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No one listed those games....Would love to flight sim, forza horizon 5, starfield
No one listed those games....Would love to flight sim, forza horizon 5, starfield
Sony exclusives won a dozen Game Awards a few days ago plus announced there a new Kojima game, the sequel of what pretty likely is or will be his best selling game ever, announced a dlc of the fastest selling Guerrilla Games ever (sequel of one that sold over 20M units) and a couple of PC ports. Which was a big contrast compared to their direct competition.No they are winning based on previous gen momentum.
Exclusives are such a small piece of the pie. I don't ever understand why people here praise them like they are the be all end all
Good to hear that even you are calling these games “walking simulators” as I have not used that term, as not all Sony walk sims (there are some notable exceptions). But I cannot see even 1 game Sony released this gen that would push medium forwards. Historically they have done it, but this gen there is a lack of effort.To me it shows you are recognising and overselling MS while doing little more than hand waving years and years of Sony’s publishing and development work as “walking simulators”… not even recognising advancement in advancing the medium through a tech perspective (two weights and two measures and all that).
If anything Sony is doing more damage to the medium with how much it pushed the cinematic linear approach through the past decade.
You are transitioning from a person tangent with gaming to a real gamer, that's what happening. Congratulations!They are amazingly crafted and I used to love them but I guess my tastes are just changing
I have listed in my previous post…regardless obviously these are not fitting your narrative so we should ignore these exist. Understood.No one listed those games....
These are facts, not excuses.Tired of these excuses.
Japan was fully onboard home console train for most of PS3/wii generation.
Their working conditions/ society didn't change overnight.
Companies never focused on engagement, keeping people hooked there.
If I play some of current Japanese games, I would also abandon consoles and find a new passtime.
This was not profit. revenue if I remember...
anyway - people eat this shit up... They are talking away our value, games, ownership and we are happy to pay for all of it and take pants down ourselves. Seriously, what is happening?!
Physical will die soon, services will triumph... is that really what people want ?!
I've played all of those games aside from Starfield....which I'm going to play on my Series X. Wtf are you talking about?I have listed in my previous post…regardless obviously these are not fitting your narrative so we should ignore these exist. Understood.
People who say this shit make me chuckle.If anything Sony is doing more damage to the medium with how much it pushed the cinematic linear approach through the past decade.
people are stupid... they will pay for worse deal. Their choiceYes it’s what people want. It’s the future and it’s superior. Digital, anyway. Services, I don’t think they’ll ever “take over” traditional sales.
They are not walking simulators, but I like this pretending you are above going to that old talking point . Cute…Good to hear that even you are calling these games “walking simulators” as I have not used that term, as not all Sony walk sims (there are some notable exceptions). But I cannot see even 1 game Sony released this gen that would push medium forwards. Historically they have done it, but this gen there is a lack of effort.
It's 1$ only on pc for some audience. I never caimed otherwise.Yeah, 3 billion revenue can only be made with a $1 cost by 3 billion people subscribing to it. That was the point. You claimed that the subs cost $1 - do you believe MS has 3 billion subscribers to game pass? If not, you should probably make a correction to your post, because it’s wrong.
The value and games points are subjective but ownership is clearly not being removed - every game that appears on gamepass can be bought day 1 independently of gamepass. I personally find the value and games available on gamepass to be incredible and not at all worthy of the disdain you hold for it.
Physical isn’t going to die - movies and music still have physical releases and they’ve had streaming services far longer than games have. It will end up being much less popular than it was before, and when that happens it’s because people find it more useful to have digital games than physical ones.
I doYou mean like remastering a game twice in less than 7 years effort?
Lol even with out Gamepass the push to digital was happening because people are lazy. They rather click a few buttons get a game than drive to the store. Or have to get off the couch to change a disc. You dont seem to angry over the discless PS5.
Seeing that damn Series S ad just now just ... lol
They tried the "release good games, sell consoles" approach Sony and Nintendo have been successful at for years, and it didn't win them the gen. So what did they do? They switched their entire focus to "services" and "value". Not games. Services.
They don't give a damn about advancing the medium we love. That ship seems to have sailed. It does not seem important to them anymore.
Poor studio management, entire calendar years without first party releases. Not investing in new IP, same promises every year, telling us to wait.
