Fake
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Wait, is this game really about that?
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Redfall is launching on Xbox consoles with Quality mode only (4K30FPS) - 60fps to be patched in at some future point
Wait, is this game really about that?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Marketing and track record the past 3 years of overpromising and underdelivering would have a thing to do with that. Especially when you want to Daddy Warbucks the industry. Ask them to do better instead of making excuses.
To be fair, a games technical make up does not represent its quality. That being said, there's no excuse for them waiting till the 11th hour to announce this. My literal first post in the thread is saying that this is a dumb fucking move as well. It's pretty dumb of them to a/ not have a 60 FPS mode for a shooter and b/ not revealing this info earlier.
I agree. But I am understanding that PCs are getting better and better regarding updates and shit. I can't confirm (I am a Mac guy).
digoutyoursoul
Member
I guess the standard output changed.
He has deleted a tweet about frame rates
They don’t fucking learn do they. Talk shite constantly trying to pander to people.
Fresh blood please. New leadership teams, new ideas.
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Topher
Gold Member
The game was already in development with the same narrative before becoming the subsidiary of a two trillion dollar company, still kinda disingenuous if you ask me
Not when it was just a few weeks ago that the director decided to reveal the politics behind it all. There is nothing disingenuous about pointing out an irony that the director so specifically created himself knowing full well who he works for.
That's the analogy behind it, yes.
"The 0.1 percent are already vampires."
Harvey Smith on the politics of Redfall, and how its undead were born from real-life bloodsuckers
Redfall is a silly game about shooting vampires, but also not. Yes, it's about clearing a town of a supernatural nuisan…
www.eurogamer.net
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GHG
Gold Member
There is one website I have to visit for drivers, just once every other month on average.
Everything else you said also applies to consoles. "I just want shit to work" = you must accept whatever the developers give you.
Klayzer
Member
It's as I feared, Gamespass has become self-aware.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I guess the standard output changed.
One deviation does not mean the standard output has changed.
Also are y'all deliberately ignoring the part that the 60 FPS mode will be added in via a post-release patch ?
Sleepwalker
Member
Yes, in the infamous ign video theres a steam achievement unlocked at the end.
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
So many people bitching about nothing.
Here's an idea...
Don't delay the game. Who wants to play the game on 30FPS, play it on release. Who wants to play the game on 60FPS, wait for the patch. Problem solved!
That was tough problem to solve, but I solved it.
Yes, we should totally promote the early release of clearly unfinished games because of the promise that they would fix it later!
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Doesn't really matter. The vampires move at 0fps anyway.
Fuz
Banned
chromhound
Member
digoutyoursoul
Member
One deviation does not mean the standard output has changed.
Also are y'all deliberately ignoring the part that the 60 FPS mode will be added in via a post-release patch ?
No I’m not ignoring it. It was made clear it would be added in a post release patch. After a year delay why isn’t it there at launch?
I mean what the hell is this, they put the price up for content to $70 which lets be honest has fuck all to do with quality and more about enticing more people to gamepass and they can’t have a 60fps mode at launch on a first person shooter on what is supposedly the most powerful console for a game that was already delayed a year?
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DryvBy
Member
It has to do with Series S.
YeulEmeralda
Member
I'm by no means a "graphics whore" but I had hoped 60fps would be the new standard.
I can't see the difference between 60 and 120 but I definitely notice 30fps.
I can't see the difference between 60 and 120 but I definitely notice 30fps.
mansoor1980
Gold Member
i dont believe in any bottlenecks on the XSX for this game , esp with with this being unreal engine 4 and the consoles having....................
-velocity architecture
-hardware based tier 2 VRS
-sustained clock speeds
-VRR (hardware based)
-velocity architecture
-hardware based tier 2 VRS
-sustained clock speeds
-VRR (hardware based)
Forspoken shipped with the modes below & are included in the demo:
2 30fps modes (Quality and Ray-Tracing)
2 40fps modes when 120hz is enabled (Quality and Ray-Tracing)
1 60fps mode (Performance)
systemr123
Banned
At “sometime” in the “future” like Halo infinite “couch coop” that will never see the “light of day”?. It’s not here now and that’s what it should be judged on. And promises be promises, they are not always kept.
One deviation does not mean the standard output has changed.
Also are y'all deliberately ignoring the part that the 60 FPS mode will be added in via a post-release patch ?
Also Aaron:
You do know that the resolution output to the tv is 1080P right?
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kyoji
Member
exactly so im not sure why people are coming up with all these excuses for redfall. pretty funny really.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
So you just perform a service in exchange for goods. That sounds familiar.
Teh Chosen Juan
Member
jm89
Member
-full rdna2 not rdna 1.5
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
One of those games has untethered 4 player co-op, the other is single player with a mostly barren world.
But the point the user who brought up FS first was not comparing technical aspects, rather that the channel is someone who posts very heavy fanboy themed videos.
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ChorizoPicozo
Banned
he said the previews (PC) were running at 1080 60 medium to high setting. performance was not smooth.
