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[bitbydeath]

So you believe that in an effort to get spider man in one of their movies, not even get the rights back, they would give away more rights for said character?

It’s not that hard to believe.
Sony pulled out of the MCU, and were set to do their own Spider-verse. Forcing Disney to come back to the table with a better offer.
That offer could have easily included Spider-Man game rights since they were doing nothing with it.

 

[Gameplaylover]

Eh cod went from trash to amazing in a couple weeks. You can't make that up.

Did i miss all the people here suddenly saying that COD is a great game? There is a difference between liking a game and knowing that it's huge to many players. Fortnite and COD are trash, but millions of casuals think different.

 

[anthony2690]

This dumb thread made me think of this

 

[ChiefDada]

So yes Microsoft will have a better line up, if previous games are being used as an indicator of quality.

This is the big question for me. How does the transition from product to service pricing affect quality and/or production time in the long-term, if at all? If it turns out that neither suffers then I'm inclined to agree based on sheer volume.

 

[MonarchJT]

It's a good thing those games are on the console then right? So can you explain to me then. If I were to say people only play COD because GTA is on the console would I be right?

Uhm yes it is until it isn't anymore *shrug* people don't buy consoles for Bloodborne .the last of us....fable or flight sim....there is nothing strange about that ...surely when you enter a ecosystem you will use it to the fullest and it is normal for a PlayStation user to try out its best games.....the same is true of the Microsoft ecosystem. Another matter is how many consoles in % have sold just because of Bloodborne, returnal, Flight Sim, Forza h5 etc. etc. .... I bet the PlayStation sales would not drop by a single unit if it was revealed tomorrow that there will be no Bloodborne 2. ..... Try to say that the console will not receive GTA 6 and and see what will happen.

 

[oldergamer]

All jokes aside I think Sony buying Netflix Games would be a bigger move with their whole movie game story telling thing they seem to have down on point.

Huh? Netflix games barely exists. What do you mean?

 

[N4WW4FV2]

THE PANIC ISRAEL!

 

[PropellerEar]

So you believe that in an effort to get spider man in one of their movies, not even get the rights back, they would give away more rights for said character?

I believe 100% that I don't have any details on IP rights for Spider-man games, just know that Sony is doing exclusive Spider-Man games for PlayStation.
I am 100% not making this up.

 

[Hypereides]

Its going to be interesting to see where Sony goes on from here. There's definitely more pressure on Sony/PlayStation now than the prior generation.

None of the big platformholders got this far by being careless.

 

[Godot25]

Jesus
These threads are like

There is nothing wrong with admitting that ActiBlizz deal strengthen Xbox's position on market and Sony realistically don't have an answer to it. And clinging to 229 million Insomniac deal while not mentioning fact that studio did not have any IP's worth paying for and that was a reason why they were so cheap is pinnacle of desperation. Spider-Man is selling 20 million because it is a Spider-Man, not because of Insomniac. Which is really a fact when you look at sales of Rift Apart.

Reality is. Sony can't afford arms race with Microsoft. They had to hope, that Microsoft will keep Call of Duty on PlayStation and I would not be surprised if Microsoft would want "something in return" from Sony.

 

[phil_t98]

Did i miss all the people here suddenly saying that COD is a great game? There is a difference between liking a game and knowing that it's huge to many players. Fortnite and COD are trash, but millions of casuals think different.

Its all subjective based on taste. Some people think those games are great, the player bas of those games is huge so there defiantly a lot that do think they are great

 

[NahaNago]

Sony now need to do more of this. They don't need IP. they need more developers. And they need to go back to taking risks again. Been on safe coasting mode for a couple of years now.

They need both IP and more developers. I agree on them on being coasting mode for the last couple of years. They thought that they was going to blow xbox out the water by releasing a ton of first party games at the start of the gen but covid and chip shortages messed them up and gave xbox some breathing room to act.

 

[SLB1904]

Did i miss all the people here suddenly saying that COD is a great game? There is a difference between liking a game and knowing that it's huge to many players. Fortnite and COD are trash, but millions of casuals think different.

