Tiago Rodrigues
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And this is just physical. Who knows how the ratio is in Japan right now for ps5The PS5 pushing hardware AND software. We love to see it.
And this is just physical. Who knows how the ratio is in Japan right now for ps5The PS5 pushing hardware AND software. We love to see it.
Did we suddenly forget the PS5 stock shortage during all this time that only just started getting better weeks ago? And you're comparing that to peak Switch sales period that had zero stock issues?Switch vs PS5 since the launch of PS5 in Japan 12th November of 2020.
Nintendo Switch - 12,271,551
PlayStation 5 - 2,886,971
PS5 absolutely destroying everything in Japan.
No PlayStation home console has sold better in the same time since the ps2.
Bonus: it's faster then the vita and Wii U also.
We're now 4 month's from the FF16 launch. Out of respect for Square Enix hopefully Sony ship huge numbers to Asia leading up to it's launch.
But OLED Switch is also supply constrained per Nintendo so does that not count?It's 4 weeks now?
And I'm absolutely calm
Just calling out the stupidity of those people who thought that when the PS5 was heavily supply constrained that was representative of actual demand.
Then it became "but it doesn't sell software! The units must go all to China and to the grey market, no japanese is actually interested in the product!". And here we go, two PS5 games in the top two positions.
Let's see how things go in the next weeks.
Let's compare the profits for both companies then.
Last 3 CY(2020-2022) profits
Nintendo - $14.5bn
SIE - $8.2bn
This is why MS needs to be able to buy the largest [western] 3rd party publisher in the world and play takeaway with their Win OS monopoly money; because they're irrelevant in Japan [eastern].
Their political stylized words, not mine.
Right, but revenue PlayStation dwarf’s Nintendo.Let's compare the profits for both companies then.
Last 3 CY(2020-2022) profits
Nintendo - $14.5bn
SIE - $8.2bn
Which is why 3rd party's and the industry loves PlayStation so much.Right, but revenue PlayStation dwarf’s Nintendo.
But OLED Switch is also supply constrained per Nintendo so does that not count?
It is not supply constrained. At all. Don't believe their lies. You can find switches everywhere. It is simply in decline at this stage and it is normal.a six year old console (which is also supply constrained)
No one said that. But if it happens I'll be pleasantly surprised. I don't want home consoles to die in Japan.a month of good PS5 sales like it’s suddenly going to sell 30 million units in Japan.
I think you are the only one that cares about that abomination. let it go...let it be.... forgotten.
Exactly, lol.It's 4 weeks now?
And I'm absolutely calm
Just calling out the stupidity of those people who thought that when the PS5 was heavily supply constrained that was representative of actual demand.
Then it became "but it doesn't sell software! The units must go all to China and to the grey market, no japanese is actually interested in the product!". And here we go, two PS5 games in the top two positions.
Let's see how things go in the next weeks.
Arent those for last week? Total says 104k in the list.[PS5] Forspoken <RPG> (Square Enix) {2023.01.24} (¥8.800) - 35.056
Right, but revenue PlayStation dwarf’s Nintendo.
*Game Pass impact(Don't report gaming segment profit)*
This is why MS needs to be able to buy the largest [western] 3rd party publisher in the world and play takeaway with their Win OS monopoly money; because they're irrelevant in Japan [eastern].
Their political stylized words, not mine.
what narratives? the Switch is like 100 years old, and several times weaker than the competitionFirst it was the hardware, now the two best selling games are PS5 games.
The narratives that some Nintendo fanboys obsessed with japanese sales wanted to believe in are basically collapsing under their feet.
You can get two Switch for the price of a PS5.It’s 4 weeks now, and that 6 years old is way cheaper than the PS5.
Part of your MS quota post?Anyone know Forspoken's LTD in Japan so far ?
Anyone know Forspoken's LTD in Japan so far ?
Asking for sales in a sales thread for a new AAA game.
It's easy to get you triggered isn't it?Let's compare the profits for both companies then.
Last 3 CY(2020-2022) profits
Nintendo - $14.5bn
SIE - $8.2bn
100 times cheaper toowhat narratives? the Switch is like 100 years old, and several times weaker than the competition
Let's combined PS4 total profits since 2013 to 2022 plus PS5 total profits vs Nintendo since Switch era in 2017Keep the same energy and post the stats for this year and next year.
It's going to be a long generation for you since its the PS5's time to shine now.
Those periods were the decline of the PS4, and the extreme shortages of PS5. Now its time for the Switch's decline.
Wonder if per post payouts were reduced after recent Microsoft job cuts. 1099 contractor with no benefits I'm guessingPart of your MS quota post?
