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[Punished Miku]

However looking at how they define monopolies a natural monopoly is fine. As long as that company isn't controlling the market in a way that hinders competition.

Thank god we never see this kind of behavior from top players in the market.

 

[Snowdonhoffen]

"Hey regulators, please take away call of duty from playstation to force them to buy an hardware they didn't chose to buy in the first place"

Lol, I wonder if one of the regulators has ever told MS something like:
"Okay, let me get this straight. You are one of the richest companies in the entire world, you own 2 big publishers, you have 20+ studios, you have a lot of classic and successful IPs, and we're not even counting the second and third party deals you make, and you're telling me you need to acquire another publisher with more classic and successful IPs just to be able compete?"

 

[MasterCornholio]

Thank god we never see this kind of behavior from top players in the market.

Why yes we haven't. There's nothing wrong with a market leader existing. It's that way in all markets.

 

[adamosmaki]

yeah no shit. Ps5 was next to impossible to buy in EU for a couple of years and even now is not completely normal with places like amazon still not have PS5 at stock regularly

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Return of the (PS) King

 

[DeepEnigma]

MS is the monopoly right? Just checking, I get confused.

They want to be. But consumers choose otherwise.

They are in the PC OS space.

 

[Punished Miku]

Why yes we haven't. There's nothing wrong with a market leader existing. It's that way in all markets.

I'm also pro-existence. We agree.

 

[alphachino]

No console wars, but does this console EVER have any fucking good news?

It's always "wait for next year", game cancelled, sales down 300%, 900p, etc.

They've been in this thing for 20 years now ffs.

Yep. I gave Xbox a chance again at the beginning of the generation. I bought an XSS, XSX, elite controller and GPU for 3+ years. I soon realised that the whole ecosystem is a dumpster fire and got rid of the Xboxes and bought a PC instead.

 

[Spitfire098]

For getting that deal closed? Absolutely! Xbox will be fine. It has plenty of high-quality games on the way, and the stock situation for Series X especially will improve. Till then it doesn't exactly hurt to look weaker while your other competitors, particularly your direct console competitor, are surging in all the most relevant markets.

 

[GHG]

Thank god we never see this kind of behavior from top players in the market.

Considering I know what you're attempting to imply here, it's deeply ironic.

 

[MasterCornholio]

I'm also pro-existence. We agree.

Currently the market is in a good state. I don't believe either of the three are in danger of disappearing.

 

[Interfectum]

Thank god we never see this kind of behavior from top players in the market.

Timed exclusive contracts has been in gaming for a long time.

What hasn't been in gaming is giving away brand new AAA games for pennies or buying publishers for $70 billion because you know your competition can't do the same thing. It's why MS said their true competition is Google, Amazon (and Apple) instead of 'tiny' companies like Sony and Nintendo.

 

[Punished Miku]

Timed exclusive contracts has been in gaming for a long time.

What hasn't been in gaming is giving away brand new AAA games for pennies or buying publishers for $70 billion because you know your competition can't do the same thing. It's why MS said their true competition is Google, Amazon (and Apple) instead of 'tiny' companies like Sony and Nintendo.

It's true. Luckily we have consumer agencies ready to prevent us from getting games too cheaply.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Timed exclusive contracts has been in gaming for a long time.

Plus its something that anyone can participate in and all three have. Regulators don't have any issues with this since company's can be competitive with these deals.

It's true. Luckily we have consumer agencies ready to prevent us from getting games too cheaply.

I wouldn't say consumer agencies but not all developers can afford to release their games day one on a subscription service. They simply don't have the financial backing to do so. They rely on the revenue from day one sales to cover things like development costs. It's not a realistic option for many developers.

 

[tmlDan]

The quarterly reports are gonna be a bloodbath, brace for impact gaf

 

[SLB1904]

It's true. Luckily we have consumer agencies ready to prevent us from getting games too cheaply.

Why do you expect quality for cheap?

 

[baphomet]

That's kinda what happens when you go an entire year without releasing any AAA content.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Uncle Jim paying all his credit cards and personal loans from Bank of America as we speak.

 

[Punished Miku]

Why do you expect quality for cheap?

$80 games? Why not. I put more money in, and more quality comes out. Might as well round it up to $100 honestly.

 

[Kokoloko85]

People actually were trying to say PS5 numbers werent effected by stock issues…. Even the Japan sales have gone up

 

[Tomi]

What is happening with xbox lol

 

[MasterCornholio]

Why do you expect quality for cheap?

Honestly I hope nobody expects all games to be cheap. The industry would collapse if people had that mentality. Both subscription services and full priced games can coexist.