Why would you care or anyone in this board care about casuals?
Cod is in decline. 40% this year. Diablo 4 and overwatch 2 creative directors have left. Crash 4 underperformed and they definitely aren't making spyro. If I was xbox fan I would be pissed. The amount of games they could make with 70b. Activision definitely isnt worth tgat money. But that just me.

 

[Elios83]

They are under pressure to secure their future in a content war.
Organic growth and growing smaller studios is a safe strategy with possibly the biggest return on investments and it's what they tried in 2021.
But their business model is focused heavily on third party sales which they complement with their own first party giving identity and prestige to the brand.

Long term they need to prepare to stand up on their own legs, if one wants to be Netflix they have to try to be Disney Plus.
Their current strength isn't enough to be that because they depend too much on third parties which are now up for grabs and imo this year we'll see them trying to grab Square or Capcom or both which are the most affordable publishers with the biggest return for them in term of IPs acquired.

Going on with the current strategy simply means that internally they don't see themselves competing on services and they are happy to do their own stuff becoming a special profitable niche long term. I don't think they'll settle with that.

 

[Three]

Uhm yes it is until it isn't anymore *shrug* people don't buy consoles for Bloodborne .the last of us....fable or flight sim....there is nothing strange about that ...surely when you enter a ecosystem you will use it to the fullest and it is normal for a PlayStation user to try out its best games.....the same is true of the Microsoft ecosystem. Another matter is how many consoles in % have sold just because of Bloodborne, returnal, Flight Sim, Forza h5 etc. etc. .... I bet the PlayStation sales would not drop by a single unit if it was revealed tomorrow that there will be no Bloodborne 2. ..... Try to say that the console will not receive GTA 6 and and see what will happen.

Please don't move goalposts to bloodborne and FIFA, GTA etc. You're only exaggerating everything. The console isn't missing the games you listed and we aren't talking about bloodborne here. We're talking about Spiderman. In the top 5 of your source of most played games and it's on a single console.

"Spider Man and co only sold that many copies because people bought the console they are on because of games like Call of Duty. This argument falls flat on its face instantly."

Spiderman could be one of those games that influences a console purchase. If anything a lot of these games outsold COD on a given platform. Spiderman is more popular on PS4/PS5 than COD is outside of its launch month. It constantly outsells it if you look at NPDs throughout the year.

 

[Gameplaylover]

Why would you care or anyone in this board care about casuals?
Cod is in decline. 40% this year. Diablo 4 and overwatch 2 creative directors have left. Crash 4 underperformed and they definitely aren't making spyro. If I was xbox fan I would be pissed. The amount of games they could make with 70b. Activision definitely isnt worth tgat money. But that just me.

That's what i thought

 

[MonarchJT]

Please don't move goalposts to bloodborne and FIFA, GTA etc. You're only exaggerating everything. The console isn't missing the games you listed and we aren't talking about bloodborne here. We're talking about Spiderman. In the top 5 of your source of most played games and it's on a single console.

"Spider Man and co only sold that many copies because people bought the console they are on because of games like Call of Duty. This argument falls flat on its face instantly."

Spiderman could be one of those games that influences a console purchase. If anything a lot of these games outsold COD on a given platform. Spiderman is more popular on PS4/PS5 than COD is outside of its launch month. It constantly outsells it if you look at NPDs throughout the year.

my fuckin gosh the ignorance of this post.
No. period

 

[Godot25]

Why would you care or anyone in this board care about casuals?
Cod is in decline. 40% this year. Diablo 4 and overwatch 2 creative directors have left. Crash 4 underperformed and they definitely aren't making spyro. If I was xbox fan I would be pissed. The amount of games they could make with 70b. Activision definitely isnt worth tgat money. But that just me.

COD is in decline "this year." And since probably every Sledgehammer Games COD games under performed (WWII too) I would not see this as a brand decline. This year is Modern Warfare II. By Infinity Ward. If this game won't reverse course than it is time to start panick maybe. Not until then.

Diablo 4 CD was fired, not left. Because he was a POS human being at a first place. So, no biggie.

