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Hogwarts Legacy | Review Thread

NeoIkaruGAF

Gold Member
Jesus Christ people this isn't a damn thread about ResetEra and their moderation policies. Good lord.

. . . isn't the fact that this is a good Harry Potter game - hell by all accounts a good game period - enough to drive discussion without bringing up other forums to dunk on for "reaction farming?"
Why Dont We Have Both GIF
 

Gideon

Member
This is genuinely going to be a LOT of peoples GOAT game.

Not to mention, the castle is created, the map is huge, the lore is unimaginable and the potential income is infinite.

We’re going to be getting some serious DLC here, the inevitable Quidditch addition, house based extra storylines and good lord in heaven we are definitely going to be getting a sequel.

This is the first addition in a series that has every single attribute to be the highest selling series of the generation.

Harry Potter sold more books than any book ever written, it probably has the biggest fanbase on the planet, and its audience is at the absolute peak of both spending ability and interest in gaming.

The Hogwarts series will be second only to GTA, within 10 years.

Expecto fucking Sales, boys.
Nah, I feel like this game will sell amazingly well but it won't enter the top 20 most sold games of all time let alone top 10 I think.
 
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Punished Miku

Gold Member
I tend to be charitable to people and their intentions. I think they think they are doing what’s best for others and their community. But their ability to be nuanced in their approach is non existent.
You're looking at just an idealized version of what they say. Look at their demeanor and their actions, and then you can speculate on the psychology behind that. Their actions are all negative. Their demeanor is always controlling and bullying, while also being so fragile that they can't even handle normal range of opinions - basically totally detached from normal conversation in reality. I've never seen any hint of the slightest bit of charity or intent to do good. You'd think you could tolerate normal conversation if you're a well meaning person just out to help people. Trust me, they are not deserving of charity. They're probably going to spend all their energy over the next week or two trying to cancel people for doing their job and covering a game, while also secretly playing the game themselves in private.
 
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jaysius

Banned
The Ree people probably also ended the AI generated Seinfeld on twitch called watchmeforever as it accidentally told a transphobic joke.

It's a busy day for those people.

Good to see the game got a fair shake though in the review scores, even got the typical padding from the usual suspects.
 

Topher

Gold Member
The Ree people probably also ended the AI generated Seinfeld on twitch called watchmeforever as it accidentally told a transphobic joke.

It's a busy day for those people.

Good to see the game got a fair shake though in the review scores, even got the typical padding from the usual suspects.

What "typical padding"?
 

Baki

Member
Exactly. I think JK is a bigot and a pretty terrible person, but I'm also interested in this game not because of her, but because of the talent at the studio and an interesting world to explore. If Era as a platform wants to keep it out of their forums, fair enough, they are perfectly within their rights to do so. It doesn't make them "fascists" and I even understand why they want to. That's their decision to make.

What I don't like is people being shamed if they want to play it. ALL of our entertainment, be it the creators who make them or even the devices we use to play them on, have some sort of black mark in the chain of it entering our lives. Just using modern phones requires looking the other way with how they are made and whatnot, and I'm sure these same "shamers" are looking the other way while they post on twitter using said phones.

With all that said, congrats to the Avalanche Software. It seems like you made a really good game. I look forward to playing it tonight!

I agree, I think it's unfair to "shame" people that want to buy the game, as JK has a very weak link to the game and the actual game has content that is trans inclusionary. I also think this method of "shaming" is counter productive to the cause.

Now the boycott, that seems to be catching some mainstream attention and well within the right to advocate for their cause through a constructive boycott.

I do feel like the dev team got caught in the middle of all this. When they began working on the game in 2017, no one was aware of JK's beliefs, and despite JK non-involvement, it's being painted as the opposite.
 

Topher

Gold Member
Most of this thread is about the boycott than about the actual game reviews. It's a little exhausting. People are well within their right to boycott based on the support JK has provided to anti-trans causes.

