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Grand Theft Auto The Trilogy: The Definitive Edition announced, all consoles and PC in 2021 and mobile in 2022
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CamHostage
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Still not 'definitive' enough for me until they bring the GTA Stories games over. Those PSP campaigns happen to stick most in my memory.
It would have been nice too if Rockstar could have found a team to fully bring back the whole GTA catalog: 1,2,London, maybe Advance, 3 Trilogy, Stories, 4 (how the heck is 4 and the two Episodes get forgotten so completely BTW?,) and Chinatown Wars. Let them take their time (starting with Trilogy makes clear sense,) but there are fans of the different variants that weren't the PS2 megablockbusters, it'd be nice to have the full franchise in a nice shape on various platforms.
It would have been nice too if Rockstar could have found a team to fully bring back the whole GTA catalog: 1,2,London, maybe Advance, 3 Trilogy, Stories, 4 (how the heck is 4 and the two Episodes get forgotten so completely BTW?,) and Chinatown Wars. Let them take their time (starting with Trilogy makes clear sense,) but there are fans of the different variants that weren't the PS2 megablockbusters, it'd be nice to have the full franchise in a nice shape on various platforms.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Synless
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Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy
Grand Theft Auto The Trilogy. All three games in the epic saga are here together GTA III, GTA Vice City and GTA San Andreas.
store.playstation.com
8BiTw0LF
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Because that's the old trilogy.
I thought it did better on psp?
ethomaz
Banned
This item doesn’t exists… opened in the page.
Anyway these games doesn’t exists for PS5 or Series S/X.
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Feel Like I'm On 42
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My faith in Rockstar is nil after the way they have been handling the GTA V Remaster and the fact that they havn't patched RDR2 for ps5/SX.
I like how they didn't even acknowledge the lengthy delay of GtaV remastered. No apology no nothing. Of course there's the thing about not putting any effort into it despite charging (presumably $60). They set a precedent with GtaV for ps4 (thr first time lol), which was a great remaster at the time. How are you then going to have the audacity to not offer any upgrade path AND barely improve the visuals? Seriously, they're charging for what should've been a FREE patch years ago for the Ps4 pro/Xb1x!
Rdr2- I think its really shitty that they won't patch in 60 fps now that the ps5/series are capable of it. When you have a game with that much inherent lagginess combined with 30 fps, how are you going to not give your customers on ps5/x something that will play decently, like people on PC have (not to mention it would create good will and boost rdr2 online sales)?
Of course we all know the answer. It's pure greed in knowing they can sell it to us years later in the form of a remaster.
I like how they didn't even acknowledge the lengthy delay of GtaV remastered. No apology no nothing. Of course there's the thing about not putting any effort into it despite charging (presumably $60). They set a precedent with GtaV for ps4 (thr first time lol), which was a great remaster at the time. How are you then going to have the audacity to not offer any upgrade path AND barely improve the visuals? Seriously, they're charging for what should've been a FREE patch years ago for the Ps4 pro/Xb1x!
Rdr2- I think its really shitty that they won't patch in 60 fps now that the ps5/series are capable of it. When you have a game with that much inherent lagginess combined with 30 fps, how are you going to not give your customers on ps5/x something that will play decently, like people on PC have (not to mention it would create good will and boost rdr2 online sales)?
Of course we all know the answer. It's pure greed in knowing they can sell it to us years later in the form of a remaster.
Feel Like I'm On 42
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Doesn't make them any less shitty for the things they do!
Feel Like I'm On 42
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Remember when Rockstar used to put effort into their remasters? They have become the worst AAA in the industry when it comes to not patching games, making people wait years, then selling what should've been free patches as full priced remasters.
yes exactly the games are all available to play on current consoles, I highly doubt the new collection is gonna be a drastic change
8BiTw0LF
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The change from RenderWare to Unreal Engine 4 will make a drastic change. More than bumping up the original 480p to 4K (27x higher resolution) and unstable 30fps to rock solid 60fps. Lightning, shadows, weather, 3D models and overall assets are going to look so much better.
The significance in changing engine - and not just any engine - but the most used and tested scaleable engine we have today, is going to bring these games into the 20's.