And why on earth should be Xbox fans pissed about this deal? It's not their money Microsoft spent. And they will have every Acti-Blizz game (yes, Call of Duty too) in Game Pass day one.

 

[MrFunSocks]

Please don't move goalposts to bloodborne and FIFA, GTA etc. You're only exaggerating everything. The console isn't missing the games you listed and we aren't talking about bloodborne here. We're talking about Spiderman. In the top 5 of your source of most played games and it's on a single console.

"Spider Man and co only sold that many copies because people bought the console they are on because of games like Call of Duty. This argument falls flat on its face instantly."

Spiderman could be one of those games that influences a console purchase. If anything a lot of these games outsold COD on a given platform. Spiderman is more popular on PS4/PS5 than COD is outside of its launch month. It constantly outsells it if you look at NPDs throughout the year.

If spider man outsells COD that would mean that Spider-Man was the biggest selling game of the year on PlayStation, right? It wasn’t.

 

[SLB1904]

Spider-Man is selling 20 million because it is a Spider-Man, not because of Insomniac. Which is really a fact when you look at sales of Rift Apart.

Lol
How many copies did Activision spideys sold. I mean it's sells because its spiderman inst it?

Is like some of you don't even think lol

 

[reksveks]

Why would you care or anyone in this board care about casuals?
Cod is in decline. 40% this year. Diablo 4 and overwatch 2 creative directors have left. Crash 4 underperformed and they definitely aren't making spyro. If I was xbox fan I would be pissed. The amount of games they could make with 70b. Activision definitely isnt worth tgat money. But that just me.

People ask the same questions re the sales threads, no?

As a xbox fan, personally idgaf about the Activision ip, do about Blizzard though and hopefully MS revives though.

Sort of between consumer and shareholder, Activision-Blizzard are still stupidly profitable, the consumer hopes those investments allows MS to take more risks in other ips/genres.

As a shareholder, I am wondering what % of the console userbase, this could convince that the xbox becomes the default 3rd party box and what impact does that have on the dlc/mtx/game revenue that MS gets?

 

[assurdum]

Do I agree but I think Sony should really start to plane something to keep in safe itself to the future MS strategies because MS could end to eliminate all the major AAA western publishers from the regular market putting under their Gamepass umbrella, if they want. They need to start to think seriously to this possibility, not just hope MS will won't or beg them to have such titles without Gamepass. Of course, if they are fine to have Gamepass on playstation, there is no problem I guess.

 

[TintoConCasera]

I love the smell of copium in the morning.

 

[Three]

If spider man outsells COD that would mean that Spider-Man was the biggest selling game of the year on PlayStation, right? It wasn’t.

Only if you're daft. Spiderman launched in 2020. It outsells COD on Playstation most months.
Vanguard launched this year and so would for 2021. September NPD for Playstation for example before Vanguard launch

1 Madden NFL 22
2 FIFA 22
3 NBA 2K22
4 Deathloop
5 Tales of Arise
6 Ghost of Tsushima
7 Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales
8 Diablo II: Resurrected
9 Call of Duty: Black Ops: Cold War

October NPD
1 Far Cry 6
2 Back 4 Blood
3 Madden NFL 22
4 FIFA 22
5 Demon Slayer
6 Marvel’s Guardians of the Galaxy
7 NHL 22
8 NBA 2K22
9 Ghost of Tsushima
10 Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales


If people were buying a Playstation for COD and then only end up playing Spiderman as a result why is it that those who buy a PS5 end up getting Spiderman instead of the latest COD?

Because the idea that Spiderman only sells because of COD is daft.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Lol
How many copies did Activision spideys sold. I mean it's sells because its spiderman inst it?

Is like some of you don't even think lol

were activision spider man games launched in the height of Marvels cinematic dominance?
im not too sure.

insomniac are amazing developers but the hype for the movies deffo helped with the sales of the game. Also, it is a pretty damn good game so that definitely adds a lot. Plus exclusives just get so much more hype, especially for a franchise so big.

I can’t wait for the sequel and wolverine.

onto other peoples points of expanding first party or even MS should have spent that money elsewhere. It takes a lot to build teams from scratch and create something new. It wouldn’t be easy for Sony and it wouldn’t be easy for MS.