Anyone can boycott any game for any reason. And then there is banning others who actually want to have a discussion about the game. Big difference in exercising your right and imposing your opinion on others.
 

Baki

Member
Jesus Christ people this isn't a damn thread about ResetEra and their moderation policies. Good lord.

. . . isn't the fact that this is a good Harry Potter game - hell by all accounts a good game period - enough to drive discussion without bringing up other forums to dunk on for "reaction farming?"

+1

Game looks solid. I wonder what the Switch version will be like.
 

Baki

Member
Anyone can boycott any game for any reason. And then there is banning others who actually want to have a discussion about the game. Big difference in exercising your right and imposing your opinion on others.

Era can decide it's moderation policies and people can decide if they want to stay in a community with such strict moderating policy. This is the same site that has people complain about multi-millionaire owners stiffing employees but then had the owner of ERA sell the company for $4.5M but not give a dime to the volunteer mods who kept the site running. If people want to stay in a community with hypocritical owners, that is their prerogative.

Back on topic, did the review mention what this game would be like for a non HP fan?
 
Most of this thread is about the boycott than about the actual game reviews. It's a little exhausting. People are well within their right to boycott based on the support JK has provided to anti-trans causes. People are also well within their right to buy, play and support this game, because the game has very little connection to JK, the actual content of the game is actually supportive of HP fans that are trans and the success of this game will likely have no bearing on JK actions as she's already incredibly wealthy. We're not even sure if she's getting royalties from this game, when it's quite possible she just received an upfront payment for the license.
People here are taking their victory lap...people opposed to buying would be if it reviewed poorly...both sides are silly to me, the ones who are celebrating for it specifically to "own the soys" are more silly since they aren't really taking a position other than making someone mad. But the game being good helps...this forum is one of the more pro "hogwarts legacy" groups and give its history with the other forum I'm guessing many see it as a victory on multiple levels...game looks good, pre ordered upgraded to delux...is the victory lap silly? Yea but it won't last forever, the game will be talked about in peoples hands. I hope the OT is more on topic when it comes to the actual game.
 
Era can decide it's moderation policies and people can decide if they want to stay in a community with such strict moderating policy. This is the same site that has people complain about multi-millionaire owners stiffing employees but then had the owner of ERA sell the company for $4.5M but not give a dime to the volunteer mods who kept the site running. If people want to stay in a community with hypocritical owners, that is their prerogative.

Back on topic, did the review mention what this game would be like for a non HP fan?
Do you generally like open world games?
 

Topher

Gold Member
Era can decide it's moderation policies and people can decide if they want to stay in a community with such strict moderating policy. This is the same site that has people complain about multi-millionaire owners stiffing employees but then had the owner of ERA sell the company for $4.5M but not give a dime to the volunteer mods who kept the site running. If people want to stay in a community with hypocritical owners, that is their prerogative.

Sure. And I can call them fascist idiots for it as well. That's my prerogative.
 

Kataploom

Gold Member
I’m not interested in this game but my wife (who is a complete non-gamer) wants to check this out since she loves Harry Potter. I don’t really want to get it for PS5 and have her wanting to use the system all the time.

Hopefully the Switch version runs ok lol.
Why not get it for ps5 and you look for something else to play on switch while she's done? I'd do so
 
I don't think Era's moderation decision on this game should in anyway shape perception towards those who clearly feel offended by JK Rowling and her work. The fact that some are passionate about this -- whether or not you agree/understand that stance -- should signal that there is a moral argument here. This may be a 'trans-rights' issue on the surface, but many here, who are a minority in their own regard (whether it be religious, political etc) have felt unheard, and ignored at some point in their lives.

There are more important things in life than video games. There are people out there who are hurting about this - we should take a moment to reflect on that; to acknowledge that. They have chosen to take a stand. Let them. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it, other than perhaps being an inconvenience to you.

For me, I am looking at purchasing the game because I am a fan. Having said that, I am able to recognise the above.
 