Hogwarts Legacy isn't Forspoken despite both are wizard games.Arent those for last week? Total says 104k in the list.
We've reached the point where I don't think they give a damn. It can sell under expectation and still net them one hell of a profit.Nintendo bet on Switch being on market another year...this is going to get brutal by end if Summer for them. I guess they didn't learn from the Wii
adamsappleMeanwhile one post of many, on another site, in a thread with the same title as this one.....
Your constant slick trolling and obsession with Forspoken failing is embarrassing. Stop acting innocent.
On topic, good numbers for Hogwarts. Loving the game. PS5 beasting without constraints as well.
These two PS5 games are on top because:It's 4 weeks now?
And I'm absolutely calm
Just calling out the stupidity of those people who thought that when the PS5 was heavily supply constrained that was representative of actual demand.
Then it became "but it doesn't sell software! The units must go all to China and to the grey market, no japanese is actually interested in the product!". And here we go, two PS5 games in the top two positions.
Let's see how things go in the next weeks.
CTRL-F NPD and UK.... yep. Still cobwebs.Asking for sales of Japanese Xbox games in a Famitsu thread ?
Come on man, it's like you think I'm a troll or something.
Anyone who wasn't clearly delusional knew that once the stock issues were resolved, sales were going to be VERY different. They really wanted the PS5 to be the Wii U of Sony.First it was the hardware, now the two best selling games are PS5 games.
The narratives that some Nintendo fanboys obsessed with japanese sales wanted to believe in are basically collapsing under their feet.
PS5 has the 2 best selling physical games in Japan this week. With digital, the gap is probably bigger.Those are not great numbers for PS5 titles in Japan, though, if you consider there is supposed to be 2.xx million consoles sold in Japan.
It will be interesting to see if FF16 can crack 300k copies.
It's not about being delusional. Trends in Japan for a while now have included more emphasis on mobile, traditionally not liking gigantic physical systems, and not liking a lot of the western games that are huge sellers - including most all of Sony's 1st party output right now. I'm surprised it's selling as well as it is. Nintendo was destroying them for a while.Anyone who wasn't clearly delusional knew that once the stock issues were resolved, sales were going to be VERY different. They really wanted the PS5 to be the Wii U of Sony.
Famitsu Sales: Third Parties CY 2022 (2021 Dec 27 - 2022 Dec 25)
NSW - 37
- [NSW] Minecraft (Microsoft) - 548.415
- [[NSW] Monster Hunter Rise + Sunbreak (Capcom) - 389.582 / NEW
- [PS4] Elden Ring (From Software - 356.711 / NEW
- [NSW] Momotaro Dentetsu (Konami) - 283.433
- [NSW] Dragon Quest X Offline (Square Enix) - 252.028 / NEW
- [NSW] eBaseball Powerful Pro Baseball 2022 (Konami) - 247.866 / NEW
- [NSW] Dragon Quest Treasures (Square Enix) - 198.403 / NEW
- [NSW] Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba (Aniplex) - 178.877 / NEW
- [NSW] Touken Ranbu Warriors (EXNOA) - 146.087 / NEW
- [[NSW] Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes (Koei Tecmo) - 145.507 / NEW
- [PS5] Elden Ring (From Software) - 141.741 / NEW
- [NSW] Triangle Strategy (Square Enix) - 137.514 / NEW
- [NSW] Live A Live (Square Enix) - 132.083 / NEW
- [NSW] Taiko no Tatsujin: Rhythm Festival (Bandai Namco) - 115.251 / NEW
- [PS4] Earth Defense Force 6 (D3Publisher) - 107.786 / NEW
- [PS4] eBaseball Powerful Pro Baseball 2022 (Konami) - 107.222 / NEW
- [NSW] Human: Fall Flat (Teyon Japan) - 95.754
- [PS4] Dragon Quest X Offline (Square Enix) - 81.676 / NEW
- [NSW] Fishing Spirits 2 (Bandai Namco) - 80.024 / NEW
- [NSW] Persona 5 Royal (Atlus) - 79.683 / NEW
- [NSW] The Battle Cats Unite! (Ponos) - 78.807
- [NSW] Dragon Quest XI S (Square Enix) - 76.258
- [NSW] Taiko no Tatsujin: Drum 'n' Fun! (Bandai Namco) - 72.501
- [NSW] FIFA 23: Legacy Edition (Electronic Arts) - 64.465 / NEW
- [PS4] Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII Reunion (Square Enix) - 62.346 / NEW
- [PS5] Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII Reunion (Square Enix) - 61.400 / NEW
- [NSW] Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII Reunion (Square Enix) - 61.133 / NEW
- [NSW] Minecraft Dungeons (Microsoft) - 59.800