MS, has secured tons of staff and a load of ip rights. If they did StarCraft ghosts or something it would make fans go crazy at the announcement.

sony can’t just “make more games” over night, same for Ms. It will take years to build studios and IP.

 

[Godot25]

Lol
How many copies did Activision spideys sold. I mean it's sells because its spiderman inst it?

Is like some of you don't even think lol

Yeah. Because Spider-Man was clearly breaking box office records during pandemic when Activision made The Amazing Spider-Man games right?

Clearly market has not changed at all, right?

Of course I'm not saying that quality of game was not a factor. But brand recognition was a most important reason of Insomniac's Spider-Man success. Which is clear, when they made equally great game (Rift Apart) which sold fraction of what Spider-Man sold.

That's why I always laugh at the notion of "Sony does need Call of Duty, because they will make their own Call of Duty." Microsoft had to paid 70 billion BECAUSE it is Call of Duty and brand has so much value. You can't just magically create something as successful and as valuable.

 

[assurdum]

were activision spider man games launched in the height of Marvels cinematic dominance?
im not too sure.

insomniac are amazing developers but the hype for the movies deffo helped with the sales of the game. Also, it is a pretty damn good game so that definitely adds a lot. Plus exclusives just get so much more hype, especially for a franchise so big.

I can’t wait for the sequel and wolverine.

onto other peoples points of expanding first party or even MS should have spent that money elsewhere. It takes a lot to build teams from scratch and create something new. It wouldn’t be easy for Sony and it wouldn’t be easy for MS.

MS, has secured tons of staff and a load of ip rights. If they did StarCraft ghosts or something it would make fans go crazy at the announcement.

sony can’t just “make more games” over night, same for Ms. It will take years to build studios and IP.

I still think invest in emerging studio is far better strategy to send quality titles than acquire big publishers for their big brands. The big issue of MS that is totally incapable to produce and promote new ips. Acquire major publisher will fix it? I have great doubt.

 

[MonarchJT]

Only if you're daft. Spiderman launched in 2020. It outsells COD on Playstation most months.
Vanguard launched this year and so would for 2021. September NPD for Playstation for example before Vanguard launch

1 Madden NFL 22
2 FIFA 22
3 NBA 2K22
4 Deathloop
5 Tales of Arise
6 Ghost of Tsushima
7 Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales
8 Diablo II: Resurrected
9 Call of Duty: Black Ops: Cold War

October NPD
1 Far Cry 6
2 Back 4 Blood
3 Madden NFL 22
4 FIFA 22
5 Demon Slayer
6 Marvel’s Guardians of the Galaxy
7 NHL 22
8 NBA 2K22
9 Ghost of Tsushima
10 Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales


If people were buying a Playstation for COD and then only end up playing Spiderman as a result why is it that those who buy a PS5 end up getting Spiderman instead of the latest COD?

Because the idea that Spiderman only sells because of COD is daft.

"In December 2020, it was confirmed that the game had sold 5.7 million digital units. Within its first six weeks of release, the game earned $678 million. The NPD Group named it the best selling game of 2020 and also ranked it as the twentieth bestselling video game in the United States by lifetime dollar sales."

as i said you have no idea of what you talking about or just blind for your ps love

 

[Swift_Star]

"In December 2020, it was confirmed that the game had sold 5.7 million digital units. Within its first six weeks of release, the game earned $678 million. The NPD Group named it the best selling game of 2020 and also ranked it as the twentieth bestselling video game in the United States by lifetime dollar sales."

ok but what is the source that proves spider man sales and cod sales are correlated?

 

[Papacheeks]

Jesus
These threads are like

There is nothing wrong with admitting that ActiBlizz deal strengthen Xbox's position on market and Sony realistically don't have an answer to it. And clinging to 229 million Insomniac deal while not mentioning fact that studio did not have any IP's worth paying for and that was a reason why they were so cheap is pinnacle of desperation. Spider-Man is selling 20 million because it is a Spider-Man, not because of Insomniac. Which is really a fact when you look at sales of Rift Apart.