 

[Maxwell Jacob Friedman]

Any non-warring reason for the 30% drop? Is that historically normal?

They dont have exclusive content this no reason to own the system. Speaks wide about what having games for a games console actually means

 

[Interfectum]

$80 games? Why not. I put more money in, and more quality comes out. Might as well round it up to $100 honestly.

App Store users many years ago: $10 for a phone game? lol nah.

Look where we are now.

 

[Elios83]

At this rate Xbox will lose a 4m ground against PS5 worldwide just between January and March, what usually is a slow period. They have been super lucky that PS5 was supply constrained in the first two years but that's over.
With FFXVI, Spiderman 2 and a possible Slim model demand this year will remain incredibly high.

 

[Raonak]

That's what happens when you decide to not release any games.

 

[xiskza]

Not too surprising, last year was a disaster for Sony in EU

 

[ungalo]

They had it coming with their disastrous first two years. And this two consoles strategy isn't going to do anything good for them in the long run in terms of production and re-design, especially when they sell this low. And i'm not even going to talk about third party support...

Starfield can be a very good game it's not going to turn any table by itself.

 

[Interfectum]

At this rate Xbox will lose a 4m ground against PS5 worldwide just between January and March, what usually is a slow period. They have been super lucky that PS5 was supplied constrained in the first two years but that's over.
With FFXVI, Spiderman 2 and a possible Slim model demand this year will remain incredibly high.

Sony playing it smart with the slim model... between it and Spiderman 2 it might as well be a PS5 re-launch with many current PS5 owners getting the new one too. They gonna have a good year.

 

[GHG]

It's true. Luckily we have consumer agencies ready to prevent us from getting games too cheaply.

No, they are preventing people who are short sighted from having to suffer a huge Phil Spencer shaped dildo (sorry adamsapple ) being shoved up their arses in a couple of years if they manage to get control of the industry through predatory and monopolistic practices.

Also, they've already been clear, gamepass is not and can not be a factor. They cannot force Microsoft to make sure it's still available in the future on the same terms that it is today. Pair that with the fact that they have made an admission it is canibalizing their business in other areas and you have a very clear sense of where this is all going.

Do you honestly think they're going to subsidise your gaming addiction forever?

 

[Maxwell Jacob Friedman]

the best chance for Xbox was the first two years to come out swinging with some good games, now that the ps5 supply issues are over it has no chance.

Yep its like coming out knowing your fighter in winded, you dont lay off, you push the gas down and lay it all on the line. Now thats sony has caught its breath, they are in trouble

 

[MasterCornholio]

$80 games? Why not. I put more money in, and more quality comes out. Might as well round it up to $100 honestly.

That's incorrect. However some devs can't afford to sell their games for only 10$. It's why the higher price points exist. There's always the option to buy used or wait for a sale if the launch MSRP is too high for you.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Do you honestly think they're going to subsidise your gaming addiction forever?

People thinking way too short term, and learning nothing from similar models.

 

[Valkyria]

$80 games? Why not. I put more money in, and more quality comes out. Might as well round it up to $100 honestly.

Holly molly meltdown we are having here.

I know your game but for future reference:

The market decides that Sony it's way better than Microsoft. Ms takes more money than Xbox has ever created and tries to buy on the the biggest 3rd party publisher in order to hinder Everyone else beside Xbox to try to compete. Regulators see what it's going on, and not being console warrior as yourself, they see that getting all of that will increase in less power on the consumers, and in the end higher prices.

Now you can continue with your concerned drivel.

 

[Gobjuduck]

No console wars, but does this console EVER have any fucking good news?

It's always "wait for next year", game cancelled, sales down 300%, 900p, etc.

They've been in this thing for 20 years now ffs.

Sony fans are really good at pointing out and echoing Xbox’s failures. Neogaf is a bit of an echochamber that prefers Sony.

Xbox has had good news this gen.
Like forza horizon making record sales. Minecraft is continuing to be a phenomenon under Microsoft. Hardware sales were breaking records in foreign markets. Acquiring Bethesda was huge. Once they get Activision it will be an even bigger deal.

2022 was a bad year, similar to some of the Xbox one years. 2023 is important because of starfield, forza Motorsport and the Activision deal. If all three of those land, Xbox will be in a much better state.

The Activision/Blizzard deal has put Xbox in some sort of limbo. The deal is expected to go through in may, and then they will have their showcase. The brand will be in a much stronger state after we see fable, contraband, perfect dark, hellblade, gears 6, avowed and more.

