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Bloomberg: Sony to reveal Spartacus next week

ToadMan

Member
"Most expensive tier gives access to demos"

I don't see the sense in this, but if true we went from free demos and free online to paid online and paid demos within 2 generations...
They’re not demos - they’re access to the full game for a time limited period like Cyberpunk just had. 5 hours was decent enough and I bought it (again) after getting that far with it on PS5.

According to GP subscribers, they buy good games they got to try out even though they’re on GP, so this is the same right? Right….?

Anyway let’s see.
 
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ANDS

King of Gaslighting
Really interested to see what they've got lined up. I doubt it will reverse some of their questionable anti-consumer practices, but we shall see.

Bless Jim Ryan Go PlayStation Nation yadayadayada

Can't wait to move on from this garbage

. . .you can do that now.
 

Markio128

Member
How can anyone resist to a "splashy" line up...
Fashion Falling GIF
 

JaksGhost

Member
Sony or the media?

The media because they believe that consumers will compare the two when deciding what platform +service to buy into. I am kinda with them on that.
The media keeps doing to it for clicks which only helps confuse the consumer even further. Sony just wants to retain their PS Plus subscribers, get a few extra dollars out of them, and incentivize those that have a PlayStation (4 or 5) to finally sign up for a subscription. Time and time again they keep saying it won't be a 1:1 equivalent on top of always quoting it won't be like Gamepass, yet it seems to be the only term they know. Same with streaming services and Netflix. Everything new in streaming is trying to be the Netflix of XYZ.
 

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
The media keeps doing to it for clicks which only helps confuse the consumer even further. Sony just wants to retain their PS Plus subscribers, get a few extra dollars out of them, and incentivize those that have a PlayStation (4 or 5) to finally sign up for a subscription. Time and time again they keep saying it won't be a 1:1 equivalent on top of always quoting it won't be like Gamepass, yet it seems to be the only term they know. Same with streaming services and Netflix. Everything new in streaming is trying to be the Netflix of XYZ.

The media has an addiction to saying GamePass. It's nasty.
 

Ceelic21

Neo Member
I haven't owned a playstation since the 3rd one but if this allows me to stream PS games to my PC I'm down for this.
 

Mr Moose

Member
I don't give a shit about PS Now.
Prices for normal PS+ better not increase, though wouldn't mind some anime stuff.
Takachi Mochisuki?

Isn't this the guy who promised us a Switch Pro for late 2020 / early 2021?
Oh, Takashi Mochizuki is always full of shit.
I haven't owned a playstation since the 3rd one but if this allows me to stream PS games to my PC I'm down for this.
 
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Chukhopops

Member
Demos, streaming and games « from recent years » for up to $16 a month?

Im gonna go with doubt because it’s Schreier and Bloomberg but if true I doubt this will break the meta.
 

reksveks

Member
The media keeps doing to it for clicks which only helps confuse the consumer even further. Sony just wants to retain their PS Plus subscribers, get a few extra dollars out of them, and incentivize those that have a PlayStation (4 or 5) to finally sign up for a subscription. Time and time again they keep saying it won't be a 1:1 equivalent on top of always quoting it won't be like Gamepass, yet it seems to be the only term they know. Same with streaming services and Netflix. Everything new in streaming is trying to be the Netflix of XYZ.
I agree with most of that (including the motivations about increasing the ARPU and attach rate) and still believe that naturally consumers will compare it to Gamepass and Netflix, they don't have to be mutually exclusive reasons.
 

Withnail

Member
Makes sense, I think the PS4/5 firmware updates this week were a pre-requisite. Now they're out it's ready to go.

Btw forget any possibility of full PS1-PS2 libraries, if there are legacy games at all it will mostly be the same old titles that we've seen before. The licensing/distribution issues with many of those old games haven't gone away.
 

reksveks

Member
Makes sense, I think the PS4/5 firmware updates this week were a pre-requisite. Now they're out it's ready to go.

Btw forget any possibility of full PS1-PS2 libraries, if there are legacy games at all it will mostly be the same old titles that we've seen before. The licensing/distribution issues with many of those old games haven't gone away.
it's also the end of the Q next week friday.

Yeah, people forget the issue about licensing alot.
 
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Jigsaah

Gold Member
just bought PS Now for my PC because I assume I am going to get bumped to the highest tier.

Do you mean for native games?
Oh so this is gonna be an extension of PS NOW? Was not aware of that. I thought it was gonna be something brand new.