Reality is. Sony can't afford arms race with Microsoft. They had to hope, that Microsoft will keep Call of Duty on PlayStation and I would not be surprised if Microsoft would want "something in return" from Sony.

They don't need an answer though, i said it before, but this was the best thing to happen to Playstation. It forces them not to rely on Third party which I believe the past couple years with moves they made are responses to their internal talks when looking at the books.

Now we have a shit load of projects within their First party studios and third party funded games from Deviation(ex black ops developers, bungie lead) Jade redmond's new title which is a online game, new twisted metal, factions, Gurreilla's second project which is a shooter of sorts.

They never had to rely on games like Call of duty during PS2 days, even with GTA, MADDEN being biggest selling, they still had so much market share and games that all sold millions. PS3 era was another where ONline was huge, and the premier place to play third party games and Call of duty was xbox. Yet after a disaster of a launch, and them almost going bankrupt, they continued to get market share when they started releasing games and bundling them with them with the console.

This is no different. It's just the past gen in ramping up their studios and having some growing pains along the way, they heavily leaned on GTA, FIFA, COD. But GTA in terms of mass adoption has subsided, Madden might be getting challenged in the sports space. COD is not selling like it use to. It's still the #1 seller, but there's now more to choose from online wise, like warzone, fortnite, Halo, and other B tier multipler games.

 

[Three]

"In December 2020, it was confirmed that the game had sold 5.7 million digital units. Within its first six weeks of release, the game earned $678 million. The NPD Group named it the best selling game of 2020 and also ranked it as the twentieth bestselling video game in the United States by lifetime dollar sales."

as i said you have no idea of what you talking about or just blind for your ps love

What does this prove?

That 5.7 M units were sold across playstation, xbox and PC therefore people only buy a Playstation for COD and only end up playing Spiderman? No? Didn't think so.

 

[MonarchJT]

ok but what is the source that proves spider man sales and cod sales are correlated?

who said they are? I said that if you remove from one console fifa cod and GTA that hw will probably fail, no matter how many gears of war or spiderman you put on it. meanwhile if you remove gear or spiderman

 

[Lupin25]

Jesus
These threads are like

There is nothing wrong with admitting that ActiBlizz deal strengthen Xbox's position on market and Sony realistically don't have an answer to it. And clinging to 229 million Insomniac deal while not mentioning fact that studio did not have any IP's worth paying for and that was a reason why they were so cheap is pinnacle of desperation. Spider-Man is selling 20 million because it is a Spider-Man, not because of Insomniac. Which is really a fact when you look at sales of Rift Apart.

Reality is. Sony can't afford arms race with Microsoft. They had to hope, that Microsoft will keep Call of Duty on PlayStation and I would not be surprised if Microsoft would want "something in return" from Sony.

Hope, isn’t as much as what made sense.

Activision-Blizzard have an 120+ mil. PS userbase to cater to, MS doesn’t want the backlash either.

And I doubt it. At this point, COD (BF2042, Far Cry 6, etc.) is on the decline and even then, it doesn’t sell enough individually whatsoever to ensure long-term brand demise (ie. It’s not 2011).

Having exclusive online offerings like Genshin Impact, Final Fantasy, etc. will be how Sony offsets any negative sales impact:

If they don’t offer COD (as well as any other titles) in the future, they’ll simply offer an equivalent or better.

 

[SLB1904]

Yeah. Because Spider-Man was clearly breaking box office records during pandemic when Activision made The Amazing Spider-Man games

Of course I'm not saying that quality of game was not a factor. But brand recognition was a most important reason of Insomniac's Spider-Man success. Which is clear, when they made equally great game (Rift Apart) which sold fraction of what Spider-Man sold.

Go check. Every single spidey movie was a box office hit, and I don't know why you think is related when Every single marvel game bombed or underperformed, but spidey.

