It is a matter of perspective whether or not the market was "inflated" leading up to the 2008 financial crisis. Some economists argue that there were signs of a housing bubble and easy credit conditions that contributed to the crisis, while others argue that the crisis was caused by a combination of factors such as lax regulation and systemic risk in the financial system. It is also worth noting that the current economic and market conditions are different from those leading up to the 2008 crisis, and it is difficult to predict how events may unfold in the future.
I was talking about current year when people say the market was inflated. No, it was not. It was a confident market to a roaring economy. My comments about the two timelines were just me being cheeky as who the players are with the timings/policy/recession/inflation.
You don't really understand Europe.If the deal fails the market will short the shit out of Microsoft's stock price.GHG is better placed to give you an idea of levels the price will retreat to. But I believe it will plummet and plummet quickly. I'm talking the moment the news of the failed acquisition breaks.
The SP will also fall on the news that the EU and CMA sue to block the deal.
I think the EU noise is to keep the franchises like COD on other platforms. Whether that's from divestiture or from a proposed remedy we have yet to find out. I'm doubtful they will kill the deal.
I also thought that before FTC sued to Block. Those organizations talk with each others, especially EU & USA. They even have a pack.
Well consumer protection wasn't exactly prevalent in the FTC's arguments and even the EC wasn't foolish enough to argue that Nintendo isn't part of the market so I'm not sure how closely the organizations are collaborating. I think it's pretty hard to argue that the third place competitor is now suddenly a harm to the market. Especially when they are offering their biggest future IP to the other companies.
That's not a guarantee, Microsoft can't be trusted & EC isn't stupid.
But you're not wrong.
Consider the market conditions at the time for that stock. They were not in a position to negotiate. Suicide and the most egregious work conditions that made the state legislators, governor, and senators step in. The stock price didn't just fall. It plummeted at break neck speed.
Overpaying during negotiations to secure an acquisition is not unheard of. However, over paying by 28+ Billion is. At least that's what the market and every accompanying article written at that time was focused on. They had zero interest in gaming beyond results and as a whole, the wider market went into research mode to explain that type of over payment.
Your posts, and I'm talking the ones you haven't copied and pasted from resetera or hoe law, always read extremely juvenile. The topic is over paying and in your mind proving the point I'm making, is some type of win.
Sit down somewhere when grown folk are talking fey
Yeah, I keep my kids locked in the basement. Never know what MS are up to.
You forgot to mention the CMA too. And how on earth would you know what the EC thinks outside of its preliminary findings that the deal would harm competition and launching an in-depth investigation?
I don't think anybody is disputing that. So is my house, but when somebody overpays by $28B all cash it's clear that smaller amounts of money are almost inconsequential to them.
There isn’t single global corporation that you can trust. Pointing out ms just because it is just trolling.
The topic is about MS/Activision.
The EC made the right call including Nintendo in the industry like normal. There is no evidence that MS hasn't honored any and all agreements they have been party to, even the agreements made prior to acquisitions.
What about the CMA? They made the same mistakes the FTC did showing their ignorance of the market as well. There was no way this deal wouldn't have been scrutinized. At least the CMA's phase two review appears at least be more thoughtful than phase one. I made no claim about the EC's conclusions other than at least they were wise enough to not exclude Nintendo from the market.
Consumer protection should be the primary focus of any business regulator. FTC focus on things that have nothing to do with that is one of the many issues with their arguments.
Nvidia like Google needs to offer a more compelling product. If they want access to MS titles they should ask Valve how they convinced MS to put their titles on Steam. MS puts their IP on competing services regularly.Nvidia is the more interesting factor in this whole deal.
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It's not fair to say that the FTC only cares about consumer protection. They're also there to make sure businesses aren't using unfair or deceptive practices. That includes looking at big deals like the potential Microsoft-ZeniMax Media merger, to see if it could lead to a monopoly or harm competition. Just because Microsoft isn't the biggest player in the gaming industry, doesn't mean they can't hurt consumers if they're able to limit choices and raise prices. And just because other companies like Nintendo and Sony are still around, doesn't mean they're immune to the effects of a big merger like this. Sure, other countries may have come to different conclusions, but each case is different and should be looked at on its own merits
25m but it counts all 3 tiers (free, priority and ultimate)
And they combine all their tiers, even non paying silver accounts when they flex on numbers as well.
Microsoft lied to EC, as noted by FTC & CMA already.
It's basically dead unless both EU & UK somehow approve this.
I don’t know at this point anymore, all I know is that since the deal was announced it’s sounding less and less like a certainty. The biggest factor being the FTC actively trying to block it, because if my gut feeling correct the EU will be even more critical regarding the further implications of the deal.
They will approve.
I don't recall saying they should ONLY care about consumer protection I said it should be their primary concern seeing how everyday citizens can do little about companies raising prices astronomical amounts or taking away purchasing options.
You are wildly misinformed. MS has honored every video game contract they've entered into. The onus is on the accuser to prove the lying allegation and the FTC doesn't have a leg to stand on.
That's what you believe. You think the CMA and FTC are ignorant, others don't. I'm saying what makes you believe the EC don't consider market segments too when they investigate? I think the EC are less likely to challenge due to marketshare but it doesn't mean they don't consider market segments.
I can't believe the ridiculousness of this statement. You think Valve had to convince MS to put their titles on steam? It's there because the players are there and those players didn't care about the Windows store. It's not that MS didn't try to exclude steam. They did. MS tried going Windows Store exclusive for a long time then saw its games weren't selling at all there.
Nvidia mesed around the corner.
You are ignoring the fact that nvidia are the ones who are benefiting from this, and not the developers.
You'd be an idiot to skip up on cod, which is among one of the most sold annual franchises every year.