They make stupid fucking decisions:
They show up to a gameshow with 103 million viewers with a Gamepass Ad. Not a single update on a single game. Some of these games were announced in 2019.
- Money hatting The Mid instead Silent Hill 2 (same devs).
- Turning down Spider-Man as an exclusive on their platform.
- Spending 100 million dollars on 1 year of Tomb Raider exclusivity. Sony bought Insomniac for 200 million. Be smarter.
They push the Series S (an underpowered budget console that, despite whatever Kool-Aid some Indie Studio head tells you to drink, will be responsible for limiting the potential of multiplat games for an entire generation) more than the Series X.
Phil's strategy is to literally buy out publishers, then put their most popular games on every. single. platform. From literal goddamn TV apps, to mobile, to weak machines like the Nintendo Switch.
If it was up to MS, they would buy Take 2, then require all GTA games to release on the Switch moving forward- Scaled down and downgraded to hell. Ambition and fidelity across all platforms would have to be limited. But hey, it sells, and gives gamers "options". Who fucking cares. Make a mindblowing product and sell it to its target audience. If you need to reach a more casual, younger audience... then invest in NEW IP.
Alright, Gamepass.
I'm not even going to mention much about this abomination. I'm going to let Matt Damon do the talking. Watch this clip.
Why Matt Damon thinks CINEMA is DYING #shorts
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Theres a cost for everything. You have to be blind or naive to not see the parallels between what is happening in Hollywood and what will happen with Gamepass.
Just replace those DVD's with games (and people no longer buying them because of Gamepass) and replace those types of movies he's referring to with: Quality AAA titles, new AAA IP, experimental AAA titles, etc. If the "Netflix of Games" becomes a reality, then studios will NOT see the need to, or be brave enough to green light certain games. Point blank. You are already seeing gamers complain about paying $70 for games. It will get worse as the gamepass model contiunes to grow. You can kiss your Hollywood Blockbuster AAA style games goodbye.
It seems Microsoft, especially as of late, has switched their focus entirely. What was once "make great games, sell them, invest in new IP to reach new audiences" approach is now a "make every single game playable everywhere, for free, regardless of quality."
This approach will hold the medium back. It will stagnant creativity, growth. Tech won't stop advancing, but NO ONE will be utilizing said tech to its full potential. Advancements in games will be hard to notice, devs will have to scale back their visions - All to make kids, casual gamers who keep FIFA, Madden and COD #1 for all of eternity happy while you and I play second fiddle and get fed sloppy seconds.
Phil needs to go.
Seeing that damn Series S ad just now just ... lol
They tried the "release good games, sell consoles" approach Sony and Nintendo have been successful at for years, and it didn't win them the gen. So what did they do? They switched their entire focus to "services" and "value". Not games. Services.
They don't give a damn about advancing the medium we love. That ship seems to have sailed. It does not seem important to them anymore.
Poor studio management, entire calendar years without first party releases. Not investing in new IP, same promises every year, telling us to wait.
They make stupid fucking decisions:
They show up to a gameshow with 103 million viewers with a Gamepass Ad. Not a single update on a single game. Some of these games were announced in 2019.
- Money hatting The Mid instead Silent Hill 2 (same devs).
- Turning down Spider-Man as an exclusive on their platform.
- Spending 100 million dollars on 1 year of Tomb Raider exclusivity. Sony bought Insomniac for 200 million. Be smarter.
They push the Series S (an underpowered budget console that, despite whatever Kool-Aid some Indie Studio head tells you to drink, will be responsible for limiting the potential of multiplat games for an entire generation) more than the Series X.
Phil's strategy is to literally buy out publishers, then put their most popular games on every. single. platform. From literal goddamn TV apps, to mobile, to weak machines like the Nintendo Switch.
If it was up to MS, they would buy Take 2, then require all GTA games to release on the Switch moving forward- Scaled down and downgraded to hell. Ambition and fidelity across all platforms would have to be limited. But hey, it sells, and gives gamers "options". Who fucking cares. Make a mindblowing product and sell it to its target audience. If you need to reach a more casual, younger audience... then invest in NEW IP.
Alright, Gamepass.
I'm not even going to mention much about this abomination. I'm going to let Matt Damon do the talking. Watch this clip.