Ratchet never was and never will be a blockbuster in sales. The game already selling better than previous entries. Of course spidey is more recognised but if its crap it won't sell

 

[Swift_Star]

who said they are? I said that if you remove from one console fifa cod and GTA that hw will probably fail, no matter how many gears of war or spiderman you put on it. meanwhile if you remove gear or spiderman

Amazing how fine Switch is doing without GTA and CoD, huh?

 

[Godot25]

Go check. Every single spidey movie was a box office hit, and I don't know why you think is related when Every single marvel game bombed or underperformed, but spidey.

Ratchet never was and never will be a blockbuster in sales. The game already selling better than previous entries. Of course spidey is more recognised but if its crap it won't sell

Spider-Man: No Way Home

www.boxofficemojo.com

The Amazing Spider-Man

www.boxofficemojo.com

Yeah. That's comparable

 

[MonarchJT]

Hope, isn’t as much as what made sense.

Activision-Blizzard have an 120+ mil. PS userbase to cater to, MS doesn’t want the backlash either.

And I doubt it. At this point, COD (BF2042, Far Cry 6, etc.) is on the decline and even then, it doesn’t sell enough individually whatsoever to ensure long-term brand demise (ie. It’s not 2011).

Having exclusive online offerings like Genshin Impact, Final Fantasy, etc. will be how Sony offsets any negative sales impact:

If they don’t offer COD (as well as any other titles) in the future, they’ll simply offer an equivalent or better.

reading those post i wish we really have just one year without cod on playstation to see a revolt against Sony....and laugh our ass off about those comments

 

[MonarchJT]

Amazing how fine Switch is doing without GTA and CoD, huh?

this was 3 years ago...just before Ms escalation

- Sony Takes A Dig At Nintendo’s “Lack of Third Party Support

- Does Sony have the right number of first-party developers and studios for the console war?

"For Worldwide Studios now, our output, the number of teams we have, I think it’s about the right size for what we need to do. We’re never going to be like Nintendo, holding the lion’s share of the Nintendo platform game business, because that’s not the way we work. We want to make the PlayStation platform available to all of our third-partners. I think we build success for PlayStation by getting as many people inside the tent as possible that aren’t necessarily controlled by Worldwide Studios.

For Worldwide Studios, our road to success is not necessarily measured by how many studios or how many people I have. It’s if we’re creating significant, impactful, important content that’s either first, best, or must-have products. I don’t really think it’s a numbers game like that."

 

[SLB1904]

Spider-Man: No Way Home

www.boxofficemojo.com

The Amazing Spider-Man

www.boxofficemojo.com

Yeah. That's comparable

Dude that's over 750mil box office. Are you serious?

Why did Avengers bomb? Last time I checked is the record braker box office

Also spidey release in 2017 not in 2021

 

[Papacheeks]

Spider-Man: No Way Home

www.boxofficemojo.com

The Amazing Spider-Man

www.boxofficemojo.com

Yeah. That's comparable

How does this go against what he said? Only under Performer from my understanding is Amazing SPiderman 2? Spiderman minus Amazing SPiderman 2, has sold shit loads? What are you arguing?

 

[Kokoloko85]

No.
Whats the point sitting back and letting MS buy all the 3rd party Ip.
Imagine a playstation where you cant play Resident Evil, Tekken, GTA, DMC, MGS, Yakuza. All classic Games that their popularity was built on Playstation.

Sony needs to buy some 3rd party IP’s now so that MS doesnt take them away forever. Otherwise yeah they wouldnt need to buy 3rd party studios.

Plus Sony needs more than 1st party to make money

 

[Leyasu]

They don't need an answer though, i said it before, but this was the best thing to happen to Playstation. It forces them not to rely on Third party which I believe the past couple years with moves they made are responses to their internal talks when looking at the books.

Now we have a shit load of projects within their First party studios and third party funded games from Deviation(ex black ops developers, bungie lead) Jade redmond's new title which is a online game, new twisted metal, factions, Gurreilla's second project which is a shooter of sorts.

They never had to rely on games like Call of duty during PS2 days, even with GTA, MADDEN being biggest selling, they still had so much market share and games that all sold millions. PS3 era was another where ONline was huge, and the premier place to play third party games and Call of duty was xbox. Yet after a disaster of a launch, and them almost going bankrupt, they continued to get market share when they started releasing games and bundling them with them with the console.