- [NSW] Fitness Boxing 2: Rhythm & Exercise (Imagineer) - 58.543
- [NSW] NieR: Automata (Square Enix) - 57.655 / NEW
- [NSW] SD Gundam: Battle Alliance (Bandai Namco) - 57.492 / NEW
- [NSW] Tactics Ogre: Reborn (Square Enix) - 55.082 / NEW
- [PS4] Stranger of Paradise: Final Fantasy Origin (Square Enix) - 53.557 / NEW
- [NSW] Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot (Bandai Namco) - 51.911
- [NSW] Sonic Frontiers (Sega) - 51.758 / NEW
- [NSW] Super Bomberman R (Konami) - 50.894
- [NSW] Disney Magical World 2: Enchanted Edition (Bandai Namco) - 50.718
- [NSW] Fishing Spirits (Bandai Namco) - 49.810
- [NSW] FIFA 22: Legacy Edition (Electronic Arts) - 49.025
- [NSW] 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim (Atlus) - 48.081 / NEW
- [PS4] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II (Activision) - 47.610 / NEW
- [NSW] Nobunaga's Ambition: Rebirth (Koei Tecmo) - 46.766 / NEW
- [PS4] Soul Hackers 2 (Atlus) - 46.725 / NEW
- [PS4] FIFA 23 (Electronic Arts) - 46.483 / NEW
- [PS4] Dying Light 2: Stay Human (Spike Chunsoft) - 46.346 / NEW
- [NSW] Taiko Risshiden V DX (Koei Tecmo) - 44.532 / NEW
- [PS4] The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Dark II (Nihon Falcom) - 43.900 / NEW
- [NSW] Harvestella (Square Enix) - 43.861 / NEW
- [NSW] Witch on the Holy Night (Aniplex) - 43.223 / NEW
- [NSW] Fortnite: Minty Legends Pack (Epic Games) - 43.015
PS4 - 11
PS5 - 2
TOTAL 2022: 5451340
NSW: 4.247.837 (77.9%)
PS4: 1.000.362 (18.3%)
PS5: 203.141 (3.7%)
TOTAL 2021: 9.506.095
NSW: 7.911.588 (83.2%)
PS4: 1.454.571(15.3%)
PS5: 139.936 (1.5%)
TOTAL 2020: 8.093.172
NSW: 4.381.106 (54.1%)
PS4: 3.712.066 (45.9%)
2022 was a bad year for third parties, we see that there is a huge decline YoY of 42.7% within the Top 50 titles.
Switch was worse off with a 46.3% decline YoY but only 3% down compared to 2020.
There was no big game that outperformed expectations leaving Minecraft as #1 on the physical charts, while Rise is likely the third party that shipped the most units with eshop sales likely being x1.5-2 larger than physical in 2022.
Elden Ring's big result couldn't help the PS Ecosystem as it also dropped to a new low as it went down a further 25% YoY.
This year is shaping up a lot better for third parties compared to 2022 on the Switch we have a new Momotaro while PS5 will look forward to FFXVI which is the first title that should surpass 300K physical on the system without bundles.
They were for an exact reason, stock issues. And it's not like one has to be dead and the other thriving, they can coexist together and I never believed traditional home consoles would go away in Japan, with these charts proving me right. At this point, what we need to see is whether PS5 can sustain this momentum for years to come, because it's selling better than both the PS4 and PS3 in the same timeframe.It's not about being delusional. Trends in Japan for a while now have included more emphasis on mobile, traditionally not liking gigantic physical systems, and not liking a lot of the western games that are huge sellers - including most all of Sony's 1st party output right now. I'm surprised it's selling as well as it is. Nintendo was destroying them for a while.
Does anyone have a total for first party physical copies sold on PS5? I trawled IB but couldnt find it atm. But Famitsu released totals for overall third-party games sold in Japan in calendar year end of 2021 to end of 2022 which shows how tough it is to gauge exactly how well PS5 is doing in Japan.
From Nocturnal@IB
Not disagreeing with you there. The sales are dropping for sure, while I don't believe we'll get an announcement this year, the successor is in the works I have no doubt about that. I was just saying the Switch does not compare to the drop the Wii saw three years into it's life.tkscz It's taking longer to reach the cliff but that cliff IS coming. Once you lose momentum and mindshare in this market it's incredibly hard to get back. MS, Sony and Nintendo ALL know this firsthand
Minecraft is basically just digital LEGO at this point. As long as kids exists so too will Minecraft.Woah, had no idea Minecraft was still selling this much in Japan as of end of 2022.
First it was the hardware, now the two best selling games are PS5 games.
The narratives that some Nintendo fanboys obsessed with japanese sales wanted to believe in are basically collapsing under their feet.