 

[Lyrical]

I haven’t played much on my series X since Forza horizon 5 (brilliant game btw). I at the point where I probably won’t even renew GP.

Maybe people just like what PS has to offer?

 

[Punished Miku]

No, they are preventing people who are short sighted from having to suffer a huge Phil Spencer shaped dildo (sorry adamsapple ) being shoved up their arses in a couple of years if they manage to get control of the industry through predatory and monopolistic practices.

Also, they've already been clear, gamepass is not and can not be a factor. They cannot force Microsoft to make sure it's still available in the future on the same terms that it is today. Pair that with the fact that they have made an admission it is canibalizing their business in other areas and you have a very clear sense of where this is all going.

Do you honestly think they're going to subsidise your gaming addiction forever?

Trust me, I couldn't agree more. If you take that 30% decline from MS this year and map it out into the future, MS would basically control the entire industry in 10 years. We'd all be helpless underneath their iron grip dildo.

I'm in agreement with you guys; I don't want a future of being addicted to dildo. Whatever it takes to protect PS and our orifices.

 

[Sanepar]

I think at this point consumers don't believe more on Xbox PR BS and want to see the great AAA games they promise but still missing.

 

[LordCBH]

Any non-warring reason for the 30% drop? Is that historically normal?

Lack of high profile games will do that.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Trust me, I couldn't agree more. If you take that 30% decline from MS this year and map it out into the future, MS would basically control the entire industry in 10 years. We'd all be helpless underneath their iron grip dildo.

I'm in agreement with you guys; I don't want a future of being addicted to dildo. Whatever it takes to protect PS and our orifices.

*looks at graph*

So you want a future that's a race to the bottom? In turn causing developers and studios to fold, IPs to stagnate, investments to squander, etc., etc..

 

[Maxwell Jacob Friedman]

At this rate Xbox will lose a 4m ground against PS5 worldwide just between January and March, what usually is a slow period. They have been super lucky that PS5 was supplied constrained in the first two years but that's over.
With FFXVI, Spiderman 2 and a possible Slim model demand this year will remain incredibly high.

Spider-Man 2 alone will undo any sales Starfield brings when it releases this year. The fact they still have FFXVI, the eventual FFVII Remake Rebirth soon etc is just icing on the cake

 

[Punished Miku]

*looks at graph*

So you want a future that's a race to the bottom? In turn causing developers and studios to fold, IPs to stagnate, investments to squander, etc., etc..

I'm in support of $100 games and blocking the MS monopoly.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

I'm in support of $100 games and blocking the MS monopoly.

Jesus. All this news lately has real done a number on you.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

I think at this point consumers don't believe more on Xbox PR BS and want to see the great AAA games they promise but still missing.

Nothing is worse for a company than to burnout their most loyal fanbase...xbox already did this once.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Trust me, I couldn't agree more. If you take that 30% decline from MS this year and map it out into the future, MS would basically control the entire industry in 10 years. We'd all be helpless underneath their iron grip dildo.

I'm in agreement with you guys; I don't want a future of being addicted to dildo. Whatever it takes to protect PS and our orifices.

This is getting ridiculous.

Just calm down and maybe don't visit these threads for a while. Its not worth getting worked up over this.

 

[SLB1904]

$80 games? Why not. I put more money in, and more quality comes out. Might as well round it up to $100 honestly.

games get cheaper overtime. Its not excuse.
My point is the fact that games got more expensive to make compared to a decade ago. But take that as you will

 

[DeepEnigma]

I'm in support of $100 games and blocking the MS monopoly.

 

[Thirty7ven]

Trust me, I couldn't agree more. If you take that 30% decline from MS this year and map it out into the future, MS would basically control the entire industry in 10 years. We'd all be helpless underneath their iron grip dildo.

I'm in agreement with you guys; I don't want a future of being addicted to dildo. Whatever it takes to protect PS and our orifices.

God forbid MS has to compete on the merits of their product instead of buying the audience.

God forbid you demand that from them instead of praying for MS to buy your ass company.

 

[Gobjuduck]

Nothing is worse for a company than to burnout their most loyal fanbase.

I used to love PlayStation, but the ps3 era was so awful, I never went back to the brand. Spider-Man was close to bringing me back but I just waited for PC after the Nvidia leaks.

A lot of people feel this with xbox.

 

[Punished Miku]

God forbid MS has to compete on the merits of their product instead of buying the audience.

God forbid you demand that from them instead of praying for MS to buy your ass company.

I'm hoping the CMA breaks up Xbox Game Studios personally. Make them sell off 343 to the highest bidder. No one should have that much power in one place.