This is not a remaster - it's a remake.
Wait and see when they release a trailer for the trilogy. Feel free to bookmark this comment.
Rocco Schiavone
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I did. Let's see how this turns out.
Skifi28
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I don't know about the PS5 store, but they're there on the online store from a browser and GTA3 and San Andreas at least work fine on the PS5. Unless it's a regional thing, in that case I have no idea.
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ethomaz
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It is BC… nobody wants that.
PS5 still didn’t received any of these games and that is why Rockstar will release them.
And to be fair it will be a sales success.
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Lognor
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Oh yeah china town wars was what I was thinking of. ds not gba. Duh on my part. Didn't realize it was ported to psp though. And that was a fairly successful console
So hopefully a mainline gta finds more success on a Nintendo console
JimRyanGOAT
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I expect the upgrades to be like Half-life source
Minimal updates presented as a new game for 79.99 USD or 89.99 Canada
Minimal updates presented as a new game for 79.99 USD or 89.99 Canada
CamHostage
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Well, up a bit there... this is not necessarily the remake you're imagining.
For one thing, all Rockstar so far has announced is that Definitive Edition will include "across-the-board upgrades including graphical improvements and modern gameplay enhancements for all three titles, while still maintaining the classic look and feel of the originals." That does not say total remake. (There's more that we believe we know thanks to the leaks, but for now, we don't even have it confirmed yet that it's on UE4, although that's a given from what's in the data files.)
Second, a game can be ported to a different engine and still be the same game, not necessarily inheriting all of the advanced technologies of that more modern engine. The Shin Megami Tensei III Nocturne HD Remaster, for example, was made within the Unity Engine, and the results were basically Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne in HD. When people say, "This game runs on Unreal engine", what they think that means (UE4-quality graphics) and what that actually means (a familiar and capable development suite that has the facilities to handle a wide variety of software written into it) can be wildly different.
And third, if it is a full remake, that would mean everything would be remade rather than translated over and run under the hood, because it's not the same game anymore... and not all the changes will be for the better. Besides the aforementioned questionable content concerns and the audio licensing issues, remaking the game brand new would mean physics, handling, play systems, difficulty balance, character designs, and everything else you remember about these games will be made to work in the new system rather than replicated accurately from the originals. Rockstar would try to get as close as possible to the PS2 games (and some might argue that, in a game as mechanically imprecise as the PS2 GTAs, the games could be better if it threw away all the old controls and mechanics, all it really needs is the maps and the dialog and the mission goals to be the same for it to be fun enough for a revisit,) but it would be unlikely that Rockstar could transplant everything good about the GTA 3 Trilogy and have it run perfectly but also "fix" it all with next-gen graphics and handling. If you look at things like those Unreal "ports" of Simpsons Hit and Run or Goldeneye, those are rarely ports, they're totally new games with a rip of the maps and character models but not really any of the underlying gameplay original systems.
(Could they maybe do the "two engines running at once" strap approach of the Bluepoint Engine used in SotC and Demon's Souls? I guess it's possible, but nobody else is doing it that way. and Rockstar is already promising play changes in Definitive Edition.)
...You may be right, these may be way more than expected as far as being new versions of these classics. However, the only facts we have so far about these games is "graphical improvements", "modern gameplay enhancements", and "classic look and feel".
Seconded. I'm rooting for you to be right and prove everything I just posted above moot...
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8BiTw0LF
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By default, change of engine equals it's a remake, especially when it's not just a newer version engine (e.g. UE3 to UE4).
Assets are usually "translated" for the new engine. That doesn't mean it's not a remake, cause all assets have to be translated/converted for the new engine.
I never said "total remake" - like Demon's Souls Remake - but a remake with 4K graphics, 60fps, much better lightning, shadows, weather, 3D models and overall assets.
If people truly believes R* would take the time to change engine for the trilogy, just to make it look exactly like a 20 years old game - yeah, that's only because some people are hurt from the GTA:V next-gen announcement, no GTA:VI news and no RDR2 60fps patch for new-gen - understandably, but the frustration turns to blindness.