I guess my hope is that they come out with something similar to what Xbox has. Most of the games available on Xbox Game Pass are also available on PC Gamepass. I'm not really expecting day and date releases, but more PC ports would be awesome.
 
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adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
People seriously don't understand how great streaming can be until you see a game listed that you wanted to try out and you can begin playing it instantly without having to download it.

Yeah but this is only streaming, I can see why people are frustrated with that.
 

hemo memo

Gold Member
Hopefully people with existing PS+ subs will be upgraded to the highest tier automatically.
Nah they are greedy and they’ll put everyone on lowest or midtier with a cheap upgrade with current subscription. They’ll not converte everyone to the highest tier. Best hope is midtier.
 

T-Cake

Member
People seriously don't understand how great streaming can be until you see a game listed that you wanted to try out and you can begin playing it instantly without having to download it.

Indeed, Google Stadia saved me from the horror of Far Cry 6 last night. Didn't like it at all so glad I didn't download all 80-odd GB from Ubisoft.
 

reksveks

Member
Oh so this is gonna be an extension of PS NOW? Was not aware of that. I thought it was gonna be something brand new.

I guess my hope is that they come out with something similar to what Xbox has. Most of the games available on Xbox Game Pass are also available on PC Gamepass. I'm not really expecting day and date releases, but more PC ports would be awesome.
Its a bit weird but it seems like PS Now is a part of the highest tier so if i was someone without either, I would tell them to just get PS Now because it makes sense that they match you to the service with the same features so effectively you would be get PS+ free.

I don't expect Spartacus to cover PC games sadly but could be wrong on this, that would be pretty good though imo.
 
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Shubh_C63

Member
I had a discounted year long PS+ earlier and hardly played anything out of those.

If this thing is cheap I really want to try this again for indie games.
 

kyliethicc

Member
BTW

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BennyBlanco

aka IMurRIVAL69
People seriously don't understand how great streaming can be until you see a game listed that you wanted to try out and you can begin playing it instantly without having to download it.

I haven’t tried Ps Now in a very long time but I played DMC5 from amazon prime in my browser just to see how it was and I was pretty impressed. I wouldn’t wanna play a whole game like that but as you said it’s pretty cool just to mess around with and demo a game.
 

yurinka

Member
As always, Bloomberg trying to make everything related to Sony as bad as possible: "but Sony lags behind Microsoft’s efforts in the streaming market."

How do they know that if Microsoft never mentioned the amount of subscribers that use xCloud, and not even how many GPU subs do they have? Right now there is no way to know if xCloud is more popular than PS Now because MS never shared their numbers.


Hopefully it's available on PC worldwide unlike the ps now utter failure. That's the only way it can compete with game pass.
PS Now is not even available worldwide and that thing was released on 2014/2015 IIRC.
I don't really expect Spartacus to be available on every market either and that's a negative unless they are planning a surprise worldwide release.

Both PS Now and xCloud are limited to around 2 or 3 dozen countries (a few more in the case of MS).

Cloud gaming needs the player to be close to the servers, meaning that they must put a shit ton of servers around the globe in the covered countries or close to them to have a decent input lag. In addittion to this, each server serves way less players at the same time than video streaming, webs or multiplayer game servers meaning that server costs are way more expensive for cloud gaming than for other services.

For this reason Sony and Microsoft -and the other cloud gaming services- are only limited to certain countries, they focus on these a handful dozen countries who cover 80% of their gaming revenue.

I think the Spartacus top (PS Now/Cloud gaming) tier will continue being limited to these countries (maybe they add a handful more) but that the other two tiers will be available worldwide.

One would be the normal PS Plus tier that already is available worldwide, and the other one would be the equivalent to base GamePass tier, meaning that -available worldwide- it would include the hundreds of downloadable games of PS Now but wouldn't include its cloud gaming.

Why do they keep calling it a Game Pass competitor. When everything we have heard makes it seem more like Nintendo Online.
Because Game Pass and xCloud was Microsoft's answer to PS Now and its long term plans Sony announced back in 2014 on their PS Now reveal.

PS Now/Spartacus and Gamepass feature many hundreds of games of modern and old platforms that can be played on multiple platforms, via cloud gaming or game download. Nintendo Online don't.
 
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arvfab

Banned
They’re not demos - they’re access to the full game for a time limited period like Cyberpunk just had. 5 hours was decent enough and I bought it (again) after getting that far with it on PS5.

According to GP subscribers, they buy good games they got to try out even though they’re on GP, so this is the same right? Right….?

Anyway let’s see.

Well game trials already were/are a thing (although not well utilized) in PS+
 
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