The only thing I could think of is if the team you're moving her into has 2 Pyro characters for the 25% resonance atk buff, or if you're using food or something since it applies to the whole party.

*edit*

Here's MHY's new project, a turn-based RPG spinoff of the Honkai universe. This one actually has characters from Honkai instead of just lookalikes like Genshin does. I am probably done with getting in to new MHY games, and they're probably going to kill off Himeko, the redhead again, like they've done in 2 games prior, so I'm pre-emptively out.

 

[YukiOnna]

Thoma is like a spit directly in the eyes of Xinyan fans. They pretty much gave her niche (shielder that applies Pyro) to him without the self-conflicting kit and made him work like a Pyro Xingqui which will make him a staple in Vape and reverse melt comps likely for a long time. Instead of just changing her stupid def scaling and making her a Pyro support that has a physical shred (still confuses me), they just said "screw it, let's do it right with Thoma".

They actually did the opposite with Kokomi and made her a worse Barbara somehow. Like you, I'll make her fit in a team somehow, but boy what a shitter for a limited 5*. Not being able to move her Jellyfish is the big head scratcher, especially since Fischl can already do it with Oz.

Regardless of those two though, Sara just doesn't make sense to have her be so badly designed. She's completely unusable as a DPS character with the bad multipliers, her backdash is still broken, and her penultimate constellation is a buff that really only Shogun can use since she's the only one with a big multiplier Electro hit that is frontloaded to fit within her stupid 6 second buff. 1/40th of the characters in the game. You're actively making any team with her worse just by including her. Electro traveler is a better Electro character for fucks sake.

*edit*

Here's MHY's new project, a turn-based RPG spinoff of the Honkai universe. This one actually has characters from Honkai instead of just lookalikes like Genshin does. I am probably done with getting in to new MHY games, and they're probably going to kill off Himeko, the redhead again, like they've done in 2 games prior, so I'm pre-emptively out.

It's perplexing that they won't do balance changes, but I don't know if they ever did with Honkai. Although, different development teams so different philosophies I guess. It is inexcusable though that a Limited 5 star could be that and arguably worse than what's basically a welfare with Barbara.

Thanks for the info on the new Honkai game. I'm going to sign up for the beta since turn-based interests me and the aesthetic is cool.

 

[Fuz]

I'm going to sign up for the beta

 

[michaelius]

One of the questions I got was: What is your overall impression of MHY as a company?

Did you just write greedy or went more poetic in description?