Likewise, if people think this remake will look as good as RDR2, they're pretty naive.
mcjmetroid
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This is destined to disappoint. There are so many ways it can go wrong and very little ways it can go right
KormaChameleon
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Major Angry
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People are going to be let down, all this will be is a 4K upscale, don't expect a remaster like Mafia. Rockstar games are parasites.
Such amazing game on PS2, the voice actors they collected, really great, the music and channels, spared no expense. Vice City was fantastic, the Ice cream drug deliveries. There is so much in these games you probably would get a lot of flak for in today's day and age. They were good times. Would be nice to see the definitive be on par with Mafia 1, at least.
Don't get me wrong, if you're right I might be purchasing at some point. However, as they have stated that they'll be removing the currently available versions from the stores, I don't think these will be a significantly different product
TLZ
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Wait how do you know this?
8BiTw0LF
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I bought Vice City on PS4, thinking maybe it would run better than the PS2 version. I was in for a major disappointment. 480p/30fps and extreme motionblur, upscaled to 4K (for that extra blurryness)
They have to remove those old versions - firstly, cause they suck! secondly, so customers don't buy the wrong versions.
GTA remastered trilogy sighting on Rockstar Launcher points toward Unreal remakes
Rockstar dataminers hit pay dirt
bargeparty
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Doesn't unreal have notorious streaming problems? I'm sure that'll make for great high speed driving.
8BiTw0LF
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TLZ
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Boy if that's true....GTA remastered trilogy sighting on Rockstar Launcher points toward Unreal remakes
Rockstar dataminers hit pay dirtwww.google.com
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
Right, time to get your bets on..
Delayed till 2022?
Delayed till 2022?
Majormaxxx
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The gta ps2 games on ps4 are almost unplayable. There's a weird sound glitch that is audible every few seconds. Especially if you are on headphones. Huge rip off. Basically, even with discount, around 20 bucks down the drain. I played gta 3 on my ps3 - blurry but a much better experience.I bought Vice City on PS4, thinking maybe it would run better than the PS2 version. I was in for a major disappointment. 480p/30fps and extreme motionblur, upscaled to 4K (for that extra blurryness)
They have to remove those old versions - firstly, cause they suck! secondly, so customers don't buy the wrong versions.
GTA remastered trilogy sighting on Rockstar Launcher points toward Unreal remakes
Rockstar dataminers hit pay dirt
They never bothered to fix it. Probably because it's an issue with the ps2 emulator on ps4. But still it should never have been sold.
Edit: worst ps2 experience on ps4 for sure.
My thoughts on the remaster - it will be worse than people imagine it'll be. So they are trying to maximize pre-orders by hiding footage. Or even screens.
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Marty-McFly
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Mainline GTA games finally on a Nintendo console.
This means more than people think from the perspective of the industry.
This means more than people think from the perspective of the industry.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
How is GTAV getting "woke"? Serious question as well. Honestly have not heard anybody say this before.
Anyway, this could be a day one for me, but I need to see more. If these games aren't using the GTA 5 engine or at a minimum UE4 then I'm not interested. Fantastic games, but they've aged badly.
Also, please have all the maps unlocked from the get go. I don't want to go back to unlocking parts of the map.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
Can't wait to cruise around Vice City listening to the radiostations.
Best game soundtrack ever!
Half the soundtrack you remember wont be on there..
If memory serves they got rid of a few tracks years ago.
TLZ
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Can't wait to cruise around Vice City listening to the radiostations.
Best game soundtrack ever!
Fever 105 is so good.
Sadly I don't expect any of them to be in.
Rocco Schiavone
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Michael Jackson -"Wanna Be Startin' Somethin"Half the soundtrack you remember wont be on there..
If memory serves they got rid of a few tracks years ago.
Ozzy Osbourne -"Bark At The Moon"
· Kate Bush -"Wow"
· Herbie Hancock - "Rock It"
Afrika Bambaataa -"Looking For The Perfect Beat"
· Lionel Richie - "Running with the night"
· A couple of songs from Radio Espantoso
To be exact.
dotnotbot
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Also Billie Jean
Synless
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I posted the only example we know of on another page in this thread. There are rumors about it. They released a trailer and the pic I posted from another person on here supports said rumor.
underwater
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Rockstar can go to hell