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Yes, I love Ghost of Tsushima (excellent combat), Horizon (great story) and Red Dead. I also enjoyed the GBA Harry Potter games.
If you enjoy exploration this game is probably for you...one consistency I see is how amazing the world is to explore and get lost in.
 
Complete disagreement. And I have receipts from the dictionary.

“a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control”

Banning all discussion of the biggest game in months, and possibly of 2023. Possibly going to ban sales threads since the game will be top of charts.

How much more dictatorial control do we need to see Before the shoe fits?
They're a private company operating a forum. You've lost it...
 

Baki

Member
I don't think Era's moderation decision on this game should in anyway shape perception towards those who clearly feel offended by JK Rowling and her work. The fact that some are passionate about this -- whether or not you agree/understand that stance -- should signal that there is a moral argument here. This may be a 'trans-rights' issue on the surface, but many here, who are a minority in their own regard (whether it be religious, political etc) have felt unheard, and ignored at some point in their lives.

There are more important things in life than video games. There are people out there who are hurting about this - we should take a moment to reflect on that; to acknowledge that. They have chosen to take a stand. Let them. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it, other than perhaps being an inconvenience to you.
Agreed. I would add, it's not an inconvenience at all to people on this site. It's inconvenient to WB but they'll be fine, this game is likely to sell 10s of millions of copies.
 

Certinty

Member
Can’t say I expected this at all. I thought 75 max.

Saying that, couldn’t be more happy for the devs. Toy Story 3 was amazing and the Disney Infinity games were fun.
 
I appreciate being propped up like a master wordsmith. But I have to decline the award. You see, I did not actually write the dictionary.
I mean, you're well within your rights to think they're "fascists" even though you probably know that definition isn't in reference to a private company maintaining their own rules, but I'm also well within my right to think all that kind of talk is beyond silly and ridiculous. But you know what, have at it, man. If stretching the definition to the point of hyperbole makes you happy, go for it.
 
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I'm thinking of breaking my 'no full price games ever at $70 rule' - my wife loves Harry Potter, the game looks decent, and it's important to end cancel culture. I feel like the more people support this, the more disillusioned "they" will become.

I'm not an evangelical, pro Trump, right wing, anti-trans, anti-woke (still not sure what that is tbh) lunatic, I'm just what used to be considered a normal person who is absolutely anti-force me to take a certain position on something, and absolutely pro your right to say what you believe, even if I disagree. Even if it offends me (which it doesn't) because it's okay to be offended, you won't die. I'd even say it's important to be offended every once in a while, it shows you are still paying attention.

I have never been able to figure out what JK Rowling said that wasn't common sense - she is not someone I am particularly a fan of as a writer but what she said, at least in a well adjusted society, was nowhere close to being worth the bile and fury it provoked.

Trying to figure out if that's worth enough for me to spend $70 :messenger_beaming:
 
I'm not wasting anymore time nor energy being concerned about that lot and what they think about the game.

I'm a Harry Potter fan who has been dreaming of getting a great new game to play and it is now only a few days away! I'm excited to play and I'll be playing the shit out of it and having a blast

I honestly pity them for being so full of anger and hatred. Hopefully they can find some happiness that doesn't involve being complete assholes to others.
 

Topher

Gold Member
I don't think Era's moderation decision on this game should in anyway shape perception towards those who clearly feel offended by JK Rowling and her work. The fact that some are passionate about this -- whether or not you agree/understand that stance -- should signal that there is a moral argument here. This may be a 'trans-rights' issue on the surface, but many here, who are a minority in their own regard (whether it be religious, political etc) have felt unheard, and ignored at some point in their lives.

There are more important things in life than video games. There are people out there who are hurting about this - we should take a moment to reflect on that; to acknowledge that. They have chosen to take a stand. Let them. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it, other than perhaps being an inconvenience to you.

Pretty ironic to defend silencing those who want to talk about the game and then make reference to those who "felt unheard" in the same post. Ultimately, you are right that life is more important than a video game. But.....this is just a video game. It isn't life.
 
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