Why Matt Damon thinks CINEMA is DYING #shorts
Have a short screenplay you wish to turn into a film or get feedback on from Oscar winning screenwriters? Submit it to our shorts competition: https://writer...youtube.com
Theres a cost for everything. You have to be blind or naive to not see the parallels between what is happening in Hollywood and what will happen with Gamepass.
Just replace those DVD's with games (and people no longer buying them because of Gamepass) and replace those types of movies he's referring to with: Quality AAA titles, new AAA IP, experimental AAA titles, etc. If the "Netflix of Games" becomes a reality, then studios will NOT see the need to, or be brave enough to green light certain games. Point blank. You are already seeing gamers complain about paying $70 for games. It will get worse as the gamepass model contiunes to grow. You can kiss your Hollywood Blockbuster AAA style games goodbye.
It seems Microsoft, especially as of late, has switched their focus entirely. What was once "make great games, sell them, invest in new IP to reach new audiences" approach is now a "make every single game playable everywhere, for free, regardless of quality."
This approach will hold the medium back. It will stagnant creativity, growth. Tech won't stop advancing, but NO ONE will be utilizing said tech to its full potential. Advancements in games will be hard to notice, devs will have to scale back their visions - All to make kids, casual gamers who keep FIFA, Madden and COD #1 for all of eternity happy while you and I play second fiddle and get fed sloppy seconds.
Phil needs to go.
That was my first thought when I read the OP for this thread but it's not surprising lately. I got a most of posts my deleted and thread-banned in the Activision Deal OT allegedly for console-warring, and I guarantee nothing I posted was vaguely the magnitude of a console-war rant as this thread.I got warned for trolling and my post deleted for saying most of playstations games in 2023 are also on xbox yet this thread still exists?
Games are toy products that exist to take your money. Companies involved are not your childhood best friend or worthy of your delusional highbrow retard devotion, as they push new business models.
"MiCrOsOfT dOeSn'T cArE"
Go outside and touch grass. Air the stink off of yourself.
That’s true - I’ve no interest in VR but can’t deny Playstation are the leading gaming companies pushing it forward. If it works out they’ll be well ahead of the competition and kudos to them for bringing that technology more mainstream.You can easily make an argument that Sony are attempting to push things forward; PSVR/PSVR2 show real commitment to an area that neither of its console competitors are currently touching.
That's just a fact. And even if (like me) VR isn't your wheelhouse, it deserves credit.
No company cares about their customers aside of their money. Everything you see is BR to make it seem like they care about you.Games are toy products that exist to take your money. Companies involved are not your childhood best friend or worthy of your delusional highbrow retard devotion, as they push new business models.
"MiCrOsOfT dOeSn'T cArE"
Go outside and touch grass. Air the stink off of yourself.
Halo Infinite was a prime example how to destroy a franchise. Microsoft just lacks the expertise how to make a good videogame. Just looking at their output from the last 10 years should tell you everything.
Did we really need another anti xbox thread? Don't you get tired of this shit!
I can see that, and they have every reason to tbh.This is how most PC gamers feel about console folks in general though .
such as?
They will pull out only from hardware......gamepass & cloud will stay.No. Just, no! What on earth makes you guys think if the ABK merger doesn't go through, they will suddenly pull out of the gaming sphere in any way? If anything, they'll go even harder for more developers. They've invested billions in studios and devs (23 studios so far) they've invested heavily in hardware, subscriptions, cloud etc. They aren't going to just pull out. Not a chance.
Is this the same Microsoft that turned down GTA as an exclusive and tried to buy Nintendo? Tone deaf.
You said ‘nobody was asking for Spider-Man games’. You’re also the one complaining about;
Why do people love to circle jerk and take what other people said out of context to drag the conversation down to a level where they can respond to a statement after its misrepresented?
Looks like that’s exactly what you’ve just done yourself?
Sony + Nintendo combined lost to mobile in Japan.
Hey! I was just wondering... weren't you supposed to leave NeoGAF? I remember you made that glorious thread a while back, yet I still see you here.You need to go with this hot garbage thread
Hey! I was just wondering... weren't you supposed to leave NeoGAF? I remember you made that glorious thread a while back, yet I still see you here.
you are denying yourself a great enjoyment.Can’t bring myself to sit in front of a big screen and play Vampire survivors.