This is no different. It's just the past gen in ramping up their studios and having some growing pains along the way, they heavily leaned on GTA, FIFA, COD. But GTA in terms of mass adoption has subsided, Madden might be getting challenged in the sports space. COD is not selling like it use to. It's still the #1 seller, but there's now more to choose from online wise, like warzone, fortnite, Halo, and other B tier multipler games.

This isn’t the best thing to happen to them by any stretch of the imagination.

They are going to lose not only a massive cash cow, but A reason (don’t confuse with the only reason which is not what I am implying here)to buy their console and by extension the people who would’ve have bought it to play with their friends.

Those new I.Ps in development are not guaranteed to be major successes either. Same with any new I.P. Although I do see what you mean by having relied on 3rd party devs for certain genres, any reboots of dormant games from their back catalogue will take years to appear.

Trying to correlate the success of the PS2 without cod back then makes no sense. The PS2 was propelled great heights by being released before Xbox and GameCube, coupled with GTA providing the rocket fuel. Madden and Gran tourismo helped to. Obviously with a large market share and install base, other good games will sell in their millions too.

I am not saying that Sony is dead, they will be fine. But they will lose market share and install base, and by extension they will see lower sales of games. So no, it’s not fine or the best thing that could have happened at all imo. And I would imagine that the executives at Sony are thinking the same too.

 

[Swift_Star]

this was 3 years ago...just before Ms escalation

- Sony Takes A Dig At Nintendo’s “Lack of Third Party Support

- Does Sony have the right number of first-party developers and studios for the console war?

"For Worldwide Studios now, our output, the number of teams we have, I think it’s about the right size for what we need to do. We’re never going to be like Nintendo, holding the lion’s share of the Nintendo platform game business, because that’s not the way we work. We want to make the PlayStation platform available to all of our third-partners. I think we build success for PlayStation by getting as many people inside the tent as possible that aren’t necessarily controlled by Worldwide Studios.

For Worldwide Studios, our road to success is not necessarily measured by how many studios or how many people I have. It’s if we’re creating significant, impactful, important content that’s either first, best, or must-have products. I don’t really think it’s a numbers game like that."

Good. Everyone can do that. Nobody is doomed.

 

[alabtrosMyster]

Microsoft’s strategy is to carve out gaming as their own so that Google, Apple and Meta stay the hell away. In doing this, they limit PlayStation too. D

I see what you mean, but I don't see how MS (a third rate player in gaming since they joined in) are the ones that keep apple etc. Away from gaming, especially given that any of these companies have not been able to break in (outside mobile f2p gaming, which may just be the most profitable kind of gaming).

MS aren't any better than the ones you guys claim they are blocking (and this is a strange take anyway)... Now if they want a CoD, halo, Forza, gears, box to be the future of gaming... Count me out.

 

[Three]

who said they are? I said that if you remove from one console fifa cod and GTA that hw will probably fail, no matter how many gears of war or spiderman you put on it. meanwhile if you remove gear or spiderman

What if I told you that if COD goes exclusive, COD now becomes the new "Gears or Spiderman"?

 

[RoboFu]

For the 4567669 time.

Activision wanted to be bought and MS wanted cod day one on game pass.

The end

 

[Leyasu]

What if I told you that if COD goes exclusive, COD now becomes the new "Gears or Spiderman"?

Big fat fucking assumption there me ol mate lol.

COD+warzone/fortnite/GTA plus others are so big and popular, that they would be system sellers for years.

 

[MonarchJT]

What if I told you that if COD goes exclusive, COD now becomes the new "Gears or Spiderman"?

If all goes for the worse, for PlayStation only they would be excluded. COD will never go Xbox exclusive it will be always on console (Xbox) Windows PC, android , iOS , MacOS.

 

[Umbasaborne]

 

[arvfab]

who said they are? I said that if you remove from one console fifa cod and GTA that hw will probably fail

Poor Nintendo, they failed with the Switch and they don't know it, yet
They are probably wondering where all that money is coming from