GHG
Gold Member
I think he was given access to a preview build, which is hilarious in itself.
He shouldn't be priviy to that kind of information while legitimate journalists who aren't afraid to criticise them are left in the dark.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
He only saw the game running on 'medium spec' PC builds according to himself, he hasn't seen the game running on consoles at all.
I saw the video he put out (don't start), and he said he only saw the PC version of the game in the preview event that happened in March.
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Slicker than your average
Banned
I refuse to play FPS games at 30fps.
GHG
Gold Member
So why the hell is he blabbing on about what the consoles can and can't hold in terms of performance? Man's a fraud.
Rocco Schiavone
Member
Playing a shooter at 30fps??
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Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
Music. To. My. Fucking. Ears
Bring on the next gen fidelity.
True next gen games will run at 30fps.
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Banjo64
cumsessed
Laughable for an FPS. Laughable defensive posts in this thread.
adamsapple
, what happened to you bro? You used to post funny memes, now I can’t even hear you speak because your tongue is up Colt Eastwood’s bum hole. At least the Phil worship is funny.
adamsapple
, what happened to you bro? You used to post funny memes, now I can’t even hear you speak because your tongue is up Colt Eastwood’s bum hole. At least the Phil worship is funny.
LegendOfKage
Gold Member
Just delay the game, then! It's funny to see 60fps is trending now on twitter: https://twitter.com/search?q=60fps&src=trend_click&vertical=trends
Fredrik
Member
Ah so he don’t know anything as I assumed. They better not mess up the PC version too though, could be a historical flop, Cyberpunk at least had the relatively impressive PC version to fall back on when everybody on console were laughing at it.
A delay is still the best way forward here. They need to listen to the talk. This isn’t even the usual console war negativity, this is just as much Xbox gamers being negative, including Colt which is usually a total shill.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Laughable for an FPS. Laughable defensive posts in this thread.
I said I only watched it explicitly for the redfall thing lol, I don't have him on any social feeds nor do I want to.
According to the same video (GHG don't) he said he saw some of the previewers go into the game settings to lower them to get better performance as the default setups they had were not exactly running at a smooth performance on PCs.
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Music. To. My. Fucking. Ears
Bring on the next gen fidelity.
True next gen games will run at 30fps.
What's wrong with you?
Fredrik
Member
On mid spec PCs? What’s that, i5 and 2070?
Either way I don’t understand what happened here. Is it UE4 or UE5? Shader struggle related? Data streaming related? VRAM bound? Why is it struggling? DF needs to visit Arkane and have a serious talk.
Hugare
Member
When, tho?
One deviation does not mean the standard output has changed.
Also are y'all deliberately ignoring the part that the 60 FPS mode will be added in via a post-release patch ?
"Gimme your money first and we will give you a better product ... eventually"
Finish the game first, than launch it
ChorizoPicozo
Banned
As anticipated this has become a shitshow (not only here, but in social media bubble)
And i haven't seen any discussion about what I FEEL could be the root of the problem:
Unreal Engine.
not because is a bad engine, but because if you want to really squeeze all its performance you need to have really geniuses at your studio (Sofware/Graphics engineers/Anime Programmers).
this is why is so important to have proprietary engines fine-tune to make the most for a specific hardware.
And i haven't seen any discussion about what I FEEL could be the root of the problem:
Unreal Engine.
not because is a bad engine, but because if you want to really squeeze all its performance you need to have really geniuses at your studio (Sofware/Graphics engineers/Anime Programmers).
this is why is so important to have proprietary engines fine-tune to make the most for a specific hardware.
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
I want real next gen games. Perfectly fine with 30fps.
Give me next gen destruction, physics, etc over framerate any day of the week.
We have a better chance at getting that at 30fps.
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Topher
Gold Member
And yet all you are really going to get is more pixels.
Phase
Member
You made me think about what games I like that they've made, and there are only 4 - Arx Fatalis, Dark Messiah of Might and Magic, Dishonored 1, and the new Prey. Two of those are very old, and two are just old. They haven't made anything I've liked in 7 yrs.
balls of snow
Member
Eh Im from SEA, if ever there was a representation of my race, I would rather it be the attractive kind. Also have bit of pakistani blood in me so yeah, heil the german guy I guess.
Vblad88
Member
Not sure about sense of all this fuzz. I mean everybody knows that PCs are superior to consoles, and average console gamers are no FPS freaks as vocal minority try to convince the community. Plus, console features are mainly tailored towards compatibility with TV technology, where 4K resolution is far more widespread than high framerate video. That is a simple reality check. Plus the fact that is not good for either console/pc business to provide 100% fluid and crisp gaming performance with high end graphics, because in a short while they would have nothing in pipeline.
Want to have 60 fps ultra - buy a capable PC, or stick to what console version give you. It was always this way, why everybody acting like Redfall is outlier all of the sudden?
Want to have 60 fps ultra - buy a capable PC, or stick to what console version give you. It was always this way, why everybody acting like Redfall is outlier all of the sudden?