FunkMiller
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Sony really haven’t been all that great at corporate messaging or providing value to players recently, so this isn’t a surprise.
They've been pretty good at making money tho, their revenue is even up.Sony really haven’t been all that great at corporate messaging or providing value to players recently, so this isn’t a surprise.
They just need to make discount deals. Since the relaunch the PS+ subscription hasent got a single discount deal. I only resub when they make deals.I've seen this sentiment across GAF and other sites a lot. People seemingly don't want to keep subscribed to PS+ long term. If Sony wants to make their sub service a core part of their services, they need to seriously look at either start giving day 1 games, or make it like 1~3 month or something instead of a full year's delay.
Not if you saw the new tiers price and what they give.Wow. Loosing nearly 2 million subs especially after a relaunch is insane..
Yeah I likely won’t resubscribe when my prepayment ends in 2024. The delayed game catalogue release strategy is messing it all up for me, it only work if you’re a notorious LTTP gamer.
The reality is that within a year no new 1st party games they upload will matter because I will have already played them all.
It was great at launch though. I got to play Returnal and Miles Morales among other big AAA Sony games.
But now it’s just about being cheap and stubbornly wait and then the service isn’t appealing anymore.
Of course revenue is up, they just introduced 2 higher priced tiers. This isn't surprising at all.
I mean obviously there's nothing impressive about it. They've hit their roadblock as far as subscriber growth goes and that's been obvious since 2021. The focus now is retention and increasing RPU
Wow. Loosing nearly 2 million subs especially after a relaunch is insane..
They've been pretty good at making money tho, their revenue is even up.
4% drop in subscribers and 21% increase in revenue....... interesting.
In all fairness Sony themselves (Andrew House) said they saw statics that about mid console cycle people started leaving Playstation and moving to PC and thats what the PS4 Pro was designed to try and stopPS5 pro will keep people defecting to PC.
Right?
Meanwhile, GoWR will drop and the revenue will continue to grow. Then Spider-Man 2, other deals they have in place, etc, etc..True, but that's not likely to continue if they don't ensure they're seen to be providing value for money to their customers.
They are though, they've given consumers quality exclusives games.True, but that's not likely to continue if they don't ensure they're seen to be providing value for money to their customers.
People purchase games because there is no alternative. Unless you’re okay with waiting and playing in a year or two. With rare exceptions like Stray.Couple of things:
- As long as people are actually purchasing games (which they are, especially so with the larger titles as proven by recent COD and GoW numbers) then they have no incentive to change the structure and staggered approach. If anything what's happening is reinforcing their strategy as being the correct one.
- ARPU for PS Plus is up. Again, an indication that the current structure is working for them. They don't want everyone to be subscribed to anything beyond PS Plus essential.
Thanks to the weak JPY, yes.But did you read in between the lines? Their sub service revenue is UP.
Currency is weak in every country.Thanks to the weak JPY, yes.
Considering their main competition was able to grow their subscription service in the same period, I'd say the 4% drop is more surprising.With that being said, I guess you can also ask the question, what's more surprising?
A post-covid 4% drop in subscribers or a 21% increase in revenue post PS Plus reboot?
Is the main competition increasing prices?Considering their main competition was able to grow their subscription service in the same period, I'd say the 4% drop is more surprising.
Did the price of ps+ essentials go up? Not a gotcha question, I honestly don't know.Is the main competition increasing prices?
People getting hit the hardest by inflation cutting a subscription service AND those who stayed subscribed and jumped on the highest paid tier increasing revenue can both be true thoughI don't see any proof of causation, if that's what's being implied. The old tier is still the same, and still costs the same, so it wouldn't make sense that people would unsubscribe BECAUSE OF the new tiers. So it's just natural variations I would guess.
More interesting data would be how many of those who are still subscribed (which is most) have upgraded to a higher tier.
Does Netflix have game sales and MTX to fall back on? Netflix's only model is subscriptions, that is why they freaked out. Yet, they still raised the prices as well, even with the loss.I see some people doing the spin.
But this is just weird. Losing 2M people is insane. I dont think this is ideal at all. I mean, Netflix was freaking out for 200.000
No.Did the price of ps+ essentials go up? Not a gotcha question, I honestly don't know.
Sony saw this drop during other consoles and admitted they saw the stats so not sure why it would surprise people it happened againI see some people doing the spin.
But this is just weird. Losing 2M people is insane. I dont think this is ideal at all. I mean, Netflix was freaking out for 200.000
I see some people doing the spin.
But this is just weird. Losing 2M people is insane. I dont think this is ideal at all. I mean, Netflix was freaking out for 200.000
No. But that is not he point I am making. The point is about losing this amount of subscribers (regardless of how people interact with your ecosystems).Does Netflix have game sales and MTX to fall back on?
I am bringing Netflix because they have like 200M subscribers right?Netflix's only model is subscriptions, that is why they freaked out. Yet, they still raised the prices as well, even with the loss.
They said why. They anticipated it as well, it was not a shock to them.No. But that is not he point I am making. The point is about losing this amount of subscribers (regardless of how people interact with your ecosystems).
I am bringing Netflix because they have like 200M subscribers right?
So 200,000 of 200M ain't that big.
2M of 60M is a huge.
I think it is because of the introduction of new tiers and "day one" games. (Even if not explicit) in other words: more exciting content because it's new = people would feel more enticed to subscribe.Sony saw this drop during other consoles and admitted they saw the stats so not sure why it would surprise people it happened again
People are reading too much into it.They said why. They anticipated it as well, it was not a shock to them.
I guess they were basically forced to go to a subscription model in order to be able to afford their AAA games.